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Bulletnlynchproof 13p pre-designed setup

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:04 am
by implosion
nsg is here to review
rc is here to add sass
In post 42, BNL wrote:On the other hand I don't want a Night 1 acting vig which could bring a lot of swing onto town
Which leaves us at:

2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 2+ Vig
1 Town JOAT {Commuter, Roleblocker, Doctor}
6 Vanilla Townie

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:18 am
by northsidegal
looks decent enough, would pass if you made the cult recruiter lynchproof

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:53 am
by RadiantCowbells
Umm sorry just to add a few things here that you may or may not know as an inexperienced normal reviewer

1) Flavor is not allowed. Only mafia/werewolf flavor. Therefore a 'cult' is not allowed to be used in normal games.

2) Recruiters constitute unpredictable alignment shifts which are not only non-normal but are the realm of bastard modding. They have no place in mafiascum.org s normal games.

3) Lynch-proof is not an allowed modifier especially on a scum role.

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:59 am
by northsidegal
i dont take orders from lowly secondary reviewers

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:02 am
by implosion
cult is mandatory now silly seal

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:04 am
by northsidegal
i think we missed an april fools opportunity with adding cults to normal games and such honestly

(was there even an april fools joke this year? zor said there was but i have no idea what)

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:16 pm
by BNL
2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
7 Vanilla Townie

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:17 pm
by RadiantCowbells
seems very hard for town.

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:58 pm
by BNL
How about night 2+ vig

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:32 am
by RadiantCowbells
how about i give you the finger

.|.

and you give me my phone call?

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:48 am
by northsidegal
i think night 2+ is moving in the right direction. are you going for deliberate negative utility with the psychologist / delayed vig interaction?

i think scum being informed of the entire setup is a tenable idea, but i guess i'm not sure if this setup is enough for town.

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:27 pm
by RadiantCowbells
second the assertion that scum could use more POWER

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:27 pm
by RadiantCowbells
and by scum i mean town

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:55 pm
by BNL
2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
1 Town Simple Doctor
6 Vanilla Townie

Better?

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:27 pm
by BNL
Bump
If still too scumsided I’ll inform the Mafia about the Psychologist or Watcher only.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:18 pm
by RadiantCowbells
your mom

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:16 pm
by BNL
northsidegal?

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:20 pm
by RadiantCowbells
she's your mom?

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:40 pm
by BNL
Implo said she siteflaked

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:31 pm
by northsidegal
its been all of three days but i guess thats still accurate, sorry about that. i think the addition of the doc is maybe actually a bit too much, interested in rcs thoughts

i dont want to be too overbearing in the design of your setup but i think a better direction to go in would be something that interacts in some unique way with the fact that scum are informed

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:01 pm
by BNL
Is the simple doctor really that powerful?

FWIW the idea of the setup was the Watcher + Psychologist + Scum informed about them. I just put "scum informed about everything" to make it simpler.

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:26 pm
by BNL
2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Simple Doctor
7 Vanilla Townie

How's this then? It may be too weak now, but I hadn't liked the vigilante in the setup; while I initially used it as a psychologist guilty, I felt like the setup didn't warrant one.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 4:10 am
by BNL
Actually
How about change the simple doctor to a simple babysitter?

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 9:17 am
by RadiantCowbells
it's really easy for scum to play optimally around the watcher and psychologist when they're informed about them.

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 4:02 pm
by BNL
In post 13, BNL wrote:2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
1 Town Simple Doctor
6 Vanilla Townie

Better?
Would you call this balanced then?