Transformers Mafia - Dinobots STRONGEST!

[MariaR]

Fire changed back to his top tier avi thank goodness

[MariaR]

My scum game is trash tier tbh
Pedit: It'd be weird if they didn't spiffy.

[MariaR]

Anyway.
VOTE: Rb

[MariaR]

She's actually definitely not trash tier lmao

I'd set her as one of the highest investigating value players in the list

huhhhh? My play as scum is bad how dare you say otherwise!

i'd investigate mariar any day tbh

Booo you're no fun~

[MariaR]

this game my plan is to just pocket mariar and the rest will be cake i think
you guys are terrible and mariar will protect me.

FIRE BABY WHO'S TRYING TO HURT YOU I'LL FIGHT EM

[MariaR]

MariaR's avi is one of my mains in BBTAG, instant townlock kappa.

He

is

my main <3

[MariaR]

VOTE: Firebringer
Anyway

[MariaR]

Oh we vote for who we want to win?
VOTE: Kat

[MariaR]

or maria

we could kill both of them and basically get 2 lynches

unfortunate that the targets aren't necessarily optimal but it's better to get 2 lynches than 1.

I have no reason to lynch Kat.

[MariaR]

RC and Rb's play around this is really scummy to me

[MariaR]

I want to ask why are you killing yourself? You should vote to down kat if you are town you are undervaluing yourself.

I don't want to be in this game with RC on day 2.

Thats why I want Neither.

If you're anything but scum this is kinda sad and a game throw

[MariaR]

It's a game throw because instead of /outing when fire saw rc in or ask the mod or replace out right away he legit came in and just gave up his spot.

So yeah I'm lynching fire 100 cause if he's anything but scum isn't kinda gross

[MariaR]

Sure thing gamer thrower

[MariaR]

Sure thing gamer thrower

What are you trying to accomplish here?

Does it bother you when I say my opinion?

[MariaR]

I'm not trying to be rude. I'm stating my opinion on a matter. I like fire but I think his actions are game throwing and I only think he'd do that as scum to make it not game throwing. I'm not trying to be rude at all
Pedit: NAI

[MariaR]

Sure thing I won't bring it up again I wasn't trying to offend you sorry. My opinion stays the same

[MariaR]

We can talk about this post game

[MariaR]

if one of them is scum

then maybe it's optimal to save the town but not really required, 1 for 1 is fine

or even worse we could save the town in the pair instead of the scum statistically 50% of the time which is no bueno at all

if they're both scum which I don't see as literally impossible, it massively behooves us to lynch them both today

the ends some people seem to be playing to are strange.

and frankly we do get information from both flipping town, we get to look through peoples reactions and try to decipher which are scum reactions to a fucking field day for them.

Post's like this is why I feel RC is scum

[MariaR]

Firebringer is pretty obviously town here, there's no reason to duel so early as scum when it's only gonna piss people off

I don't think he's game throwing in either instance, but Maria's explanation for wanting him dead because "if he were town he'd be game throwing" is the exact opposite of how I feel?

If he's scum he brings unneeded attention to himself and ensures that he only has a 33% chance of surviving the day, whereas if he's town it's still stupid and annoying, but at yields some interesting reactions to get reads from.

Maria are you scum reading FB for reasons other than "if he were town he'd be game throwing"?

You see I would agree with you...but it's firebringer so I don't agree with your post. No I'm not for the most part but I feel fire should die regardless since he says he wants out of this game etc and if he's gonna just duel for the lols and take up more of our days than I want him dead no matter how "obv town" you think he might be.

[MariaR]

are you going to quick duel if you live to tomorrow?

probably not.

Doubt that knowing you puppo

[MariaR]

VOTE: UnrealSeal

You bastard! I wanted to be first!

Hey everyponye
Hello everypony!!!!!

Excited to play with you all!

VOTE: gammagooey

Scummy.

Hi I claim miller

Our second sacrifice!

VOTE: Creature

Scummy

Found my duel target

[MariaR]

I'm not trying to towntell tho

then you shouldn't be shocked I'm scumreading you

are you having fun inteiotnally antagonizing me here firebringer

because fuck you

Kat is town btw
Pedit: CRAWLINGGGG IN MY SKINNNNNN

[MariaR]

Kat making fake posts is NAI I said this before and they did it in my game and a fakegod game both of Kat was town. I'm not saying it can't come from scum but thinking "Kat made a fake post so it's scum." Would be wrong

[MariaR]

RC I would honestly duel you if I didn't think you'd try to ate yourself into a win against me tomorrow so I'm picking an easier target

[MariaR]

Kat making fake posts is NAI I said this before and they did it in my game and a fakegod game both of Kat was town. I'm not saying it can't come from scum but thinking "Kat made a fake post so it's scum." Would be wrong

okay but the posts i think are genuine Kat is also scummy, can you explain how anything kats is doing is townie?

I think the fact his posting is not really doing him any favors for the most part and he's still doing it is somewhat towny

[MariaR]

Diaf maria

Strange your posting on the other page says otherwise.

[MariaR]

I think the fact his posting is not really doing him any favors for the most part and he's still doing it is somewhat towny

that doesn't mean anything?

It kinda does.

[MariaR]

It would mean a lot of Kat had a lot of associates with his scum partners that would make them towny but he doesn't. He's posting in 1 style and it isn't changing. If he was scum you'd think he tries to appeal to the masses a bit more to get himself saved. To put it in more dumb terms he's not being survivalistic
Pedit: ARE YOU JOKING

[MariaR]

I feel like you're just making excuses to not vote Kats. They haven't done anything to warrant death people like RC and RB are just saying he should die for the sake of "dealing with them now because they could be scum" (worst logic I've ever seen btw)

[MariaR]

that was at fire

[MariaR]

What should I be rethinking.

[MariaR]

Aren't I scum fire? I should have an agenda so this shouldn't be a big deal.

[MariaR]

I feel like you're just making excuses to not vote Kats. They haven't done anything to warrant death people like RC and RB are just saying he should die for the sake of "dealing with them now because they could be scum" (worst logic I've ever seen btw)

this post where you tell me I am making excuses to not vote Kats when I have given through reasons for not townreading kats yet, and self voting would be considered more "gamethrowey" than just voting for both of us to die, by your own standards.

How does that make sense in Maria land?

You're the one who's said you'd vote Kats not me if you want to keep going down the path I'm not gonna stop you from helping me with my goal. I don't know

why

you'd vote Kats but you're the one who said you would. Not that I think you really will and you just said it for town cred and are not looking for an excuse to not do so. If you never said you'd vote kats I'd have no issue but !town you has 0 reason to do so unless certain reasons I won't go into
Pedit: Kat don't get me STARTED IK

[MariaR]

ow about going through those reasons, I have said them and I told you I don't agree with any of your analysis of Katsuki playstyle nor how any of what he has done is townie. Your answer is "it is!"

You disagree with my answer as scum you're obv gonna disagree and if you're town you just disagree it's a waste of time to keep talking about it.

And now I have to wonder, why are you selectively taking my word for things. You said five posts ago I was going to just constantly throw around duels when I said I probably wasn't gonna do that. You are being selective of what you say is my word and not.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I did quote something of yours and said I doubt you what's so wrong with that. Why don't you explain why I'm scum instead of avoiding it hm? No one is gonna listen to your reads when you die unless you explain them or did you just want to get out of this game so you're just saying w/e sounds good

MariaR gets duelled by me tomorrow if both flips are town btw

First of all you're not gonna do this anyway
Second of all you'd lose

Anyway I'm gonna go now and stop clogging the thread so others can post talking to 2 people who are more than likely scum than not is like talking to a wall because you're not gonna make progress and whew is that annoying.

[MariaR]

You finally starting arguing took you 29 pages to get it out of you.

[MariaR]

Of course fire I finally got you talking it only took 29 pages I won't stop after all the stupidly long work that took.

1) The posts directed at me is almost devoid of attempts to read me. I can tell when you are trying to get a read on me and when you aren't. You are definitely not trying at all. Want to argue that?

I dismissed you after you game threw out of respect thinking you had to be scum because town you wouldn't do something that shitty yes I can say that. i don't get your reasons I think it's game throwing I can't even go into full detail because you asked me not too and I don't want to upset you so I won't. On the off chance your town I wanted to get stuff out of you and coax you into doing something instead of just sitting and dying because you didn't want to be in a game with a player. Because honestly we weren't gonna have a lot to go off of regardless of the flip so I thought I'd make you give us some. If you're scum that works even better if you're town at least you're debating.

2) Your posts at me showed what seemed like an attempt to start a AtE fight. And my initial thought was "Hey mariar is doing that thing where she manipulates my emotions to get me to townread her".

Ate fight? Mmmm no. I wanted you to do something yes I did try to manipulate you to try and argue but I wanted you to argue with your reads, not your emotions. I didn't know I was offending you at all and that was never my goal. I was really confused why people asked me to play nice when I didn't think I did anything wrong. I wasn't trying to get you to tr me If I'm scum I don't need ate to get people to tr me. You should know I use manipulation as town and scum to suit my agenda or perhaps you don't.

3) Your logic isn't consistent enough even from your perspective. Go back and look at that reply about "your just giving excuses not to vote yourself" how does that make sense in mariar world if you think I am scum? Why not just say "Hey you posted that thing about voting yourself as a way to get townread" instead of say "your giving excuses not vote yourself". Either could be true but the one that had flow was not what you gave.

I did say that I said that you're just ignoring my reasons why Kat is town for a reason to not vote him you're giving the illusion that you can be convinced to vote Kat if you're shown he's town but in reality you're never gonna vote Kat that's why I found it scummy. So I don't know what you think I haven't been saying.

[MariaR]

You said that AFTER i questioned on if you wanted to rethink it. You didn't express that originally. So either A) you miscommunicated your original point or B) backpedaled into something that made more sense.
I thought B. And this still doesn't explain thoughts before hand that I can apply this same reasoning on how your thinking makes sense in maria world.

What's the original post in question?

Okay several things. You don't manipulate people i nthe same ways as both town and scum. So going to strike that down here.

aka "I have no way to counter this post she made so I'm just gonna put a bland reason so I can dismiss it."

You didn't even address me before that point. At all.
You voted Katsuki to win and said "I have no reason to lynch Katsuki" as though you gave me a thought on reading me and decided a person you had zero reason was better than me.

You got to explain the logic in between here,

Stop going for a low blow you know why I can't explain my logic here

[MariaR]

and now I bow out.

[MariaR]

Rc and fire can't read me for shit

[MariaR]

Don't pick me or you lose period that isn't me being cocky you just outright lose. So if you're gonna try and chain lynch avoid me

[MariaR]

I need to read seals posts I'm playing bbtag atm though.

[MariaR]

We have (expired on 2018-07-22 15:17:14) to decide, as a group, who I’m dueling.

Make it 1 day imo so people can check in

[MariaR]

@Theworst

If you thought you were mafia traitor 1) How
2) Who were your partners

[MariaR]

VOTE: Antihero
I can join this

[MariaR]

VOTE: Neither

[MariaR]

Instead of asking why just vote neither and move on

[MariaR]

@mariar, where do you stand regarding garmr at the moment and why?

Pretty strong tr I like his posting and I can see his thoughts a buddy of mine like just read his tone and thought should be obv imo

[MariaR]

I'm so glad we dueled so half the people not posting who are prob scum can just keep lurking like it's nothing.
Like Duel is one of the most anti town mechs in the game. Don't pull a firebringer and keep using it

[MariaR]

Prof fueling fire from the sidelines is scummy and needs to die.

[MariaR]

I also assumed multiball tbh

[MariaR]

Keeping my vote on neither for obv reason meh what a weak catch up

[MariaR]

I'm not voting neither because of multiball. I'm voting neither because I don't townread either player. Multiball has nothing to do with my vote
I assumed scum submit a day action for a kill and it happened after the flip.

[MariaR]

I literally thought I was a mafia traitor until last night sooooo anyone who's townreading me probably needs to do a quick hard reset

I was honestly scumreading you so it makes sense tbh

[MariaR]

for some reason I believe him unconditionally

Honestly same

[MariaR]

VOTE: Anti

[MariaR]

when anti flips town I'm power killing pork then the people on his wagon

[MariaR]

You'll lose.