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Post Post #292 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:16 am

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Hey everyone! I will catch up shortly.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:33 am

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I am caught up. I believe mastina to be Town. I also believe Team STRQ to be Town though with a lesser degree of confidence.
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Post Post #319 (isolation #2) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:57 pm

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Hello, gobbledygook! You are replacing a slot that I had a light Townread on, so I am looking forward to your views on the game.
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Post Post #412 (isolation #3) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:18 am

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In post 332, gobbledygook wrote:I still have the last few pages to read. I think Mastina and Chronos are my top townreads.
Would you please go into your Chronos read more in-depth?
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Post Post #415 (isolation #4) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:24 am

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In post 334, gobbledygook wrote:Why do you think Mastina is town?
Mostly due to my previous experience with mastina. There is a stark difference in the tonality of her post with regard to the apparent enjoyment of the game, and the strength of her read on a player that she believes to have caught as Mafia (in this case Adorable). If she was Mafia, I believe that she would be playing to set up her partners for success and not come across as trying to solve the game, which I believe her to be doing.
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Post Post #416 (isolation #5) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:25 am

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In post 335, gobbledygook wrote:
Town Core: Activate!

- Chronos
- Churros
- Mastina
- Sujimichi

Obliterate


Scum Core:
Die

- Titus
- Rabid Schnauzer
- Egix96
- EspressoPatronum
Why am I and Churros in your Town Core?
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Post Post #420 (isolation #6) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:29 am

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In post 416, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 335, gobbledygook wrote:
Town Core: Activate!

- Chronos
- Churros
- Mastina
- Sujimichi

Obliterate


Scum Core:
Die

- Titus
- Rabid Schnauzer
- Egix96
- EspressoPatronum
Why am I and Churros in your Town Core?
Apologies. You explained why I am included in post . Would you please explain Churros, then?
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Post Post #422 (isolation #7) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:32 am

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In post 349, Egix96 wrote:
In post 348, gobbledygook wrote:Now, I have a question for you, Egix.
Why did you ask me about Sujimichi, but not ask Sujimichi about his reads or opinions?
It stuck out to me like a sore thumb that you were townreading Suji for what I regarded as three NAI posts, and why would I question Suji's townreads when they were similar to my own?
I have only given two of my reads at this point in the game and did not explain why. gobbledygook asks a valid question.
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Post Post #425 (isolation #8) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:35 am

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In post 361, mastina wrote:Particularly Sujimichi because this is night and day different from any Sujimichi towngame I've ever seen.
In what way, mastina?
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Post Post #426 (isolation #9) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:37 am

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In post 362, mastina wrote:Sujimichi is lurking and that is not a town Sujimichi even remotely.
Apologies, you explained that. I am limited access on weekends.
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Post Post #429 (isolation #10) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:44 am

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In post 371, Churros wrote:I've procastinated today and didn't re:read the game but...yeah I think I'm just going to keep going from here, I'm getting a good grasp here already. Maybe.

I'll try to check out Adorable case/meta another day, out of respect for mastina I'm putting him a bracket below what I would normally have him as

[Chronos]
[Suji, Mastina, Adorable]
[Gobble]
[everyone else]
[Titus, Eyesott]
Why would you have Adorable as one of your top Town reads but for respect for mastina?
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Post Post #430 (isolation #11) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:54 am

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In post 427, Titus wrote:Suji, can you help me get things going on scum? EP, BP or Gobbles?
Gobbledygook is Town. I think so more now than when I was just looking at Team STRQ.

Could you summarize why you so strongly believe that EspressoPatronum and BP are Mafia?
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Post Post #461 (isolation #12) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:17 pm

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In post 431, EspressoPatronum wrote:Everything I do is confirming your misconception. You're actively resisting the only way I know how to get you out of that tunnel -- by engaging with you. So you're either town tunneling me hard or you're scum trying for a mislynch. In the event that I am wrong on the latter, I would like to engage with you to help correct the former.

If you insist on scumreading me this strongly without engaging in a good-faith dialogue, I ask that you at least do a blank-slate re-evaluation of me later.
What are your current reads?
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Post Post #462 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:19 pm

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In post 433, Titus wrote:BP's vote was highly scum indicative. He complained about the pace of the game, which was slow. He also didn't vote anyone who was actively posting at the time. Those two together are basically a neon sign that BP just wants to lurk away. I highlighted this. EP agreed and we voted him. Then EP bails after picking a fight with obvtown Chronos.

I am rather annoyed at how often I have to repeat this.

Gobbles is distancing from the pair rather than scumhunting IMO.
Apologies for adding to your annoyance as I read earlier what your rationale for BP was; however, I wanted you to summarize it again for consistency's sake. I do not think your rationale for gobbledygook is accurate.

Why is Chronos "obvtown?"
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Post Post #464 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:27 pm

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In post 463, Titus wrote:Great, you can disagree with me on Gobble. Do you feel my summary of EP's posting was accurate?

Chronos is obvtown from a quick read of his ISO. Scumhunting. Unafraid to be wrong and unabashedly so. He's focused on the whole game too. By far he's my biggest TR. Any reason why you're not TRing him? That'd be a unique position.
Thank you. I did not express that I was not reading Chronos as Town. I have, in fact, not mentioned a read on Chronos and do not wish to at this moment.

I would like to hear from EspressoPatronum before I comment on your summary of his posting.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:30 pm

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In post 452, EspressoPatronum wrote:The blatant mischaracterization is getting old.
Can you point out how this summary is a mischaracterization of your posting?
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Post Post #468 (isolation #16) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:33 pm

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In post 466, Titus wrote:Also, *grumbles* on Chronos hedge.
Apologies; however, given the level and amount of Townreads it is a useful barometer for me.
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Post Post #477 (isolation #17) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:06 am

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In post 412, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 332, gobbledygook wrote:I still have the last few pages to read. I think Mastina and Chronos are my top townreads.
Would you please go into your Chronos read more in-depth?
As a reminder, gobbledygook, I would still like this to be answered.
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Post Post #631 (isolation #18) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:25 am

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Apologies for my absence. I was having trouble accessing the site for the past two days. I will catch up shortly.
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Post Post #764 (isolation #19) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:21 am

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In post 759, gobbledygook wrote:VOTE: Sujimichi
I believe I know why; however, you are mistaken.
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Post Post #765 (isolation #20) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:58 am

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VOTE: momo
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Post Post #767 (isolation #21) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:48 am

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Apologies if I am incorrect, but I assumed that you targeted me last night and believe me to have killed mastina as a result.
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Post Post #769 (isolation #22) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:57 am

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I had something I wanted to give her as she was my strongest town read.

Could you explain why you voted me at the start of the day since it was not due to a result you received?
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Post Post #772 (isolation #23) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:56 am

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In post 770, gobbledygook wrote:Mastina scumread you yesterday. I’m carrying on her wishes
You are correct that she did initially; however, you are incorrect in that she changed her stance. If you read her posts and , you will see that.
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Post Post #773 (isolation #24) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:58 am

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In post 771, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 770, gobbledygook wrote:Mastina scumread you [Suji] yesterday. I’m carrying on her wishes
In post 589, mastina wrote:Turkey + eyestott + Titus

Chronos + Churros + alimidia

Egix96


EspressoPatronum + Sujimichi




Rabid Schnauzer
Adorable/momo
BP/pisskop


Locktown, strong town, weak town, null, then scumreads.
VOTE: Gobble
Why does this warrant a vote on gobbledygook?
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Post Post #779 (isolation #25) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:42 am

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In post 776, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 772, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 770, gobbledygook wrote:Mastina scumread you yesterday. I’m carrying on her wishes
You are correct that she did initially; however, you are incorrect in that she changed her stance. If you read her posts and , you will see that.
I think her earlier read was accurate after rereading yesterday.

I’m interested in the EP vote on me.
Then there is more to your vote than “carrying out her wishes” (especially as you are expressly not carrying them out). What did you find on your reread that led to you believing I am Mafia?
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Post Post #782 (isolation #26) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:50 am

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In post 778, EspressoPatronum wrote:Suji - same to you. Why momo?
A few reason:
  1. Adorable’s contribution to the game and response to mastina’s tunnel on her slot.
  2. mastina’s read and case on Adorable
  3. The voting formation surrounding Adorable and Rabid Schnauzer (and you) and resulting reveal of Rabid Schnauzer.
  4. The tone of Momo’s posts
I can expand on each point as necessary, however I am on mobile currently.
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Post Post #783 (isolation #27) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:51 am

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In post 781, EspressoPatronum wrote:@Suji - why didn't you vote yesterday?
As I mentioned previously, I was unable to access the site for several days, and by the time I was able to and get caught up there was a lynch.
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Post Post #801 (isolation #28) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:43 pm

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In post 779, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 776, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 772, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 770, gobbledygook wrote:Mastina scumread you yesterday. I’m carrying on her wishes
You are correct that she did initially; however, you are incorrect in that she changed her stance. If you read her posts and , you will see that.
I think her earlier read was accurate after rereading yesterday.

I’m interested in the EP vote on me.
Then there is more to your vote than “carrying out her wishes” (especially as you are expressly not carrying them out). What did you find on your reread that led to you believing I am Mafia?
As a reminder, I would like this to be answered and your follow up post did not do so. In fact, it results in another question. Why do you feel that my action (of which you presume incorrectly) was a "pocket attempt" and not a result of my explicitly stated Town read?
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Post Post #802 (isolation #29) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:44 pm

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In post 794, momo wrote:
In post 1, TemporalLich wrote:-This game is role madness.
For Titus to claim a role, then say she is lying and that she is a VT in a role madness game when she realizes her lie can be proven false is possibly the most suspicious thing possible.
Where did Titus claim a role?
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Post Post #803 (isolation #30) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:44 pm

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Apologies. It was answered. I do more strongly believe I am voting correctly.
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Post Post #804 (isolation #31) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:46 pm

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In post 800, Titus wrote:Looking at the wagons I see momo/EP and/or EP/pisskop. I scumread all three individually and collectively based on EoD.
Titus is my new strongest Townread. This is also what I concluded from the flow of the wagons.
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Post Post #809 (isolation #32) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:52 pm

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In post 808, momo wrote:In fact, looking at the vote counts alone, the worst offender is gobble. Gobble is simply going onto wagons as they get momentum.
Would you please break this down for me? When I reviewed them, this is not the conclusion at which I ended up.
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Post Post #814 (isolation #33) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:07 am

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In post 810, gobbledygook wrote:
I found the few posts that you did have yesterday were not up to the standard that I have in my mind for Sujimichi!town based on Skyrim uPick. I just felt like your posts there were
filled
with substance. Your posts before today did not carry that same feeling.

I will say since this day has started I do feel better about you being town. I also feel that way for EspressoPatronum, which is relieving. I think the people that I think I have a good grasp on how they play town were not in their groove/zone on Day 1. I started in my groove/zone, but something happened that broke me quite frankly.

I think I am rebuilding my town core now and it is {Churros, Sujimichi, EspressoPatronum}.
Chronos has been dropped, but I don't think that really matters anymore because I feel like they are going to flake out today.

To answer your question about my pocket attempt comment, I feel like with your keen awareness of where you were on Mastina's readslist it would make sense for you to target her with a benign ability like an invention or a fruit. People look more kindly upon those who give them gifts (read: this is a true psychological phenomenon). After thinking about your ability, I do wish that you target me tonight
especially
if you are inventor. Please do not comment further on the accuracy of my speculation. But please reveal if you do wish to target as we approach deadline (is approach an okay word grammar Nazis).


VOTE: Egix96
Thank you. Would you explain why you think that Egix96 is a better vote than momo?
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Post Post #815 (isolation #34) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:08 am

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In post 811, alimdia wrote:Why are you claiming? or soft claiming
Apologies, but the reason should be apparent from the opening posts for Day 2.
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Post Post #816 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:09 am

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In post 812, alimdia wrote:A large reason of why RS was lynched was due to 'his meta', which is now shown to be wrong. I never understand why people use 'meta' in defence or in cases...
Did you intend for this comment to apply to the post of mine you quoted? If so, I'm not sure why.
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Post Post #845 (isolation #36) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:06 am

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In post 824, Egix96 wrote:I find it strange that you think a claimed duplicator could have investigated you.
Just because someone claims a role does not mean they are that role. Why do you find this strange when gobbledygook’s opening post for Day 2 was an unexplained vote on me?
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Post Post #846 (isolation #37) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:12 am

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In post 820, momo wrote:He goes from wanting to lynch my (adorable/momo) slot to voting RS with me
Did not mastina do this as well? I will fully analyze this on Monday since I am limited access this weekend, but on cursory glance I do not know that I agree with your assessment.
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