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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:16 am

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I've been waiting 11 hours to do this:
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Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:16 am

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I love RVS
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Post Post #7 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:19 am

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It's something I've always wanted to do as thee first post of a game but never done before
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Post Post #8 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:22 am

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How does one quote from past newbie games?
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Post Post #10 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:53 am

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does one vote class as a wagon?
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Post Post #17 (isolation #5) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:01 pm

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In post 13, skitter30 wrote:oh dear

is that like .... a serious post ? are you usually so over the top ... ?

pedit @hectic
You're in for a wild ride

UNVOTE:

I don't like being on L-1 on the first page
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Post Post #18 (isolation #6) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:02 pm

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In post 11, Hectic wrote:
In post 7, Elements wrote:It's something I've always wanted to do as thee first post of a game but never done before
So you decide to enter the game with a self-vote, eh? We just had to roll one of these jokers in our game, didn't we? You're either brain dead or you're scum. I sincerely hope for your own sake that you're the latter.

Let me tell you something, clown: Mafia doesn't work if people want to banter or joke around like it's a barbeque. Excessive joking around makes it really difficult to differentiate jokey behaviour from scummy behaviour, and allows people with memey backgrounds to build smoke screens for themselves for when they do roll scum. Your self-vote falls perfectly into that category, and I would be VERY surprised if I didn't see similar disgusting behaviour if I went looking through your past games.

Thing about this one self-vote of yours in particular though, is that it is INEHERENTLY scum-indicative. Town has no time to fuck around, every town member comes in with a subconscious mentality - whether they like it or not - of wanting to lynch scum and therefore win the game as town. Town NEVER self-vote, it doesn't make any sense to progress their win condition, does it? Scum come in with the mentality of wanting to MANIPULATE the town and lynch anyone, as long as it's not them or their scummy buddies. In this case, a self-vote causes confusion and can be perceived to lesser town players as a funny vote by a simple townie who's just joking around, or fishing for reads. WRONG, fortunately for us, I'm not an idiot. Show me a game, just ONE game where you've come into a game and self-voted as town. Oh wait, I don't need to wait, because I know there's no fucking chance you have.

In fact, you should know something about me; I take mafia VERY fucking seriously. And if I see some chickeneater like you go around self-voting like you're doing us all some favour, and helping progress the game, you are so so wrong.

Ironically though, you are doing us a favour; you're claiming scum. And you've just made this game 100 times easier for us. But I'm not going to thank you for that. In fact, I want you to feel REAL bad about it. Think about your idiotic actions and really drown yourself in misery for a few days. Ask yourself "why oh why would I ever commit to such an idiotic strat as scum, did I really think all the others players would be imbeciles?" Really contemplate your actions, especially that previous point, and you may just realise the error of your ways, and maybe, just maybe, you can return to this site a better man, and a better player.

Let's get this over with:

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This is the funniest post I've ever read.
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Post Post #24 (isolation #7) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:05 pm

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In post 20, skitter30 wrote:elements have you played with hectic before? does he usually post like that ?
If you look up memeing on the mafiascum wiki you get redirected to Hectic's profile
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Post Post #25 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:06 pm

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I like roster
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Post Post #28 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:08 pm

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I'm assuming day as in irl day
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Post Post #32 (isolation #10) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:11 pm

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I thought aaron was scum from looking at the player list. Now his avatar and signature have confirmed this.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #11) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:11 pm

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In post 30, skitter30 wrote:actually i think he's saying he comes from a site that uses plurality voting and he forgot about the hammering thing, if i'm reading that right
What is plurality voting?
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Post Post #39 (isolation #12) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:14 pm

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In post 36, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 32, Elements wrote:I thought aaron was scum from looking at the player list. Now his avatar and signature have confirmed this.
VOTE: ArronFrost
At least spell my name right dude
I'm so sorry!
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Post Post #40 (isolation #13) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:15 pm

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In post 37, skitter30 wrote:some varient of 'person with most votes at deadline gets lynched'

i.e. as opposed to 'person who hits the lynch threshhold before deadline first gets lynched'
In post 38, ReaperOfSouls wrote:
In post 34, Elements wrote:
In post 30, skitter30 wrote:actually i think he's saying he comes from a site that uses plurality voting and he forgot about the hammering thing, if i'm reading that right
What is plurality voting?
Someone gets got at the EoD. One with highest votes.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #14) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:06 pm

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In post 47, Tchill13 wrote:Reaper was the first player to unvote other than the self voter.
I have a name you know.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #15) » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:07 pm

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Pagetop!
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Post Post #65 (isolation #16) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:20 am

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We should probably start another wagon. Reaper or Hectic?
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Post Post #66 (isolation #17) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:35 am

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I keep looking at Saladman's avatar and seeing Star-Burns
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Post Post #70 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:31 am

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In post 67, Hectic wrote:
In post 13, skitter30 wrote:oh dear

is that like .... a serious post ? are you usually so over the top ... ?

pedit @hectic
I have received an out of game bribe and will be dropping the case on the self-voter, Elements, effective immediately. (no)
This post isn't nearly long enough.
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Post Post #73 (isolation #19) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:32 am

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In post 72, skitter30 wrote:Elements i feel like ur searching for a wagon
In post 65, Elements wrote:We should probably start another wagon. Reaper or Hectic?
I don't know where you got that idea from
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Post Post #76 (isolation #20) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:42 am

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VOTE: reaper
How do you like being on L-1?
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Post Post #78 (isolation #21) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:51 am

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Hectic, you have a day chat. You don't need to signal to you scum buddies via capitalised words in your posts.
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Post Post #80 (isolation #22) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:03 am

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Hectic, will you marry me?
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Post Post #82 (isolation #23) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:31 am

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In post 81, Hectic wrote:Elements has DEEP pockets.
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Post Post #89 (isolation #24) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:40 am

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In post 88, ReaperOfSouls wrote:
In post 76, Elements wrote:VOTE: reaper
How do you like being on L-1?
Doesn't phase me one way or the other. How is it I am supposed to feel?
So my vote yo put you on L-1 hasn't changed your opinion or view on anything at all?
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Post Post #92 (isolation #25) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:22 am

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In post 90, ReaperOfSouls wrote:It makes me wonder if you are just looking for quick end to the day phase so that the full use of the time isn't maximized.
The only player I can imagine hammering at this point is DEB and he's not in this game. If someone was to hammer and end the day now I think it would be all but a scum claim. So in that sense it would be very good to end the day so quickly. I'm guessing is 2v7 so that would instantly give us half the scum team day 2.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #26) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:27 am

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In post 92, Elements wrote: The only player I can imagine hammering at this point is DEB and he's not in this game.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #27) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:40 am

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In post 95, ReaperOfSouls wrote:
In post 92, Elements wrote:
In post 90, ReaperOfSouls wrote:It makes me wonder if you are just looking for quick end to the day phase so that the full use of the time isn't maximized.
The only player I can imagine hammering at this point is DEB and he's not in this game. If someone was to hammer and end the day now I think it would be all but a scum claim. So in that sense it would be very good to end the day so quickly. I'm guessing is 2v7 so that would instantly give us half the scum team day 2.
That would constitute site meta which I don't have. I played a few games here late last year early this.
Which bit is site meta?
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Post Post #98 (isolation #28) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:53 am

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In post 97, ReaperOfSouls wrote:Naming of the player.
It is, but he's not in this game so it doesn't matter.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #29) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:17 am

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we've finally reached the wine!
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Post Post #104 (isolation #30) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:27 am

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In post 103, AaronFrost wrote:I'll place my vote on someone who I think has a decent chance of being scum

VOTE: Azuresky
Why do you think they have a decent chance of being scum?
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Post Post #106 (isolation #31) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:27 am

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Or was that RVS still?
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Post Post #108 (isolation #32) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:29 am

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Yea , I just ISO'd azuresky I think my vote is better on them.
VOTE: Azuresky
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Post Post #111 (isolation #33) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:39 am

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I'm liking Aaron, Skitter, and Hectic
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Post Post #116 (isolation #34) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:18 am

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In post 115, Hectic wrote:
In post 108, Elements wrote:Yea , I just ISO'd azuresky I think my vote is better on them.
VOTE: Azuresky
And? What'd you find?
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Post Post #117 (isolation #35) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:19 am

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In post 112, Azuresky wrote:
Elements wrote:I'm liking Aaron, Skitter, and Hectic
So Aaron is voting me in defense of reaper.
Skitter stated hes not a fan of the reaper wagon.
Hectic is voting reaper, but he is your butt-buddy this game.
What is the point of this?
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Post Post #121 (isolation #36) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:03 pm

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In post 120, Hectic wrote:Why is that scum-indicative, my self-voter friend?
I don't think it's necessarily scum indicative, but indicates an apathy I don't like so I wanted to move my vote to get them to interact more and contribute.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #37) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:09 pm

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In post 122, AaronFrost wrote:Elements why are you sheeping me?
I think you're town. I like your reasoning behind the vote and your assessment of reaper and hectic.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #38) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:30 pm

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In post 124, NotMySpamAccount wrote:In all seriousness though, Reaper is playing really scummy.
Could you elaborate?
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Post Post #131 (isolation #39) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:32 pm

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In post 130, Tchill13 wrote:So far 3 ppl have thrown shade at me without acting on it.
Which three?
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Post Post #137 (isolation #40) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 134, Azuresky wrote: Literally one line after the quote:
I was hoping for a link, but I dont think I'm getting one yet.
I still don't understand
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Post Post #138 (isolation #41) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:11 pm

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In post 135, Azuresky wrote:I don't think Elements had a real reason of voting me (per 108 and 116) and just copied Aarons reasoning (Bolded in 110 and 121)
My reasoning is Aaron's reasoning. I agree with him. After I spelt his name wrong I wanted to change my vote and he gave a reasonable argument for voting you so I checked your ISO and agreed with him. I have effectively said I'm sheeping him on this so I don't see why it's such a big problem to you.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #42) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:06 pm

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In post 141, Azuresky wrote:1. In your words, what was bad about my iso?
This is a ridiculous question. I just said I think the same things are bad about it as Aaron said.
2. Just because you say youre sheeping him doesn't mean its ok. I don't believe you scumread me, I believe you are just voting me because I'm the best lynch at this time.
Yes. I haven't said I'm scum reading you just that you are the best place for my vote. Glad we agree.
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Post Post #147 (isolation #43) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:32 pm

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In post 146, Azuresky wrote:You suck at fake scumhunting, bro
Give me an example of me fake scum hunting
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Post Post #149 (isolation #44) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:00 pm

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In post 148, Azuresky wrote:This game?
Is that a "My example is this game" or a "Do you want me to do it for this game"?
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Post Post #151 (isolation #45) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:07 pm

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Any posts in particular?
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Post Post #153 (isolation #46) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:32 pm

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I'm struggling to see the problem here. I sheeped Aaron and voted Azure because I agree with his reasoning.
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Post Post #154 (isolation #47) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:32 pm

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Seems pretty simple to me.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #48) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:37 pm

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In post 156, Azuresky wrote:
What did you see in my ISO that screams scum? Or are you just blindly following aaron?
At no point have I said I think you are scum.
In post 155, Azuresky wrote:That means I believe you know who is scum and who is town.
That means your reads will be manufactured because you KNOW who is town and who is scum.
Ah, I missed this part in your logic. Now it makes sense.
In post 161, skitter30 wrote:elements are you usually this antagonistic?
Good question. My game style has changed a lot I think in my last few games. I haven't claimed SK yet so Hectic will be relieved.

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In post 162, skitter30 wrote:
In post 105, skitter30 wrote:
In post 73, Elements wrote:
In post 72, skitter30 wrote:Elements i feel like ur searching for a wagon
In post 65, Elements wrote:We should probably start another wagon. Reaper or Hectic?
I don't know where you got that idea from
Y are u doing this tho ?
also did u answer this ?
Because I'm a sarcastic person.


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Post Post #171 (isolation #49) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:33 am

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In post 170, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 168, Elements wrote:
In post 156, Azuresky wrote:
What did you see in my ISO that screams scum? Or are you just blindly following aaron?
At no point have I said I think you are scum.
Then why are you voting for her?
I'm not town reading her.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #50) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:42 am

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Why?
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Post Post #180 (isolation #51) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:15 am

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In post 172, skitter30 wrote:
In post 164, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 161, skitter30 wrote:elements are you usually this antagonistic?
I feel like this is just his style. Probably bumps heads with a lot of people. He's also made it abundantly clear he's OK with an azure lynch this early.
I'm asking cuz the last time i played with (town!)him he felt very different and much more chilled out and less like actively going after things
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #181 (isolation #52) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:16 am

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Idk why there was a quote with that
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Post Post #183 (isolation #53) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:01 am

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In post 182, Azuresky wrote:Die.
:3
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Post Post #184 (isolation #54) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:07 am

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In post 177, skitter30 wrote:Idk, it looks like u put a quote in a quote and screwed up the the quote tags, so when i quoted it something funky happened
I would definitely have replied with this, but my why was pertaining to the post about disliking the whole of my post.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #55) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:10 am

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In post 172, skitter30 wrote:
In post 164, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 161, skitter30 wrote:elements are you usually this antagonistic?
I feel like this is just his style. Probably bumps heads with a lot of people. He's also made it abundantly clear he's OK with an azure lynch this early.
I'm asking cuz the last time i played with (town!)him he felt very different and much more chilled out and less like actively going after things
My play have changed drastically since we last played. I did my newbies of here then took a break from forum mafia for about 6? Months. Now I've returned with a different way of playing.
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Post Post #188 (isolation #56) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:04 am

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In post 186, skitter30 wrote:
In post 184, Elements wrote:
In post 177, skitter30 wrote:Idk, it looks like u put a quote in a quote and screwed up the the quote tags, so when i quoted it something funky happened
I would definitely have replied with this, but my why was pertaining to the post about disliking the whole of my post.
I know, i was making a point - this is exactly how you're responding to questions and it's:

A) annoying
B) really hard to get straight answers out of you

That's why i didnt like that post

Also i was thinking of ep's search mafia, i'm not sure if i've played other games with u
The search, as you'll agree was not a stereotypical game. My only scum game is the themed undertale can't by popsofctown if you want to check that out. I'd link it but I'm on my phone.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #57) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:05 am

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In post 187, Tchill13 wrote:Now did elements remove his vote because skitter started leaning scum on him? Or was it something else?
I unvoted to prevent roster from lolhammering
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Post Post #192 (isolation #58) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:17 am

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In post 191, Azuresky wrote:
In post 178, rosterfoster wrote:I would be funny if I hammered...
In post 179, rosterfoster wrote:But I don’t really get the scum case.
Elements what about this screams “lolhammer?”
"Wouldn't it be funny"
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Post Post #193 (isolation #59) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:17 am

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Maybe the lol was misplaced. Either way it was to prevent him from hammering.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #60) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:29 am

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In post 196, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 189, Elements wrote:
In post 187, Tchill13 wrote:Now did elements remove his vote because skitter started leaning scum on him? Or was it something else?
I unvoted to prevent roster from lolhammering
So why didn't you unvote when I put azure at L-1 to prevent ANYONE from LOL hammering?
I didn't think anyone would. Then roster posted and things changed.
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Post Post #200 (isolation #61) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:29 am

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In post 198, Tchill13 wrote:Elements vs azure isn't worth.
Agreed
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Post Post #215 (isolation #62) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:12 pm

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In post 207, skitter30 wrote:
In post 188, Elements wrote:The search, as you'll agree was not a stereotypical game. My only scum game is the themed undertale can't by popsofctown if you want to check that out. I'd link it but I'm on my phone.
i know but it's the only game that i have a reference for that i was in so
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Post Post #234 (isolation #63) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:59 pm

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In post 60, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: reaper

I actually agree with you. I voted elements to see what NotMySpam would do but I'm more interested in pushing reaper tbh.
In post 63, Tchill13 wrote:Means you didn't really mean it when you put him at L-1. Had someone LOL lynched you would have been fine with it but now that you have an opportunity to show you care about the lynch you're making sure other people notice.
In post 99, Tchill13 wrote:I've actually never seen someone claim they didn't know it was majority lynch. What weak reasoning... It's too weak.
In post 100, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: NotMySpamAccount
I believe reaper for now. Besides that's a terrible argument to make as scum to try and save yourself d1. Surely scum would come up with something better.
99 and 100 don't fit with the reasoning of 63. Tchill starts but not believing, what is a very reasonable excuse and one which lines up what happened post-wise, and using that to place a vote on reaper. Next thing tchill is using the literal definition of WIFOM to town read reaper for the post that tchill was scumreading him for in the first place.
In post 166, Tchill13 wrote:2 wagons at L-1 before page 8. Doesn't surprise me that neither has went through, I highly doubt this one does. Other than frost azure can't pinpoint a reason for any vote. Can't really look too much into RVS votes imo, I mean I don't think either wagon has had good reason tbh because reapers and azures blew up for little to no reason.
Tchill saying they had no reason to vote azure.

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Post Post #235 (isolation #64) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:00 am

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In post 233, Azuresky wrote:Nope, its enough of the dumbtell that I'm giving reaper another day to live. Your (scum?)buddy Elements is dying today. Your meta defense of the dude isn't helping.
Stop trying to control the day. It's not going to happen.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #65) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:43 am

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I'm erring on the side of a reaper/Tchill team now
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Post Post #240 (isolation #66) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:02 am

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In post 239, Azuresky wrote:Lol if thats all Elements has to say, Im fine with my vote.
Why do you think I'm scum again?
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Post Post #242 (isolation #67) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:20 am

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I repeat the question
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Post Post #244 (isolation #68) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:53 am

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I repeat the question

Ikr
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Post Post #246 (isolation #69) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:05 am

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To get the full context you should look at the rules from the game. The TL DR of them are - instead of lynching you can choose spare a player instead and send them to the "shadow realm" if no players are lynched you continue to a lylo point if only one scum is spared, insta win if all are town, insta lose if both scum are spared.
At the start of the game people started town reading me - which is quite unusual for me case in point this game - so I played safely. Pushing for the route that was most town sided and generally going along with the consensus view hoping I would be spared into the lylo or spared with my partner.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #70) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:38 am

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I'll join you on that
VOTE: Reaper('s replacement)
Let them arrive to being on L-1 and panic and slip up
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Post Post #250 (isolation #71) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:48 am

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That was unexpected
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Post Post #251 (isolation #72) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:49 am

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In post 249, Azuresky wrote:The living players better step the fuck up tomorrow.
Don't worry, I think I've calmed down now compared to the start of the game.
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Post Post #253 (isolation #73) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:44 am

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In post 252, Azuresky wrote:"I don't feel like waiting"
Waiting for what?
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Post Post #254 (isolation #74) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:45 am

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In post 253, Elements wrote:
In post 252, Azuresky wrote:"I don't feel like waiting"
Waiting for what?
I'm just figured it means reapers replacement nvm
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Post Post #257 (isolation #75) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:11 am

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I like your new pp Aaron
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Post Post #260 (isolation #76) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:36 am

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In post 258, Azuresky wrote:
In post 256, AaronFrost wrote:I don't see this flipping scum tbh. If it flips town, then at least one of the last three on the wagon {Spam, Elements, Azure} are probably scum.
God I hope I get killed tonight.

Put me out of my misery
and i was just starting to town read you
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Post Post #271 (isolation #77) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:56 am

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In post 263, Azuresky wrote:You shouldnt be townreading me anyways.
I was starting to think your town because I thought our conflict was just two incredibly different play styles butting heads.
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Post Post #275 (isolation #78) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:06 am

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The activity since the hammer has been higher then that most of the rest of the game
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Post Post #290 (isolation #79) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:28 pm

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So this pinged me straight away:
In post 256, AaronFrost wrote:I don't see this flipping scum tbh. If it flips town, then at least one of the last three on the wagon {Spam, Elements, Azure} are probably scum.
In post 289, skitter30 wrote:There's almost for sure scum on (the back half of) that wagon
VOTE: elements
Especially Aaron's post. Is basically telling scum "we're most likely going to lynch inside these three tomorrow" then Azure dies. To me that looks like scum trying to cause confusion off the night kill and push a mislynch on NMSA or me. Most likely me given azurs's reads.

I have two current theories:

1 - Aaron/Skitter scum team. Aaron setting up the mislynch set at the end of the last day then they killed azure in the night for added confusion. Now they start pushing on one of the others in Aaron's set (me). The only problem I have is that skitter is an expereienced player and I can't imagine them being so brazen with their first post.

2 - We have absolutely no idea what's going on. Mafia are sitting back watching us tear ourselves apart. The night kill was purely to confuse us. This works due to the number of wagons that reached L-1 and the speed in which they did so. At most I think there would be 1 scum on any of those wagons. That said, I'm going to check back through the voting and have a look.

For now VOTE: Aaron
will change once I've looked at the voting
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Post Post #291 (isolation #80) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:04 am

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Spoiler: Day 1 Voting
Elements -> Elements
skitter -> Azure
roster -> Elements
Hectic -> Elements
Reaper -> Elements
Elements ->
Reaper ->
roster -> Reaper
Elements -> roster
Aaron -> Hectic
Skitter -> roster
Elements -> Aaron
Elements -> Skitter
Reaper -> NMSA
Tchill -> Reaper
NMSA -> Tchill
Tchill -> Elements
Azure -> Hectic
Tchill -> Reaper
Elements -> Hectic
Hectic -> Reaper
Elements -> Reaper
Reaper -> Hectic
Tchil -> NMSA
Aaron -> Azure
Elements -> Azure
NMSA -> Azure
Azure -> Elements
Reaper -> Roster
Tchill -> Azure
Elements ->
Tchill ->
Aaron -> Elements
Skitter -> Elements
Tchill -> Elements
Tchill ->
Elements -> Tchill
NMSA -> Reaper
Elements -> Reaper
Azure -> Reaper

Vote Changes:
Elements - 11
Skitter - 3
roster - 2
hectic - 2
reaper - 5
Aaron - 3
Tchill - 8
NMSA - 3
Azure - 3


Looking though the voting I'm favouring my second theory and don't think I'm liking Hectic or roster at this point. They both parked their votes early on. roster is also the epitome of lurking. His 12 posts contain less fact than a chocolate frog card.
VOTE: roster
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Post Post #293 (isolation #81) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:16 am

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I think it's designed to cause confusion
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Post Post #295 (isolation #82) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:22 am

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In post 294, NotMySpamAccount wrote:VOTE: Hectic
Give some explanation before I join you?
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Post Post #297 (isolation #83) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:04 am

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In post 296, Tchill13 wrote:@elements why does an azure nk setup you or NotMySpamAccount specifically? I agree the nk was made to cause confusion. It pretty much has to be considering azure was probably gonna be lynched today.
People saying "scum in the last three" and me being azure's strongest scum read
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Post Post #303 (isolation #84) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:37 am

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In post 302, AaronFrost wrote:Fair enough. Still don't see how it connects me/skitter though.
The you/skitter connection is because you both said scum probably in the last three on the wagon
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Post Post #305 (isolation #85) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:13 am

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That's what I mean when I said it seems too brash
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Post Post #306 (isolation #86) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:13 am

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I mean, I have dismissed that theory. Idk why we're still talking about it
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Post Post #308 (isolation #87) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:20 am

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I'm thinking hectic might be scum from the night kill. It's obviously just for confution, and that's a very hectic thing to do. (No pun intended)
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Post Post #310 (isolation #88) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:38 am

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Cool
VOTE: hectic
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Post Post #312 (isolation #89) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:17 pm

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Hectic/roster either say something or concede. We're getting bored here
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Post Post #347 (isolation #90) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:24 pm

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In post 335, AaronFrost wrote:It honestly feels like an attempt to look busy without actually doing anything.
I'm an impulse poster
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Post Post #348 (isolation #91) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:33 pm

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I feel like the scum team might be Hectic/roster. I'd rather lynch roster because then we are 100% getting rid of an anti-town player.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #92) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:40 pm

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In post 290, Elements wrote:Most likely me given azurs's reads.
In post 297, Elements wrote:Me being azure's strongest scum read
Twice I commented on me being Azure's strongest scum read thank you very much Hectic.

I'm not so sure about the everyone's thoughts that there was scum in the last three of the wagon. Hectic and roster had their votes parked on her for the majority of the - albeit short - day, and most of Hectic's posts are him saying roster is scummy and so pushing for her lynch.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #93) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:04 am

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Has this game stalled or am I just impatient? Idk but I'm going to Iso everyone now starting with the least posts and probably get bored halfway though. No one will appreciate this.
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Post Post #353 (isolation #94) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:10 am

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Spoiler: RVS
In post 9, rosterfoster wrote:
In post 8, Elements wrote:How does one quote from past newbie games?
Like this.

VOTE: Elements

I see a wagon, I join a wagon.
In post 15, rosterfoster wrote:
In post 11, Hectic wrote:And if I see some
chickeneater
like you go around self-voting like you're doing us all some favour, and helping progress the game, you are so so wrong.
I like you <3
In post 16, rosterfoster wrote:A hammer on post 17 would be spicy.
In post 22, rosterfoster wrote:VOTE: Reaper of Souls

Srsvote
Says its a serious vote yet gives no reason why. completely useless.
In post 27, rosterfoster wrote:
In post 25, Elements wrote:I like roster
VOTE: rosterfoster
Me too!
In post 26, ReaperOfSouls wrote:I forgot you could you could majority on day 1 here.
Does not compute
Another pointless post
In post 64, rosterfoster wrote:Tchill is town.

Skitter is probably town also tbh.

is exactly why I voted reaper fyi
the only useful post in their whole iso

Spoiler: meaninless
In post 84, rosterfoster wrote:
In post 69, skitter30 wrote:
In post 64, rosterfoster wrote:Tchill is town.

Skitter is probably town also tbh.

is exactly why I voted reaper fyi
Y am i townie?
You’re attacking me.
In post 85, rosterfoster wrote:Hectic is also my new favourite person <3
In post 178, rosterfoster wrote:I would be funny if I hammered...
In post 179, rosterfoster wrote:But I don’t really get the scum case.
In post 217, rosterfoster wrote:I may possibly catch up with this game tomorrow
In post 255, rosterfoster wrote:Oh my.

Usually these are fakeahammers but this is real.

This better flip scum.
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Post Post #354 (isolation #95) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:11 am

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When I'm saying pointless/meaningless it either means it's a pointless post or that it's NAI
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Post Post #357 (isolation #96) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:21 am

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Ooh someone has appeared! I can stop my boring Iso stuff.
In post 356, AaronFrost wrote:And now you're trying to push an inactive player for a lynch.
I think said inactive player is scum. If said inactive player isn't scum, they are playing very anti-town to the point where they'd be more useful to town dead as we can look at votes for them and who was/wasn't pushing.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #97) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:22 am

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Leaving them there as an inert blob is doing more harm than good
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Post Post #360 (isolation #98) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:29 am

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In post 359, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 357, Elements wrote:Ooh someone has appeared! I can stop my boring Iso stuff.
In post 356, AaronFrost wrote:And now you're trying to push an inactive player for a lynch.
I think said inactive player is scum. If said inactive player isn't scum, they are playing very anti-town to the point where they'd be more useful to town dead as we can look at votes for them and who was/wasn't pushing.
I mean at this rate he's probably going to be replaced anyways. I don't think an inactive player flipping would tell us much since he didn't really push anyone besides Reaper yesterday.
Who did and didn't want to lynch him would be good information when we see his flip
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Post Post #361 (isolation #99) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:31 am

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In post 356, AaronFrost wrote:And now you're trying to push an inactive player for a lynch.
I'm currently voting Hectic
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Post Post #363 (isolation #100) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:35 am

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Yea probably
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Post Post #365 (isolation #101) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:36 am

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@Salad, is roster getting replaced?
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Post Post #366 (isolation #102) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:37 am

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In post 364, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 361, Elements wrote:
In post 356, AaronFrost wrote:And now you're trying to push an inactive player for a lynch.
I'm currently voting Hectic
You started the day by voting for roster and he's one of your two scumreads currently
Don't pretend it's not that the only person I had time to iso was roster and i was v. harsh on him
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Post Post #367 (isolation #103) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:38 am

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by V. harsh I mean sid everything he said was meaningless drivel
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Post Post #376 (isolation #104) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:17 pm

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God damn it, I was writing a meaty post - for my standards - and accidentally closed the tab
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Post Post #377 (isolation #105) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:14 pm

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Noooooo! I just did it again...
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Post Post #378 (isolation #106) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:26 pm

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You know what they say, third time lucky
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Post Post #379 (isolation #107) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:03 am

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In post 372, skitter30 wrote:again, how often have you seen wagons go down like that only has town voting in the back half ... ?
Twice, recently.

I'm assuming people think the last three contain scum given the speed of the hammer. Azure was town so there is no way in which scum could've co-ordinated the hammer. Unless you think NMSA and I are both scum wanting to put reaper to L-1 so someone would accidentally hammers, NMSA's vote is the same as any other L-2 vote in the game, and mine is the same as any L-1 vote in the game. There have been so many L-1 wagons my vote would have been as AI as any of the others if there was no hammer. The only reason you all think one of us is scum, is because there was a hammer, but the hammer was town. I think the night kill confirms NMSA as town? OK not confirms, but makes him more likely to be town.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #108) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:50 am

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Skitter, you think I'm scum, in what world do I think Azure is the optimal night kill?
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Post Post #387 (isolation #109) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:17 am

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In post 386, Hectic wrote:Have I played with you before
For everyone who doesn't know, Hectic and I were both members of the University of Warwick's mafia society last year during which we played
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Separate point:
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So I ask you, is the Azure night kill not worse for me then it is for anyone else? Not only is it killing a potential mislynch but also incriminates me with reads that would otherwise have been mostly ineffectual and were formed less than a week after the game started.
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Post Post #388 (isolation #110) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:18 am

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In post 385, Hectic wrote:Your votes in . Why didn't you just vote for me? Why wait for Spam to provide an explanation and what did you like about his explanation which convinced you to change your vote?
I was going to vote for you anyway. The question was for getting a better read on spam.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #111) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:25 am

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In post 385, Hectic wrote:My disagreement with your theories in , and my criticism of the structure of your post
I've already discarded them as total rubbish and pointed out occasions where I have commented on Azure's reads.
I have nothing to say on your thoughts about the scumminess of the structure of my post
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Post Post #392 (isolation #112) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:36 am

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In post 391, Hectic wrote:I'm not going to write off the possibility that I'm death tunneling yet another fucking townie here, but I'm pretty deadset on Elements at the moment.
Other than the night kill, why?
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Post Post #396 (isolation #113) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:43 pm

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In post 395, skitter30 wrote:why has this game kinda died ....
Idk, I've been doing my best to keep it going
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Post Post #397 (isolation #114) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:44 pm

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hopefully the roster replacement will liven things up
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Post Post #398 (isolation #115) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 394, skitter30 wrote:
In post 381, Elements wrote:Skitter, you think I'm scum, in what world do I think Azure is the optimal night kill?
the one where they've been calling out a scumread on you
In post 387, Elements wrote:
In post 386, Hectic wrote:Have I played with you before
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So I ask you, is the Azure night kill not worse for me then it is for anyone else? Not only is it killing a potential mislynch but also incriminates me with reads that would otherwise have been mostly ineffectual and were formed less than a week after the game started.
I refer you to this as to why I wouldn't have done that
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Post Post #404 (isolation #116) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:27 am

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You could wait for the replacement and not risk someone hammering 10 days before the deadline again
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Post Post #405 (isolation #117) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:31 am

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Everyone who's voting me, when I flip town who are do you think is scum?
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Post Post #408 (isolation #118) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:50 am

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Can you all answer my questions now?
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Post Post #410 (isolation #119) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:06 am

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In post 409, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
In post 405, Elements wrote:Everyone who's voting me, when I flip town who are do you think is scum?
Probably Hectic, maybe with Tchill or roster? It's tough to find a good team that doesn't have you tbh
Are there "good" teams that do have me?
Now you're against me there is literally zero opposition to my wagon. None at all. Does that not strike you as odd. As it stands I think the point of the night kill was to mislynch me, if I was scum that means the night kill was for the express purpose of bussing me.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #120) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:14 am

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I'm currently thinking the scum team is Hectic and Aaron or spam. Where hectic pushes for my lynch today with an early vote and then the other waits to asses the situation before joining in. I'm erring on the side of NMSA from post 409.
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Post Post #412 (isolation #121) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:34 am

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It seems to be, the reasons I'm being scum read are:
1 - Azure scum read me
2 - I was an L-1 vote

Counter points to me being scum:
1 - Azure's death was what made people look at her reads - I have the lease incentive to kill her
2 - Every wagon on day 1 reached L-1, the hammer was town
3 - No one is on my side, I have been the only considered lynch by most people for most of the day
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Post Post #413 (isolation #122) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:34 am

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Oi Hectic, I can see you're online. Come post.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #123) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:54 am

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In post 415, Hectic wrote:Why are you ignoring all of the other points I've brought up about you?
Which were?
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Post Post #419 (isolation #124) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:55 am

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In post 416, Hectic wrote:But one could argue I was that counterwagon until Spam saw some fucking sense earlier.
Counter wagon of 2? With no interest from anyone else? I don't think so you tumble dryer.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #125) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:07 am

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In post 420, Hectic wrote: 1 - Entering day 2 trying to paint the narrative that the night kill was for confusion.
2 - Flimsy logic on skitter+Aaron theory.
3 - Your delayed vote onto me after waiting for Spam to respond.
4 - Constructed first post in D2, taking forced stances.
1 - Since them I've gotten into your mind and know why you really did it. You trying to paint it as "to protect me from Azure's reads" is even more flimsy.
2 - I disregarded it effective immediately
3 - I wanted to see NMSA's answer first.
4 - Hypocrite
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Post Post #423 (isolation #126) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:48 am

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In post 422, Hectic wrote:Actually, I think you'll find my post was extremely genuine and natural, with thoughts emanating directly from the fucking fibres of my very soul.
Your entire angry rant shtick is designed to make you hard to read. I know for a fact you prefer playing scum and you are enjoying this way too much to not be scum tunnelling me. At this point you're going all in to get me lynched then either getting your buddy to bus you tomorrow and hope they can hide, or hope you can worm your way out of a lynch tomorrow.
If anybody doesn't support a lynch on Hectic tomorrow I will hold them solely responsible for us losing the game.
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Post Post #425 (isolation #127) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:41 am

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Whatever, this isn't changing ever. All that will happen is Hectic and Spam hypnotise you more into thinking I'm scum.
VOTE: Elements
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Post Post #426 (isolation #128) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:41 am

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End how you begin. Like all Circles
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Post Post #430 (isolation #129) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:51 am

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I like my hammer being the page top
Very aesthetic
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Post Post #432 (isolation #130) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:11 am

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No, it was a reaction test
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Post Post #434 (isolation #131) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:30 am

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In post 431, AaronFrost wrote:Did... did you just self-hammer?
Don't like this post. Aaron could be scum
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Post Post #437 (isolation #132) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:54 am

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In post 435, NotMySpamAccount wrote:
Elements wrote:Whatever, this isn't changing ever. All that will happen is Hectic and Spam hypnotise you more into thinking I'm scum.
VOTE: Elements
If you're town, we're hsving a talk postgame. PSA because apparently I have to keep saying this: DON'T SELFHAMMER AS TOWN. IT'S ANTI-WINCON 99.9% OF THE TIME.
Yea, but I don't want you talking and making yourself appear town.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #133) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:55 am

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In post 438, AaronFrost wrote:Selfhammering is anti-wincon no matter which alignment you are.
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Post Post #441 (isolation #134) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:59 am

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In post 440, NotMySpamAccount wrote:Welp, no talking to the replacement before eod, thanks. Thanks as well for another hammer with 10 days left till deadline.
Jester, and also sometimes as scum you want to cut off discussion. You don't want to cut it off as town though, so Elements is being objectively anti-town rn.
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