Newbie 1966: History [GAME OVER]

[Moonchild]

Hey guys I’ve never played before but just woke up and sent a confirmation

[Moonchild]

Hmmm I see a lot of people throwing things around with no evidence

[Moonchild]

Hey guys I’ve never played before but just woke up and sent a confirmation

Good Day or Night. Even though there is very little to read right now, what is your current opinion on the Thread?

I’m not to sure but it seems a few people were already targeting me before I even started talking. Idk if it’s because I was quite or that it would be easy to get rid of me so they stay under the radar.

[Moonchild]

Hey guys I’ve never played before but just woke up and sent a confirmation

Good Day or Night. Even though there is very little to read right now, what is your current opinion on the Thread?

I’m not to sure but it seems a few people were already targeting me before I even started talking. Idk if it’s because I was quite or that it would be easy to get rid of me so they stay under the radar.

Anyone you would suspect?

At this moment not really there isn’t enough info

[Moonchild]

Do we know many Mafia are here

[Moonchild]

Never mind I’m bad at reading I just saw

[Moonchild]

They could also be trying to test how he reacts

[Moonchild]

It kinda seems like Jocus is reaching now.

[Moonchild]

Do we have to vote in the first day??

[Moonchild]

Dearest mod:

As Latin isn't the lingua franca here...for the record:

VOTE: Jocus A

Love the formality but also suspect the formality... VOTE: pyro

Hmmm true seems to thought out

[Moonchild]

From what I’ve read I’m suspicious of Jake and Yimmy, they seem to be putting the blame on each other to avoid suspicion.

[Moonchild]

Do something productive other than scumreading someone for the

exact

same reason as others.[/color]

It's fine for someone to say "I agree."

That's both lazy and unproductive, and I will scumread you if you just say "I agree", even if directed at me.

Quick transition from defending each other to a conflict is a concern.

Quote me where they turned on me. They haven't. They haven't even spoken about it yet.

I was stating what I saw and how I feel even if it is the same as others. You on the other hand have started to become a lot more defensive, scumread me all you want you want but I’m trying to figure things out.

[Moonchild]

You got a problem with people stating their opinions? Not all opinions are original. It's better for people to state agreement with others than to say nothing at all. Do you think that we have nothing to analyze if someone just says "I agree"?

Moonchild hasn't produced much content, and I'm being scumread for pushing it? No wonder we're lynching a town D1 instead of pushing for content.

Do something productive other than scumreading someone for the

exact

same reason as others.[/color]

It's fine for someone to say "I agree."

That's both lazy and unproductive, and I will scumread you if you just say "I agree", even if directed at me.

Quick transition from defending each other to a conflict is a concern.

Quote me where they turned on me. They haven't. They haven't even spoken about it yet.

I was stating what I saw and how I feel even if it is the same as others. You on the other hand have started to become a lot more defensive, scumread me all you want you want but I’m trying to figure things out.

Quote me on where Yimmy attacked me or GTFO.

Okay so I just went back through the thread and realised that I was thinking of Jocus not Yimmy. I apologise

[Moonchild]

Seeing Jocus while going back through the thread he seems to continually attack jake at any opportunity he gets even going back to his old game to try and get us to believe him.

[Moonchild]

Seeing Jocus while going back through the thread he seems to continually attack jake at any opportunity he gets even going back to his old game to try and get us to believe him.

I think Jocus is aggressive af, but town

That’s why I think he has an important town role because he is very vocal about what he thinks.

[Moonchild]

I'd say it's overreaction since Jack's already played a Mafia game anymore and RVS isn't new to him: see https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80327

Looks like you were talking about Jack..

[Moonchild]

What is VC?

[Moonchild]

Okay well if we are going to have a lynch I will Vote:Jake because he’s been really aggressive at times when his had the suspension on him.

[Moonchild]

Idk if it works now

VOTE: Jake

[Moonchild]

VOTE: Jake

[Moonchild]

VOTE: SausasaurusRex
Welcome back to the scum life!

Since nothing else is happening, is there some history I'm not bothered to read up on, or is this just a random vote?

Isn't this a serious question?

Isn't this a complaint?

jake completely ignored this question and jocus didn't acknowledge that jake ignored it, and both of those things irritate me.

And then to have Yimmy come to his rescue out of nowhere, just kind of smells of scumbuddies.

I neither said that Jake was town nor that his first posts were town indicative (I think they're entirely null). I do think they're far from scum indicative because I think asking questions, forced or "overreactions" as they may be is the best way out of RVS by a mile, and to suspect someone for pushing out of RVS is absolutely silly. Perhaps I'm mistaken because of my long absence though. How should we escape RVS without forced questions?

Quick transition from defending each other to a conflict is a concern.

Where did Jake defend me? Where did I oppose Jake? Or are you referring to someone else?

Seeing Jocus while going back through the thread he seems to continually attack jake at any opportunity he gets even going back to his old game to try and get us to believe him.

I think Jocus is aggressive af, but town

That’s why I think he has an important town role because he is very vocal about what he thinks.

Why are you PR hunting?

I think the Scum team is most likely LoserdudeOG/Focus Aevorum

Can you elaborate on both of these? Both of these just look like OMGUS as it is.

that's the response portion. onto reads and such

EspeciallyTheLies: slight town. He's scumhunting prominently and asking good questions without any fluff, and his logic is sound and doesn't seem to have an agenda. 72 and 78 give me some pause though. Basically telling Jake what to think and then that he likes him looks a little manipulative.

Jocum: very slight town. He looks to be scumhunting and isn't afraid to share his thoughts, but on the other hand he's only scumhunting Jake. Such tunneling from page 1 would be silly for scum to do, so I'll put him at town for now. Would you share some thoughts about anybody's alignment besides Jake?

Pyro: null. His last post was hardly out of RVS but the promise of iso's gives me hope. I eagerly await it

Dunnstral: null. please post. you've only posted once since RVS and it was one sentence :/

Loserdude: null. He looks to be scumhunting and thinking in a pro-town manner, but then puts Jake (who he has not voiced any suspicions of) at L-2 for no explained reason. Why did vote for Jake?

SausasaurusRex: null. His only non-RVS post is just a reiteration of somebody elses post, but he isn't posting enough that it seems he's trying to look like town. don't want to give a pass on lurking, though. post more

Jake: slight scum. He's the noisiest by quite a bit, but he hasn't shared any thoughts (like reads or disagreements) unless specifically questioned or under heavy pressure (l-2), just questions, defense, and telling other people to post thoughts. Looks like scum trying to be proactive without the effort or risk of faking opinions. (his first two posts are still null though) Might I ask you for a full readslist with reasoning?

Moonchild: scum. 27 to 30 is odd. 27 voices suspicion/concern at some people's behavior (without naming names for some reason), but immediately after in 30 she says she wouldn't suspect anyone. And then in 82 she happily voices suspicion on Jake (a wagon that's already gained steam) and

me

(later corrected to Jocum) with very little to back that up. And then she later in 100 goes on to say that she thinks Jocum's a PR and not scum, implying both PR hunting (town doesn't want to out a PR and get them killed) and arbitrary read changes. Just overall seems scared to accuse anybody of being scum, which would make a lot more sense if she herself was scum Could you please elaborate on your scumreads, and also tell me when and why you changed from thinking Jocum was scum to thinking he was a PR?
Regarding the townslip: I feel like I vaguely remember from my time here three years ago that newbies are prone to trying to fake townslips. idk if this is accurate at all though, please correct me if I'm wrong.

good night

To be honestly I’m winging this I never knew this website existed till a few days ago, can you please tell me what PR hunting is?

[Moonchild]

A strong town role (more specifically anything besides vanilla townie or mafia goon) is referred to as a power role, or pr for short. So pr hunting is searching for strong town roles

Thank you now I understand why people were taking my actions negatively

[Moonchild]

Okay so I was looking at other mafia games and should we start asking questions cause at the moment we aren’t getting anywhere.

[Moonchild]

I am her* btw

[Moonchild]

UNVOTE: Jake

[Moonchild]

Okay so I’ve read the new pages and yes I haven’t been very helpful but this has what I’ve gotten so far

Jake:
He came of as over reacting to RVS but his defence was he hasn’t played in a while which I understand, he has been very loud and though he keeps pushing others for content but mostly fails to provide his own I don’t think he is scummy I think he is a townie.

Especiallythelies:
Very well thought out and observant though post 60 when he first came in and Paired jake and Yimmy it seemed a bit rushed and voted jake straight up (as they said though could just be voting who they suspect most) other than that very helpful with information
Post 72 to 74 looks like he is trying to manipulate Jake into voting for Yimmy by calling him out and putting him in a position that no mater what Jake does he looks scum, as Jake said in post 75 if he doesn’t vote yimmy he would be scum because yimmy had been scum read and and if he does vote Yimmy he only did it because he was called out. At the moment I’m a little suspicious but let’s see what happens.

Rex:
He is being very productive I understand him voting me I haven’t had strong arguments and it’s quite smart to pressure people for info. He has some good argument and good at explaining his actions. I think he is a townie

Yimmy:
Early in post 22 defending Jake like he knows he is innocent even voting Jocus why so confident? (Could also be protecting fellow scum) Post 34 and 41 still pushing the defence of Jake making Jocus look scummy for pointing out what he thought was a bit scummy. Well spoken when explaining though I’m highly suspicious of him.

Dunnstral:
Nothing I don’t really have much to read from him, I’m gonna need more content to understand him.

Jocus:
good when explaining himself though only seems to be scum reading Jake I’d like to see him reading some other people. Townie

Pyroderma:
Well thought out explanations provides evidence of his thought and suspicions he seems like a townie to me.

Loserdude:
Very short few word responses post 47 and 48 Again post 52 this person seems to hardly be here but when they do they have small responses that aren’t helpful or readable Post 91 votes for Jake but in post 92 he then goes on to scum read especiallythelies, why vote Jake with information from a player you are scum reading in the post under. I have them on my radar.