Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[Miccro Mask]

Hi

I have 2 and a half townreads from all that and a light scumlean

I think aldus and the duck are pretty town. Koba is towny but I would guillotine there today for QoL reasons. Not sure I wanna say who the light scumlean is yet, I want to let them post a bit more first

[Miccro Mask]

Sure!

I really liked this from aldus on koba outing the game I’m from:

is there anything to stop DC from just pretending to be from that setup? like what's to stop him from playing the game as miccro mask but not have his role taken from the mask game

Seemed to me like a sincere and natural paranoid town reaction rather than scum trying to make sure I wasn’t exempted from the execution pool.

*****

The duck has just been engaging in really good faith which makes me TR him because while I don’t have loads of experience with scum!him I know I’ve seen him really not bother to do that when he is scum.

This progression around koba was really good — scumreading the bad push, through to trying to offer advice/defuse and to help koba read him better, into the realisation that koba seems basically sincere in the final post I’m quoting.

You don't think I'm mafia though (:

like regardless of your alignment your opinion on high postcount players is slimy.
the fact you're also transparently ignoring my attempts to understand where you're coming from makes me think you're more interested in driving a push than actually sorting me

so like
no
i think you're mafia

yes i am interested in driving a push bc - it helps sort u and I have suspicion of you.

that is how u scumhunt

like yelling @ people in bad faith is an awful way to scumhunt
you're spouting constant nonsense and expecting me to answer it

unless you scumread me irl you're not going to discern much about me

there's this flash of cognisance around this thought:

see u are doing it again, trying to be all friendly ~~~ this is the shit im talkinga bout wrt not being inflammatory. when u start to come off as accusatory u immediately remedy it and try to make ppl feel like ur not attacking them.

leading into this post:

on one hand - i understand the sentiment of the vibe i get that u are just concerned with not being FoS'd, I have the same quirk when it comes to playing that I will hard question why anyone would fos me regardless of allignment.

on the other i still think ur scum

but alternatively I am unsure if anyone is going to be willing to sheep me on this so i may lay off for now and revisit once i have more evidence either way to sort you~

which isn't like, hypocritical but it's hypocrisy-adjacent and it makes me think there's actually a sincere thought process here.

[Miccro Mask]

I don’t think you did say the same thing as aldus

[Miccro Mask]

Although maybe you get some town points for misunderstanding what was happening with my role

But like you could be misunderstanding that as scum so... less townpoints

I should also mention that my aldus read is partly tonal, it’s just I think that psot was the one that pinged me most strongly. I also think he just ~*feels*~ different compared to the last 2 games with him (and he was scum in both of those)

[Miccro Mask]

Holy ninjas batman

[Miccro Mask]

is there anything to stop DC from just pretending to be from that setup? like what's to stop him from playing the game as miccro mask but not have his role taken from the mask game

also assuming donc is vanilla because he made a meme account from a game that was all vanilla is meh but

is this not a pretty similar sentiment?

Similar but different

You accepted the premise that I was from that setup but raised questions about whether that meant I was vanilla

Aldus was questioning if I was even from the mask setup or just memeing

[Miccro Mask]

Also: yoinks

[Miccro Mask]

The misunderstanding is thinking that I’m the one who made this account

[Miccro Mask]

Yeah

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DC im ngl your analysis on the worst feels ingenuine and made up. Please ellaborate on it.

Well it’s not, and no, I don’t feel the need to

[Miccro Mask]

DC im ngl your analysis on the worst feels ingenuine and made up. Please ellaborate on it.

i kinda agree tbh

How come?

[Miccro Mask]

Also, my scumlean was dsjstr but I doubt me keeping that quiet will be helpful now

[Miccro Mask]

im at work but my progression should be explanation enough for the vote

i agree donc is lowkey scummy but also what do you think of pooky

Interesting

[Miccro Mask]

DC im ngl your analysis on the worst feels ingenuine and made up. Please ellaborate on it.

i kinda agree tbh

How come?

Feels like a lot of words and an overexplanation almost? like it felt a bit hollow
i'm aware i'm not explaining this super well

It was two paragraphs and not meant to be super in depth

I find it a little odd that you’re scumpinged from it but not necessarily scummy from you

[Miccro Mask]

VOTE: dsjstr

[Miccro Mask]

Oh, datisi, I don’t feel like I have a good read on you yet, maybe slight town but not as much as aldus or the duck

I’d say my tentative reads are like

Aldus
Ducky
Koba

Datisi
Skitter

Bugs

Pooky
Dsjstr

[Miccro Mask]

Where it’s like, townreads, nulltown, null, scummy

[Miccro Mask]

I find it a little odd that you’re scumpinged from it but not necessarily scummy from you

oh? why is it odd (but not scummy)?

Hmm, good question

Idk exactly, I don’t feel like it’s something that’s actually scummy from me and so I think you getting early scumpings there is odd

But if you’re reading it as made up/hollow then I find that more peculiar than a thought that is necessarily coming from scum!you

It might be that you’re just approaching it from a very different angle, and that makes it seem odd to me that you don’t see it as null-at-worst but that difference just doesn’t necessarily equate to scumminess at this point

[Miccro Mask]

I actually like that question a lot

[Miccro Mask]

Are you also reading dsjstr as scummy for entering the game with a totally unrelated thing to what came before or is there more there @skitt?

[Miccro Mask]

Although maybe you get some town points for misunderstanding what was happening with my role

But like you could be misunderstanding that as scum so... less townpoints

donc can you talk to me about this? it's lowkey reminding me of "this from datisi is reasonable but reasonable =/= town" for some reason from pyp

do you think this comparison is fair / what do you think about it?

I mean (1) I think I do that as town too so I don’t think it’s a tell for me

And (2) I don’t really see it? Idk it townpinged me but I just thought the comment Aldus made about it was townier, probably partly because his whole tone feels different here. I think it’s worth noting that while his bus completely fooled me, I was actually correctly scumreading him off tone from pretty early D1 in coalition, and this is like that but the opposite. I thought that comment was the most individually representitative of a towny mindset

[Miccro Mask]

i'm kinda confused, i'm not sure what there is to like about that question ?
also you feel a bit like pyp to me rn
and it's not that i think the read was made up, per se, but it felt kinda like ~overexplained~ like you needed to show that you were Thinking about things

also i came to the same conclusion as you wrt tw and dk so i'm not sure i'm approaching it from a different angle either?

It just felt like quite an incisive question aimed at whether I was bullshitting instead of provoking an answer that could be ‘used’ by you or to receive an answer that would fit a narrative. The fact I had to think about how to express my feelings on that made me realise it wasn’t clear why I felt that way about you, and so you also feeling it wasn’t clear and seeking to clarify is +town for you I think

Idk why I feel like PyP but I guess maybe I do? I don’t think I do though, and I don’t know why that is

I also... just felt like explaining it more than I sometimes would? If I’d been in a different mood I might have done less, if I’d been in a different mood I might have fully towncased the duck and aldus (but prob not because (a) embarrassing if I’m wrong and (b) effort and I’m lazy)

I don’t mean approaching the whole game from a different angle — I mean specifically approaching that from a different angle, inherent to the differences in the two of us as players

[Miccro Mask]

err, i'm not asking you about my comment in 38

i'm asking if you think me commenting on your "hedging" in 222 and comparing it to a previous scumgame of yours is fair/correct

to be fair at this point i'm not sure what i'm trying to extract from this conversation exactly

...that’s what I was responding to?

[Miccro Mask]

Koba

I mean this in the nicest way

You’re an idiot, and you have no idea how to read me, and you should really sheep datisi and skitter both of whom *do* have an idea of how to read me

[Miccro Mask]

And (2) I don’t really see it? Idk it townpinged me but I just thought the comment Aldus made about it was townier, probably partly because his whole tone feels different here. I think it’s worth noting that while his bus completely fooled me, I was actually correctly scumreading him off tone from pretty early D1 in coalition, and this is like that but the opposite. I thought that comment was the most individually representitative of a towny mindset

this seemed like you were talking about 38 again but maybe i'm confusing myself

Idk I’m confusing myself now

Idk why you think I feel like in PyP unless it’s because I’m being hedgy, and I don’t think being hedgy is very alignment indicative for me

If it’s because ~*other reasons*~ then lmk and we can talk about it

[Miccro Mask]

You’re an idiot,

P.s. just in a mafia game sense and I hope this doesn’t exacerbate any mental health stuff irl that you may be dealing with

[Miccro Mask]

bold words after i just said i think you're lowkey scummy and after skitt says you remind her of pyp, donc

how about we lay our pitchforks down and all vote pooky together

I would be fine compromising there I think but what do you think about dsjstr?

Also yeah, but I just think you’re both having like early game misadjustments on me and I’m kind of just trusting in the idea that playing through D1 will let you both readjust on me and get to TRs

[Miccro Mask]

Eh sure VOTE: pooky

[Miccro Mask]

Also yeah, but I just think you’re both having like early game misadjustments on me and I’m kind of just trusting in the idea that playing through D1 will let you both readjust on me and get to TRs

Eh actually i need to think about my read on you a bit more.

You're also, like, oddly conciliatory to me/dats, who you arent townreading that strongly?

I'm kinda confused by this quote cuz its talking to us like u think we're town

Yeah, I do think you’re town? It’s not as strong a pure read but you’re both from my actual reads more towards town, and then you’re also PoE’d from not being in the bottom 3

[Miccro Mask]

Koba

I mean this in the nicest way

You’re an idiot, and you have no idea how to read me, and you should really sheep datisi and skitter both of whom *do* have an idea of how to read me

can we nip the personal attacks in the bud now thx. im very close to just filtering u out and power hanging you.

It’s cute that u think u could <3

[Miccro Mask]

Dc dont call dk names

Yeah, I’ll try, koba is in the archetype of “player who thinks they’re very good while not being good but shouting about how good they are” and that’s always a trigger point for me

[Miccro Mask]

The pooky dats thing is making me Anxious :/

Like IRL or game related?

[Miccro Mask]

I’m trying out a new thing

No but it’s like, idk, game specific I guess

Also I just feel weirdo good about you both and I’m not questioning it while there are three slots I’m not townreading and an happy to flip within

[Miccro Mask]

The pooky dats thing is making me Anxious :/

Like IRL or game related?

Um both? Idk its making me uncomfortable to read a bit

Yeah, I get that

I’m sorry about the IRL bit, that sucks

Can we talk about the in-game bit or do you wanna just leave it for a while? Either is cool

[Miccro Mask]

Datisi is really not an ego-driven player

I can be, koba definitely is

I think it’s scummy that you’re representing his play as that when I just know that regardless of alignment it’s inaccurate

If you’re town I think you should re-evaluate in the assumption that datisi is treating you in good faith here

If you’re scum then like w/e, u do u but this isn’t really s fun way to play

[Miccro Mask]

Why are koba and miccro even fighting?

Because koba thinks they can read me when they demonstrably cannot

[Miccro Mask]

BTW I asked Micc and I could totally play this game under a "mask" account as long as I made it clear it was still me.

This seems like it runs against the whole point of my role but

micc, if someone else was to want to play under a mask account, would they be announced as Player X playing as Mask X, or would they simply have been replaced by said mask account in the PL?

[Miccro Mask]

Why are koba and miccro even fighting?

Because koba thinks they can read me when they demonstrably cannot

i read u correctly as town in coalition bud dont

I mean you read basically everyone as town in coalition at one point or another. At the one point where it *actually mattered* if you could read my correctly, I wasn’t even in your top 50%

[Miccro Mask]

BTW I asked Micc and I could totally play this game under a "mask" account as long as I made it clear it was still me.

Could you repeat the question publicly?

[Miccro Mask]

Right, which is different to what I’m doing

[Miccro Mask]

I’m officially “DonCorleone *playing as* Miccro Mask”

[Miccro Mask]

I’m not substituted, and the most recent answer from micc confirms that my playing on this account is part of my role

[Miccro Mask]

Doesn’t confirm my alignment, obviously, but it does confirm that I’m not gimmicking “for the luls” here

[Miccro Mask]

so basically if you're scum at most you have 1 night kill?

Huh?

[Miccro Mask]

Pooky's posting in this game reminds me of Coalition when I was scum with him, especially when he was fighting with Koba except now instead of Koba it's Datisi. So I'm feeling good about my vote placement rn.

lol so scummy

Was the mask game all vanilla?

Yes, but I didn’t know the extra thing about the masks and needing to guess correctly

[Miccro Mask]

I think the duck and I should play a game where he tries to guess who I am at the end of the game

And if he’s right he wins

Spoiler:

my respect, although he already has that, so functionally he wins nothing

[Miccro Mask]

Also I fully had a heart attack there thinking I’d mainslipped

[Miccro Mask]

I actually corrected myself from saying your main at least twicd already!

Thank you lol

[Miccro Mask]

I am going now to attend to some things: duck, I entrust you with bringing some much needed levity and niceness to the thread because it’s lowkey been kind of unpleasant in the last few pages (which maybe a little bit was my fault but shh)

And anyway, we need some Good Vibes

So pls keep that in mind as you proceed

[Miccro Mask]

I really hope i dont mess up

It’s cool if you do, I’ll live <3

[Miccro Mask]

? I dont know what that sentence means

Waits quickly before I go — me or TW?

[Miccro Mask]

Oh right, okay, still going then

Skitt can fill you in

Main thing is datisi and pooky fighting

I snipe at koba a bit for not being able to read me but thinking they can

Datisi and skitter are somewhat scumleaning me

I feel pretty good on everyone town except (bugs, dsjstr, pooky)

There’s probably other stuff

[Miccro Mask]

Why are koba and miccro even fighting?

Because koba thinks they can read me when they demonstrably cannot

i read u correctly as town in coalition bud dont

I mean you read basically everyone as town in coalition at one point or another. At the one point where it *actually mattered* if you could read my correctly, I wasn’t even in your top 50%

pot kettle black.

Demonstrably untrue lmao:

HURT: all
HEAL: DkKoba
HEAL: Pooky
HEAL: Klick
HEAL: Sleeper
I'm looking for a good final slot but this is where I'm at with the core I've determined. pooky/klick are self explainatory at this point. and klick has solidified my read on them.

sleeper after reexamining the co-ISO with deimos I feel better about.

now I need to try to hit what is theoretically a 3/5 chance in deimos/don/aldu/mug/clover

clover being the top spot atm and don/aldu behind and then deimos/mug being my top scumreads at this point I feel.

HEAL: clover

HEAL: DC
HEAL: dkkoba
HEAL: pooky
HEAL: klick
HEAL: sleeper

HURT: DC
HEAL: clover

People being strongly influenced by the dunning-Kruger effect say “Miccro Mask is scum”?

[Miccro Mask]

why would I say that? I just submitted a dayvig on you instead

*let it be true, let it be true, let it be true*

[Miccro Mask]

Can we flip pooky now?

[Miccro Mask]

So I just got halfway through what would have been a

very

mean post about koba and that’s normally a sign to step away from the thread for a bit

But yeah, I’m pretty cool with us getting to the flipping, first preference dsjstr, second preference pooky, third preference bugs

Datisi, i think you were townresding bugs right? Can you explain again why that was?

[Miccro Mask]

VOTE: djstr

[Miccro Mask]

We can, but like idk exactly how long I’m gonna be around for live

[Miccro Mask]

Still think aldus has pretty good odds of being town. Don’t agree with the duck’s vote there at this point. I take what’s been said about him just lightly supporting pooky!wagon but I’m still not really convinced pooky is town. There’s some element of “he’s town” from how hard he’s fought this and the fact that he’s been pretty obnoxious about it, but equally there’s a lot that doesn’t seem like good faith — the bits where he talked about how this was some sort of revenge for Coalition seemed like super bad faith takes

I’m also not putting him fighting this hard out of his scumrange, because I think his range is solid

[Miccro Mask]

Well no, I can talk for a mo I just may have to leave suddenly

[Miccro Mask]

Koba is towny but I would guillotine there today for QoL reasons.

this is such a scummy post - lynching people cuz you don't like their playstyle even tho you think they're town is straight up gamethrowing

Incidentally, disagree
It’s definitely negative EV, but I can live with that if it means not having to play with certain people

[Miccro Mask]

I should also mention that my aldus read is partly tonal, it’s just I think that psot was the one that pinged me most strongly. I also think he just ~*feels*~ different compared to the last 2 games with him (and he was scum in both of those)

how is aldus tonally different from Coalition scum aldus?

He just strikes me as more engaged than he did there in his opening posts

Here he’s kind of more relaxed and what he’s said has been fairly focused on the current gamestate

There he didn’t feel relaxed he felt sort of stilted and he kept talking about the future etc

I’ll grant that his ISO is not super strong alone, but tonally i think I’m fine with not wanting him today

[Miccro Mask]

I also think you suggesting that aldus asking questions about the mask situation is susp

(1) I think that dumbtelling doesn’t actually come from scum that often and that’s what aldus would be doing. I think that it’s weird that you’re arguing that aldus is scummy for that while townresding datisi or not having the same worries there (if you did say this about datisi it got drowned out in the noise)

And (2) you know that aldus is liable to hardbus based on your last game with him. Although I’m not sure if he did in PyP actually, but either way I think assuming that *I* would feel the need to defend him/support him as I entered the game is a pretty bad take on what I’d likely do as scum

[Miccro Mask]

Datisi: i wanna talk to you donc

Also datisi:

[Miccro Mask]

I mean do you think I’m fundamentally wrong in my reads might be a start? Vs just slightly miscalibrated

[Miccro Mask]

Did you ever go into more on why you had bugs towards town?

[Miccro Mask]

also like stating that i agree with you is just gonna lead to another "see! a clique purposefully trying to get me killed as revenge and a coping mechanism!" thing and i already hate this game enough

I think someone bitching about there being a clique is like a very bad reason to not say you agree with someone if you do

[Miccro Mask]

I guess I don’t see anything that I’m townreading in bugs and think that what they’ve actually posted could be from either alignment even if they’re slightly more town on meta reasons

Idk if the meta holds though, because I’ve seen them be very quiet and flakey as both alignments, and so idk if their relative activity is really related to alignment vs related to mood/oog things

[Miccro Mask]

or, purposefully playing against my wincon for out-of-game grudge/satisfaction/coping mechanism.

I’m not convinced this is truly playing against wincon anyway tbh

If there’s a player producing a huge amount of noise and contributing very little i think removing them can help town win the game even if they are town

Like I think removing koba is probably slightly EV, but only very slightly

[Miccro Mask]

I guess I don’t see anything that I’m townreading in bugs and think that what they’ve actually posted could be from either alignment even if they’re slightly more town on meta reasons

Idk if the meta holds though, because I’ve seen them be very quiet and flakey as both alignments, and so idk if their relative activity is really related to alignment vs related to mood/oog things

i wasn't talking about their activity? like the thing i quoted is about the content of their posts, not the fact that they are posting?

Yah, I don’t really see what you’re talking about in their posts, this doesn’t seem beyond what I’ve seen from them in other games town or scum

[Miccro Mask]

Yes, but I think that argument is ridiculous and I think literally nobody is taking it seriously other than pooky, who, if scum, is also not taking it seriously and is just playing an obnoxious scumgame

[Miccro Mask]

I think my reads are currently sort of like

Datisi — i don’t think he’d have a fight like this with town!pooky, very outside chance based on last game that this is mutual bussing but I think it’s gone beyond that so I’m not meaningfully considering this as a possibility
Koba — irritating, spammy, totally wrong, sadly all things I think are coming from town
The worst — still think my initial reasons for TRing the duck are solid, I don’t think him defusing things is particularly AI because I think he’d hate the way the thread was going as both alignments, but I think his engagement with pooky and willingness to reconsider aldus is towny

Aldus — if pooky!town and duck!town I think it’s prob a good idea to consider their takes on aldus and suspicion around his positioning on pooky. But I still think his initial posting was good and that his paranoia thing wasn’t a faked dumbtell
Skitt — has been lowkey towny, and I just feel quite good about her. Would like to engage with her more post-weekend when she’s back

Pooky — really don’t TR him on play, he gets to go here on virtue of claim

Bugs — like, eh? No strong feeling thus far, no reason they can’t be scum
Dsjstr — think this is just scum, didn’t like the opening post for the reasons I gave way before, and just haven’t seen anything since then to sway me on this or to make me feel my TRs are wrong

[Miccro Mask]

Okay dats now I do gotta run i think

[Miccro Mask]

Sometimes I consider being aggressively bad at mafia

Then I think

“Wait, I’m not dkkoba, being dogshit at the game is their preserve!”

And then I decide not to be aggressively bad

[Miccro Mask]

Honestly, if I was wrong game after game after game I’d at least have the decency to be embarrassed about it

[Miccro Mask]

And to not crow about my reads if I were probably and demonstrably shit at having good reads

I also wouldn’t make ridiculous and preposterous statements about being the most likely NK

Koba you’re probably so low down on scum’s NK list you barely even register

I can only imagine that scum are thanking the GODS rn in scum pt for your presence in the game and your concerted effort to try and focus the game on a town slot when they’re busy in the wings and would be the easy choices for elimination if you didn’t have some ass-pull read on me that is just absolutely fucking awful and clearly based on the fact that I don’t toady to your shit play like you’re apparently expecting people to, not take you seriously in any way shape or form, nor listen to your reads when they’re obviously dogshit

[Miccro Mask]

donc, please don't.

No, fuck this

[Miccro Mask]

I’m not in the mood to be condescended to by someone who’s got about half a brain and probably can’t scumhunt for shit

Shall I quote back your shitty reads from past games koba?

[Miccro Mask]

i have rarely had such conviction that a person is lockscum to this point so perhaps see there is some merit fmpov. what u think is towny is NAI. DOING pro town things is not inherently towny. sorry.

Will you quit the game when I flip town? Will you stop playing on site? I’ll self vote rn if you agree to do that

[Miccro Mask]

VOTE: miccro

[Miccro Mask]

You should do

Save everyone from having to read another one of your blabbering moronic takes in between the shit you post that spams up the game while offering literally nothing of value to anyone

[Miccro Mask]

God, I’m glad I’m not you

[Miccro Mask]

Imagine being this arrogant while having a take this fucking bad and not even having the basic level of self awareness needed to be able to acknowledge your flaws and that you need to improve

[Miccro Mask]

now, I demonstrate the overreaction of miccro mask to eliminate any and all pressure on them. It mirrors my scum play in Nomination Mafia where I purposefully self voted out of fake frustration in order to manipulate Varsoon who was hard pushing me.

lol you were shit in nomination

I’m literally townresding you because it would actually be quite an impressive improvement here for you to be town based on that scumgame

[Miccro Mask]

now, I demonstrate the overreaction of miccro mask to eliminate any and all pressure on them. It mirrors my scum play in Nomination Mafia where I purposefully self voted out of fake frustration in order to manipulate Varsoon who was hard pushing me.

lol you were shit in nomination

I’m literally townresding you because it would actually be quite an impressive improvement here for you to be town based on that scumgame

[Miccro Mask]

now, I demonstrate the overreaction of miccro mask to eliminate any and all pressure on them. It mirrors my scum play in Nomination Mafia where I purposefully self voted out of fake frustration in order to manipulate Varsoon who was hard pushing me.

lol you were shit in nomination

I’m literally townresding you because it would actually be quite an impressive improvement here for you to be town based on that scumgame

[Miccro Mask]

Also actually get the fuck out of here calling this fake frustration? But I guess being able to read emotion vs faked emotion is another aspect of the game that you’re lacking any sort of skill in

[Miccro Mask]

now, I demonstrate the overreaction of miccro mask to eliminate any and all pressure on them. It mirrors my scum play in Nomination Mafia where I purposefully self voted out of fake frustration in order to manipulate Varsoon who was hard pushing me.

Also this is a dumb as fuck take considering that I’m not under pressure, I just have a moron flying around going bzzz bzzzz look how dumb my reads are

And everyone else telling you your read is bad

But again, you’re too arrogant to listen, and you’re too dumb at mafia to reevaluate

[Miccro Mask]

I think I’m like right on the edge of saying something bannable especially as I think I’m on a last warning so I’m stepping away

Your ability at mafia is fucking awful koba

[Miccro Mask]

for someone complaining about QoL you are pretty toxic to read DonC

I am highly triggered by arrogance and I knew this was a risk playing with koba which is why I suggested policying them

[Miccro Mask]

I suggest not to engage with DonC unless it is to Vote them.

lol, get fucked

[Miccro Mask]

For someone who supposedly has a lockscum read on me you’re doing a pretty shitty job of coming up with anything resembling a case

[Miccro Mask]

VOTE: dsjstr

[Miccro Mask]

I propose that we all just ignore koba for the rest of the game. That way we don’t have to waste an execution on a town slot, but we also don’t have to waste any time on someone incapable of bringing any value to a mafia game

[Miccro Mask]

Alternatively, I’m still fine policying koba and playing this game with a handicap

[Miccro Mask]

Yeah, but on the flip side I then get to laugh at them for both having trash reads and for getting policy-d for having trash reads, so I see a pretty big positive there

I also don’t have to put up with them being trash at the game anymore while talking horseshit about their entirely unproven ability and totally unfounded self confidence

[Miccro Mask]

perhaps consider that miccro's motivations are not town and that they know that if they entered a 1v1 with me they would not come out on top

Bring it the fuck on

[Miccro Mask]

Let me engage on a level with your posts that they deserve intellectually:

aga ada uba dada?

[Miccro Mask]

I would fucking wreck you like the fucking moron that you are just like I did when I wanted you executed in coalition and 3 town players instantly jumped at the call

[Miccro Mask]

I have been going on like half throttle thus far because I like the other people in this game but if you wanna go fucking bring your trash case right on

[Miccro Mask]

Also thank the mods that there are site rules in place that stop me verbally eviscerating you and bringing you to tears irl like the crybaby you are

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Crybaby who talks about 1v1ing but starts appealing to other players the second they come under any heat says what?

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Crybaby who apparently has a super strong sucmread but can’t build a case says what?

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I don’t mean reads heat I mean someone being honest with them about how incredibly bad their play is game after game

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And they need to hear it because if no one tells them that they have no skill and no idea what they’re doing then they’re never going to improve, they’re going to keep fucking up games and talking shit while acting like they’re gods gift to the game

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its actually rly great im ngl

is this breaking the rules/site rules? I assume there’s a reason why “foe” isn’t allowed in the play section of games?

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why is he appealing to other players then if its just you hurling personal insults at him about his play-skill?

Because they’re a child who can’t take it but wants to try and dish it out?

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perhaps consider that miccro's motivations are not town and that they know that if they entered a 1v1 with me they would not come out on top

Miccro if you're still talking about me, I have a script that has wipes all messages you have written <3 cheers

its actually rly great im ngl

It’s lowkey hilarious that all these posts exist in the same game

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“Yeah bro if you try to 1v1 me I’d come out on top, try me”

“Waaa waaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa i can’t take it I’m making a script to block their posts because they’re a big meanie “

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Sorry to everyone else. Hypocrisy and arrogance are huge triggers for me. I knew there was a risk of this going into the game from the previous game with koba in it but I was really hoping I’d be able to ignore it but I guess that wasn’t the case. I’m trying to get better on this but I, um, am not there yet

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You don’t seem that interested in talking to me duck, which is I guess kind of interesting

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I think you’ve actually been ignoring nearly all my posts

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Like what's actually worth reading?

Any post koba has made at all you can skip

All the posts where I’m just here to talk shit on koba

Pooky and dats may have some AI stuff in there

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I think you’ve actually been ignoring nearly all my posts

Which is like, interesting, but not necessarily scummy

I find it weird given that my entrance was a TR on you, and our reads have been very similar throughout

Plus I made a couple of posts specifically directed to you that you just, didn’t respond to

So yeah, weird

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Koba having trouble coming up with a case is a little bit scummy and my only real doubt there

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All the posts where I’m just here to talk shit on koba

you know the best way to show Koba you're right and he's wrong is to catch some scum and make them eat rope right? There's really no point shit-talking koba if you think he's town

Nah, there’s a lot of satisfaction for me personally in shittalking them

It will go up by about 100% post game too

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I think I've been kind of unengaging in general. Sorry. Did you want to talk?

Ehh, i don’t have anything particularly noteworthy to go on

Thoughts on dsjstr?

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I still think pooky is kinda scummy too, but not like to the extent that I want to execute him despite the claim

Your take on bugs is... interesting? Considering dats had a similar bugs!town read. I think I’m willing to provisionally say that executing there might be bad today. I really just wanna get this dsjstr flip done and then sort in like (bugs, aldus, skitt)

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koba's case for you being scum is in this post

That’s not a case lmao

I’m talking abut the big “i’M mAkiNg a CaSe oN MicCrO mAsK eVeRyOnE” case that they keep talking about

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I think I've been kind of unengaging in general. Sorry. Did you want to talk?

Ehh, i don’t have anything particularly noteworthy to go on

Thoughts on dsjstr?

dsj's reads are superficially Wolfy
dsj's reads are usually superficially Wolfy

I'm kinda waiting for them to do something

Pooky's tr on dsj feels like, an actual thought and it should be telling me something. but I don't know what I should be divining from it.

wbu



pedit: Fuji apples are scum apples.

My thoughts are basically: enough people have done things that I think make them town that I just wanna use PoE and flip slots that don’t make me feel that way

Dsjstr is a slot very much in that category of “has not made me feel that way”

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its not completely implausible that DonC is just too rage-mad at you that he can't do any actual scumhunting so I want to see if we can re-direct his energy off the "lets just policy kill koba" thing and do some useful stuff cuz I can at least get a better read on him when he's

trying

to find scum. I think I have a pretty good handle on his thought process from when he was playing coalition.

Nah, it’s more like I already have done my townhunting and am basically ready to end the day once skitter and datisi chime in again

Given that I’ve already done that, and nothing is happening/has happened to significantly affect my TRs, I just want to get a flip outside them and proceed into D2

Like I’ve increasingly realised that in this site there is a fetishisation of “using the entire day” that’s just like, often very unnecessary

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i made you an avi if u want it

I LOVE IT

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Someone tell koba that dsjstr is at E-2

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Also mention that they’re an idiot

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enough people have done things that I think make them town that I just wanna use PoE and flip slots that don’t make me feel that way

Elimination by PoE is a pretty good way to end up mislynching townies that aren't playing well and not as useful for catching scum imo.

I think your aggro playstyle in coalition was a lot more protown and easier to follow.

Unfortunately for you, I don’t play the same way every game

Also we literally lost the game from that lol

I generally adapt how I’m playing to the circumstances and this feels like a PoE type of game because it has a sufficient number of players capable of towntelling

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I think I have a pretty good handle on his thought process from when he was playing coalition.

I am legit very interested to see if this turns out to be right though. I feel very few people on site have this

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I happen to not be here but this isnt a good reason to tr me

At this point you could claim scum and I wouldn’t believe you

Pooky is going to get a very rude awakening at some point

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"omg why am i getting townread omg"

"ive done this as scum"



shut up lmao. ur oozing self consciousness

Skitt do u get me now on why I find this *gestures vaguely* so fucking annoying

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So if I spam “koba is a moron” often enough they’ll see it? Cool

I’m actually feeling more chill now, got the venting done and now it’s out

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I happen to not be here but this isnt a good reason to tr me

At this point you could claim scum and I wouldn’t believe you

Pooky is going to get a very rude awakening at some point

Not this game tho

Lightly agree yeah

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tw, I’m not asking you to take a guess but do you genuinely not have any idea who I am?

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I think the quote you pulled looks bad on its own but is better holistically given everything else I’ve said about you thus far this game

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Imagine being so arrogant as to think you’re just going to decide to solve skitter D1 when literally the paragon winner from last year was unable to do that in team mafia this year, with another paragon winner in his team to help him

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Can someone point out to koba in words kinder than the ones that I would use that (1) no-one is avoiding sorting skitter out of fear (2) that he’s not good enough to read her at this point in the game anyway (3) that his attempt and failure to do so is just gong to make the game more unpleasant to read for literally everyone for the third time (4) if skitter starts to get annoyed by being shitpushed and disengages we lose a very valuable scumhunter, or at least her effectiveness probably diminishes

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Probably don’t tell them that any of that came from me tho, just frame it as your own stuff

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I think the inclusion in that bracket is probably fine, it sometimes takes him a while to get a good bead on me but he's p good at reading me

specifically you get actively annoyed by a lack of read on you and I feel like it takes a less guilty mindset to include you in the same bracket as Aldus/bugs? if I was scum writing that post I feel like I'd feel like I was waving a red flag.

I don’t really understand this post

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Imagine being so arrogant as to think you’re just going to decide to solve skitter D1 when literally the paragon winner from last year was unable to do that in team mafia this year, with another paragon winner in his team to help him

Rc + nsg + tw + eddie + ank

Were all townreading me at the same time
T'was a proud moment

I don’t know Eddie other than someone thought I was possibly an alt of him once on a different alt account, but the other names are certainly a very impressive roster

Idk if I ever actually congratulated you on that TM win, if I didn’t then, well, I’m doing it now

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Hmmm i still unsure where to vote

a gust of wind blows past, and whispers *dsjstr* as it drifts over you

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lol

If it’s legit just flip dsjstr -> aldus -> bugs and it should be good

Obviously check pooky if you’re investigative and he’s not dead

Datisi just town

Skitter and the duck are pretty town but I’ve been slightly exaggerating on both of them because while I think they’re town I also think they’re both more easily sortable on not D1

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As in, I think if the my scumpool is wrong and pooky is town, there’s probably 1 scum in ducky/skitt but it didn’t seem like it should be worried about until after we’d worked through the pool

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Koba really is just a gigantic asshole who’s really shit at the scumhunting part of mafia but who can town tell pretty effectively and who I think has a noticeably worse looking scumgame vs towngame from what I’ve seen

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I mean yeah, I strongly suspect bullshit here but on the off chance it’s not I’m gonna have to go soon and wanted to get my last reads out in a serious way

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I can only pray that koba keeps to their word and deletes their account once I flip town if it’s true

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Koba really is just a gigantic asshole who’s really shit at the scumhunting part of mafia but who can town tell pretty effectively and who I think has a noticeably worse looking scumgame vs towngame from what I’ve seen

lol nomination mafia i just panicked. my scumgame is v good and my only other scum game was avalon mafia ( which is eligible for this game ) , which i myself won by correctly getting the merlin correct.

*yawn*

Your scumgame is shit, get over yourself

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is there a game with a scum dayvig?

last will miccro mask? if you're actually town I promise to carry and win this for your spirit

Are you reading or?

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I dont like the shot tho

Awful, awful shot but it’s not surprising given everything about them

Please listen to me and just flip dsjstr first

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Basically I just think their iso is super devoid of anything m
Ducky did have a slightly weird defendy thing there so if it’s not aldus you may well be right (again, if pooky not lying and you’re confident on bugs)
Plus a bad entry
Bad doubledown which I can see them sheeping koba thinking they’ll get play because they probably do when they play in newbies or with weak PLs and that he could sheep it
Townreading basicalt every other slot in the game more

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Same

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Ducky did

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I think my main last will, as far as it goes, is that koba be ignored literally as much as possible and the game still be functional

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.... my wincon has a little dude at the end which makes me think we're more likely to have a vig

Wut

Wat

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...how is that different to in any normal game?

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Ta you didn’t answer my question

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Tw*

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tw, I’m not asking you to take a guess but do you genuinely not have any idea who I am?

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Okay, the duck is maybe actually a bit suspicious, I’ll grant you that skitt

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Yeah, I’m saying I think this is a bit suspicious because I lowkey think it’s incredibly obvious to you specifically so I think you saying you have no idea is a bit whack but would fit with how you might want to be seen by both skitter and datisi who have revealed that they know who my main is even though neither has outed me

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And like the fact that you ignored me making a jokey post about it shortly after I entered when I was trying to engage you fits with that feeling I think

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Okay I think I retract my TR on ducky but I think we’re still okay to be almost mechwinning even with koba wasting their shot

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I'm like, increasingly-strongly against alt hunting

I believe this but still think it’s odd that you would not have even involuntarily had a thought of who I might be

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Yeah, I’m saying I think this is a bit suspicious because I lowkey think it’s incredibly obvious to you specifically so I think you saying you have no idea is a bit whack but would fit with how you might want to be seen by both skitter and datisi who have revealed that they know who my main is even though neither has outed me

Hmmm? I'm not sure where you're going here

I think that if ducky figured out who I was, I don’t see why town!ducky would be... reticent about it and not joke around or play with it

Whereas I think there are definite benefits to scum!ducky who’s figured out my main continuing to treat me as if he doesn’t know who I might be

If I hadn’t done things that I thought were very characteristic of me, I would be worrying about this, but I think I have, and so ducky claiming he has *no idea* who I might be, even though I believe he’s not trying to figure it out, pings m

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He is still like my least preferred flip tho skitt, so if you could go somewhere else that would be appreciated

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blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah

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we can have a cup of coffee and talk about this postgame.

Okay, that works

Sorry if I’m being paranoid for something NAI from you!

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blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah

blah blah! Blah blah blah. Blah? Blah blah blah blah

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r we supposed to care about who you really are

is this like some type of Undercover Boss thing

Literally no one other than the duck tbh

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blah, blah blah blah blah blah; blah blah blah. Blah: blah blah blah! Blah blah? Blah!

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He is still like my least preferred flip tho skitt, so if you could go somewhere else that would be appreciated

I'm not sure where else to vote rn

Wind blows past again

Dsjstr

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...and pooky the claimed PR?

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blah, blah blah blah blah blah; blah blah blah. Blah: blah blah blah! Blah blah? Blah!

Blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah

Blah:

(1) blah blah blah, blah blah

(2) blah blah blah blah! Blah blah!

(3)blah-blah? Blah blah; blah blah blah

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...and pooky the claimed PR?

Actually pooky has been pretty ehh so maybe you two are on like the same level

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Pooky claimed pr?

Yes, but didn’t specify what

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if only i woke up half an hour earlier...

I will ask again because you ignored me. Is that a signal u want to hammer me if I’m get to L-1? Cuz I’m not a vanilla townie. I have a pretty decent role and I will claim it if I have to but I’d rather not let scum know what it is.

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Way ahead of you

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blahity blah blah blah

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blah blah blah blah?

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Fun fact, every koba quote I do has the same amount of valuable content as the original!

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blah blah! Blah blah blah



Blah.

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ya plz stop with the blah thing

I’ll think about it for you

Rn I don’t really want to

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Ty

Pedit i said i skimmed like 25 pages. I made it p clear i didnt read everything

I think i'm content with my tw vote for rn

Pedit again: ya plz stop with the blah thing

If I said I felt like you were maybe capitalising on the situation to eliminate someone I think is most likely town, what would you say?

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words, stupid stupid words

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moronic take

Moronic take 2

Wildly fabricate statistic regarding probability

More idiot words

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A) i wasnt aware you were townreading him
B) this isnt going anywhere near an elim at this point in the game, and i'm not particularly expecting it to, i'm just making my thoughts known

Skitt, my very opening post was a TR on him? Idk why that would have changed? And I’m p sure you’re aware of that because you called me out on it for being hollow-y or something

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unfounded arrogance

inability to stfu

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Pooky I stg you’re not reading my posts anyway

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If you were, or if you’d bothered to go back and look at my last will post that wasn’t just me memeing on koba, you’d know that aldus is like second in my proposed elim chain

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yeah im logging off untul micc comes back im not dealing with this childish behavior.

Good riddance to bad rubbish

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Christ, that’s what the smell was stinking the place up

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You just said you get why i'm scumreading him?

I’m not sure I do/did?

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I became uneasy about him, the reasons for that were very personal to me, so I doubt they be why you’re scumreading him

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If you were, or if you’d bothered to go back and look at my last will post that wasn’t just me memeing on koba, you’d know that aldus is like second in my proposed elim chain

yea I saw your last will but I'm not sure why aldus isn't first cuz it's not like we're gonna follow your last will to the letter =]

Because I really just wanna flip dsjstr and aldus has the benefit of the doubt over him because I liked his opening tone?

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Okay I think I retract my TR on ducky but I think we’re still okay to be almost mechwinning even with koba wasting their shot

Yes, but again, reasons very personal to me

Why do you scumread him again?

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In what sort of way?

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skitter can u point to any posts that make u feel uneasy wrt TW

I thought you were getting to the fucking, but more importantly the offing?

Eh doesn’t matter that much I actually gotta shoot

There are mild things that have concerned me about duck and skitter from the last few pages but nothing to fundamentally shift me on either

Never kill datisi

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I’m caught up

Still wanna flip dsjstr

I see a lot of discussion on whether I faked my reaction to the dayvig shot or not, so to clarify:

I thought the dayvig shot was probably not real, because I don’t see how a 9p would be balanced with a dayvig; but koba had softed dayvig stuff earlier on, and while I put the percentage chance of it being real pretty low, if it *was* real then it was important to get my final reads out and I had enough uncertainty about it being real that doing that as insurance seemed like the best option

I also kind of started to believe it more as it went on because I thought koba had gone beyond the bit where it would be a reaction test, like when they got super pissy about me “blah blah”ing every post they were making

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Datisi, I like ur new avi

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Ur welcome

I kind of think maybe I recognise it...

Also, can we flip dsjstr now?

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I feel like the game is stalling on this for no reason

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Not interested in flipping datisi ever probably
Not interested in flipping skitter or the duck today
Not interested in flipping koba if we’re basing it on alignments

Interested in flipping pooky but won’t because of claim
Not interested in flipping bugs as dats and the duck think they could be town

Okay with flipping Aldus I guess and could compromise there

Interested in flipping dsjstr

I sort of don’t think any of the first six names or myself are very likely to be flipped today, I’d like to just proceed with the game, which means we flip aldus or dsjstr

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There is like, a totally unwarranted resistance to flipping dsjstr because he is LHF and I just, question the motivations for this when that seems to be a significant component of why people don’t want him flipped