Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

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VOTE: teacher

give in to temptation

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ndmath, shall we do battle?

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if i didn’t out that one i would have had to sacrifice this one!!! i’m a baby at managing games

also bob is stretching but it’s prob w good intentions

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outing something that specific so early feels like it’s limiting options early on which scum would prooooobably not wanna do rn

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kerset please keep me safe

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i think iv is scared of us forming a townblock

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i will attest to the fact i am not nervous and instead vibing

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o i missed it mobile is a fiend

+ ya scum could give reads too but it feels too like specific 2 me in a way that i don't think scum would be

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can you reword the second part of that post im trying to follow it and it feels a bit like word salad rn ):

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VOTE: plusjoyed

'as long as teacher doesn't trip any big scumtells' doesn't sit right w me + the second part of it feels over-explainy

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can you reword the second part of that post im trying to follow it and it feels a bit like word salad rn ):

im basically just asking why you think scum wouldn’t point out “specific things” early on

your justification of “because it limits their options” felt shaky to me because I don’t think pointing out specific things “limits their options” more than any normal read

hopefully that makes a little more sense sorry I word vomit a lot

no i'm just tired it's np !

i think that it's possible scum can do it + probably do but i'd be self-conscious at least to post something like that esp this early on where it was indicating as stretching for something (which fmpov implies a certain amount of like... skepticism). the post was very odd (in a good way) 2 me in that it was like 'ok, this is how this situation exactly pans out' + paired with some explanation a few posts later with a confidence that i couldn't pull off as scum

i think too that scum probably do want the early credit that comes w gamesolving by being the first to point out little oddities/assign reads but in this instance i don't think that's the case

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it's connected in my head but i don't think ur getting anything better than the last post from me abt it

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hi teacher

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no i just wanted to say hi

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I don't think there's much else IV could have done to convince me he's scum for an experienced slot at least. Like 75% sure he's some kind of jester or scum. That's high enough for me to entertain a tunnel on him.

i hope you know that picking 'entertained' to use here gave me a very good laugh not even for game reasons it just reads as very funny

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i'd like to petition iv to be an honorary mason and exempt from any elims

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do you think datisi would be mad if i posted more cursed images

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shelly

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shelly is a pure soul

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Ydrasse is a pure soul

p-edit STOP POSTING SO MUCH

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everyone needs to calm down i can't keep up

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everyone needs to calm down i can't keep up

anD WHOSE PROBLEM IS THAT, NOW

DON'T YELL AT ME?

[Ydrasse]

i have room in my pockets for everyone

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vienna is a fan favorite to my family but i dont think i've ever heard them listen to a single other billy joel song

also pls not kerset

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that's understandable i will enjoy the game as i live and breathe

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saudade i admire you

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okay!

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kerset who is your heart telling you is scum

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i got too tired to keep up the pace

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plusjoyed, could you link me to a town game + a scum game, please?

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PlusJoy attacking IV yet IV returning a TR on PlusJoy doesn't feel great

IV TMI-ing knowing plus is town and IV is scum?

IV is looking scummier by the minute I do not like 276

"shouldn't be discussed in full" why are you hiding info from us?

what about iv returning the townread 'doesn't feel great'? is iv obligated to scumread plusjoy by virtue of plusjoy's scumread?

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also, shelly, you've had iv as a townread for the majority of the day so far; what was the turning point for you, so to speak, to move away from that?

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HAH. mine.

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Who loves readlists? I do!

kerset: Shitposter, which is NAI. My gut says they are town though but not a lot to go on; I feel like scum would be more self aware and worried about being SR'd from shitposting, and the mason thing might be a unique way of rvs 3 other players to see reactions. TR.

Ydrasse: Mild scumtell mainly from gut but it's getting weaker as time passes, would vote over other TR but mostly null at this point. Their posts seem NAI though #49 was pretty townie. Null atm.

Andres: null, only posted once

Saudade: feels kinda scummy, especially his entrance and making an excuse to lurk like IV said, but it could just be his personality. His kerset attack seems really random and feels mildly scummy overall. SR.

Shellyc: Feels like her scumgame but it could also be recentcy bias so idk. I'd like to look a townie game from here actually, since they have q knack for appearing townie as scum naturally. Leaning null for now.

bob: Town read actually. His opener is pretty wack and that logic seems strange but I think he believes it. going against the grain and taking a risk/getting discussion going is townie as heck. TR

teacher: kinda ignored their early wagon which is a lil weird. I'm glad he's calling out IV but honestly NAI at this point. The
vote at #90 seems so late and doesn't make sense. null for now

Menal: Why are they handing out TR/pockets so much? Seem self aware too. But I don't think a scum menal would throw pockets that much and be open about it, so I TR them.

IV: total scumbucket. I'll do a full casing later. I'm aware this tunnel without explanation is sus from me but idc. I want him to lower his guard first and hit him with a big list later on. SR

Taylor swift; agreeable lurker. Minor SR but need more to go off of. They've seem to have gone largely unnoticed so I'd like someone to pressure them at some point. SR overall

NDMath: null, only posted once

osuka: also going against IV without much explanation, most of his posts are about IV and I don't think he's trying to pocket me either since we expressed a SR on IV around the same time. Null for now

current SR is IV > Taylor > saudade

i actually found the one? game i think you've completed on here and am working off that information.

as town you seemed content to say 'idk' a lot regarding slots when you outted an initial reads list in that previous game, with more content in that one to boot. here, it feels like you're trying to fill up space with words that you really don't need to like you did in that post that pushed me to vote you.

do you feel nervous this game at all, or are you trying to put to use somehow the experience you've had to post more informed reads...? i admittedly get a sense of unsureness from this that feels like you're trying not to commit too much to things/not rock the boat (lil weird, kinda scummy, etc).

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i feel like 5 years is probably too much to get anything from, at least for me; i did find that game though!

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my point was that yeah, it was only page 10 and you were saying a lot for a game that had relatively little, whereas in that newbie game you were content to say 'idk' towards slots rather than here where it's all prettied up with extra words.

even now you're doing it; "as town i don't know who the scum are" is an... obvious thing for us all? :>

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okay. can you explain to me what your scumtells are?

p-edit: this game has been chaotic in a good way, i think.

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If someone scumcases me I am compelled to defend myself and/or point out the flaws in the person making the case

despite being SR by town!plusjoy scum!IV instead attempts to pocket them in order to convince plusjoy to get off them

...where is the pocketing happening though? iv outted a townread on plusjoyed and that's... about it? just because

you

would do something doesn't mean that someone else is going to react the same way.

you also seem very sure of this narrative. :<

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also, shelly, you've had iv as a townread for the majority of the day so far; what was the turning point for you, so to speak, to move away from that?

Around post 154 I began backtracking

then why did you say that iv's vibe in 228 was town? granted you say that 154 was 'cheesy' but that doesn't really imply much of a sr.

in 235 and 237 you affirm the iv townread again.

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VOTE: shellyc

i'm not buying this, sorry.

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the posts were before your reread, but you also just said you were already in the process of reconsidering things again as of 154.

again, you're also projecting /your/ playstyle onto someone else.

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alright, then.

and also i think so, personally; you're not accounting for the different ways that someone might want to play as town/scum and it narrows down the ways you might read them. it's fine to borrow and compare from your own experiences but iv is an entirely different player.

if you could, could you try to explain what you think iv gains from this playstyle if iv is scum?

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where is there wifom...???

also i'm from 2020, too.

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also, i'll go through your completed games in full tomorrow, i'm too tired for that rn.

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mena your vibes feel off....... are you scum?

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you didn’t pass the vibe check

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mutual!

walk me through your two top scumreads?

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plus you are a treasure chest full of confusion

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i think it’d be nice if taylor actually posted a few thoughts/reads + i also don’t know if they’re the type of person who would like. respond to pressure at all

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UNVOTE:

i was mulling over it earlier and i am okay with how shelly responded to me last night

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also reading back i like teachers entrance

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sorry teacher :c ill try to slow it down a bit more

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i’m having fun and i’m in a good mood

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also for the most part my scumpool are ppl in the lower half of post count. much to think about

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you better pick a good series to rip one from or i’m voting u out

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that’s fair @mena but i also don’t know what else to tell you here ?? i’m just having a good time [+ i’m actually making efforts to do things this game and solve/etc which is bc i rolled town]

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saudade what if i told you it’s non-weeb and it’s full blooded american video game instead

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kerset is my protector this game

albeit very unimpressive

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i don’t think kersets posted much that i can take a hard stance on but i’d like to understand the teacher vibe because my heart says teacher is town

also i’ve only seen one kerset game and it was scum but they repped in and didn’t get to rvs so i don’t have a baseline to go off of here

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@mena ur not bringing my mood down and i get it. one of these days i’ll come into a game super mean just to assure an anti-pocketing strategy

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plus your avatar is making me uncomfortable

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also expect even less from me until i’m home again

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Can we appreciate the way Ydra never dodges anything? Player, which knows that she is bad as mafia, stays here all the time to give us the highest possible amount of intel about herself. As scum she would run away at some point.

(๑◕︵◕๑) i’ll be better at scum one day

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they said they’d be here later tho? so long as it doesn’t become a pattern i think that at least kerset offered a handful of reads + there are some people too that need to pipe up

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just realized i confused kerset and taylor earlier

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i see datisi is lurking

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i'm going to post cursed images and take over as mod of this game

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i was mulling over it earlier and i am okay with how shelly responded to me last night

????? what makes you think that?!

the way u replied when i placed my vote seemed very unbothered and i'm fine w it

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O:

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oh and i promised to vote, so VOTE: iv

i like that you're joining my wagon but that doesn't earn you any townpoints with me

so do you think ts is bussing iv then or what

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plus, what’s making you less sure?

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scum ydrasse could probably do it now that she’s learned a bit more about playing scum

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but that might be a bit too much faith

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saudade please don’t yell at me i’m fragile and you’ve shattered my self confidence so the answer is no

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loud words on screen hurt me

1 win 1 loss so far i think

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i shall take this victory w pride

probably town based on the kerset push + general vibe. i’m on mobile so if you need more on that you’re gonna have 2 wait

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why’s that plus?

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also andre is town btw

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i don’t think that is particularly strong setup spec and you should probably judge things as they are by their posting

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is bob your strongest tr based off of that opening alone?

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What grain was Bob fighting against with stating "osuka and ydrasse are [probably] not both scum"?

i know that iv and i talked early on abt bob but the way ndmath put it helped me to recontextualize

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i think that the odds of plusjoyed being scum have dwindled as they posted if only like... the confidence with which they post things that honestly don't make sense (at least 2 me) has to be towny, right?

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i feel like taylor is mafia the scum have given up on them

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*if taylor is mafia

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@773 - Thats still a degree of familiarity I would expect to require actual shared history -- especially remembering to play it back pages later. I'll let it pass though, unless you have something more to say on it.

oh! kerset repped in to a scum slot in a game where i was also scum and nearly won it for us c: that's why i replied how i did

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: osuka

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ppl i don't wanna vote rn:

iv, andres, mena, shelly, saud, teacher, ndmath

ppl i'm fine w voting right now:

osuka, bob, plus, swift, kerset

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swift/kerset/teacher/nd are the least stable of this sorting.

swift hasn't had a lot of defence that i can remember + i dunno if they're actually scum and i'm worrying over nothing or not.

kerset hasn't contributed too much but i very much like kerset's attitude/vibe this game too despite pushback from some ppl.

teacher is at the bottom of my townreads but the last few posts have been good so maybe we shall find Peace and Stability in time with this read.

ndmath has barely posted but i liked that one line.

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also osuka's iso just... isn't great. not a lot contributed there but potshots taken at some posts; the difference for me in comparison to someone like kerset is that i find myself liking the general ~feeling~ of kerset's posts more than i do osuka's. so ya.

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bob is easier to explain: he had a start to the game i liked but then just... dropped out it seems like, presence-wise which baffles me. also i like that post i quoted from ndmath which disarmed my reason to like his opening as much as i did. maybe i just miss him and want him to come back and tell me he's town so i can trust him......

iv in general just... is towny to me? i don't see the scumslips that other people are saying they seeing and instead see an effort to talk to people and solve. the interaction that we had early game set me on the path to tring him and from there i haven't doubted it from his posting.

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what do you think of the people voting/scumreading you right now, taylor?

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meaning you get a better feeling from osuka?

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):

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saudade i need you to know that that was not in fact a serious ): nor was i serious about loud words earlier

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osuka’s vote lingering on kerset for Joke reasons makes me leery for some reason

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might i beseech you for a post with your general reads rn

p-edit: it’s a full time job if you play your cards right

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from looking at the post where osuka voted yes

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townread me and i’ll vote kerset w you

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i’ll take it

VOTE: kerset

that’s.... 4 i think on kerset right now

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for taylor idk if she’s scum but she’s a really easy vote for ppl right now + the lack of resistance as a whole towards her makes me fret

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for the comedic relief of asking to be townread

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also i think that given the similarities btwn osuka and kerset osuka also probably wouldn’t respond much to a vote + i’d rather accomplish something so kerset isn’t terrible even if they’re not my first pick

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Vote count 1.10

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-09-18 21:30:00).

execution

Tayl0r Swift [3]:

shellyc, NDMath, Menalque

innocentvillager [3]:

PlusJOYED, Kerset, Tayl0r Swift

Kerset [2]:

Saudade, osuka

teacher [1]:

innocentvillager

NDMath [1]:

bob3141

Menalque [1]:

teacher

plusJOYED [1]:

Andresvmb

Not Voting [1]:

Ydrasse

mod notes

~ there have been no vote changes, i just like to show flavour off.

flavour

like this vc is a mess

[Ydrasse]

iv / mena can share that spot but andres is on the prowl to take it

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to be a contrarian

i verbalized it a bit ago but we started off on the right foot in the game (at least for me) and i get the feeling that he’s trying to solve from a genuine place with a bit of lightheartedness here and there. he’s easier to read for me than some ppl in this game it feels like but i haven’t seen anything from him egregious enough to question my trust yet

i’ll probably end up fact checking against the game we played together at some point

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i’m on mobile don’t pressure me

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thank you for this blessing

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so, shelly, who’s the maf bussing taylor?

you’re one of three votes on taylor as of that vc so pick wisely

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osuka give me a sign that you’re town

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+ teacher voted taylor i just realized

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okay, so which one of those two do you think is scum then?

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shelly i gotta admit 841 feels like deflection

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are you mad at us shelly

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osuka give me a sign that you’re town

i dont ever really give signs of my alignment, why would i start now

Spoiler:

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shelly i gotta admit 841 feels like deflection

how in the world does it sound like deflection

you were being questioned about something and then posted about how someone else was scummy

shelly i know you know this!!

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the low quality gives it character. the high quality images on my phone are too scary for this thread

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@andre why the kerset part?

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shelly you have finished quite a few games now and i have faith in you.

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ty @andre

also shelly then what do you feel is the likeliest possibility rn

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mena didn’t explain the difference btwn kerset and taylor from what i can find?

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summoning the energy to towntell

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Bc I think there is one and it’s why I think kerset is null and t-swizzle is scummy

mena when ur around again could you explain this take

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the two wagons atm are kerset/taylor with 4 each

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i miss bob and ndmath

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osuka did not seem terribly forthright and i was too tired to wrassle

osuka, thoughts on taylor?

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also give me ur strong trs if u have em

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farewell brave soldier

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thank u

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goodnight strong fighter

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i say good night to all the homies but no one is there when i need it... i’m a martyr

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hi

i wasn't feeling mafia today but glad to see the town is powering on bravely

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i hope that is a compliment

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teacher, can you explain your bob read to me/link where you have if you have already?

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can you try to explain the vibes for me?

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so we have thoughts on taylor -> kerset but what are kerset's thoughts on taylor

i'm playing animal crossing and might have asked this before so sorry if that's the case but i would like a rehash

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good evening town

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depends on what it is

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i'm not great at reaping the sweet rewards that are meta from games but i'll try

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osuka pls we pointed that out so long ago

also those games town!kerset definitely has a different energy than this game but it's hard to compare something that long ago. uh.

i don't know what to make of kerset given the one game i saw them that was recent they were scum and also came out swinging, pretty strong, with their claim and their investment in trying to win. i dunno if they're burned out on scum after that or just... vibing being town. it's ~different~ but i genuinely don't know how to take it. i would think that town kerset would want to be more engaged this time around, esp given the circumstances of that last game?

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i wish plusjoyed was around

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i wish plusjoyed was around

is ydrasse currently TR'ing plusjoy?

cause I remember ydra scumleaned plus some time ago

no i'm not

[Ydrasse]

shelly, how is it tmi?

is everyone who calls/implies that you're town scum?

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this game is making my head hurt a bit everytime i check it ngl

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plus doesn't make sense to me at all and i wanted to vote them again but they're v/la so it wouldn't even do anything

iv if you're scum i'm gonna be very sad postgame

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what do you think about kerset's reasons/defense of my towniness

and effort in general considering the last game we all shared

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yes and my reading comprehension isn't the best

...do you think that the odds are then this is just his towngame

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because i am starting to think that kerset may just be in fact town

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i believe that iv is town this game but i also still haven't went back to reread that last town game

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somehow i don't think you adopted us all

i feel like we talked about kerset a lot, some votes shifted on and off, some quiet slots came back to talk more

no i don't remember if anything worthwhile came out of it

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it is rather cute...

i'm having a tough time figuring out like. what kerset gets out of this as mafia. yknow acting like he is.

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it doesn't make sense as anything to me

also the fact that the one game i've seen recently of them was like... the opposite of this

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yeah.

the lack of motivation here, relatively, is ??? to me.

i wonder if kerset only gets motivated when he feels like he has to be or else it'll be a loss?

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plus doesn't make sense to me at all and i wanted to vote them again but they're v/la so it wouldn't even do anything

iv if you're scum i'm gonna be very sad postgame

what am i doing that doesn't make sense?

Existing

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that sounded mean but i just meant idk who or what you are this game

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i did not want plus to think that was a personal jab

just a game jab

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so how's everyone's night going

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if i don't do it tonight in a bit i'll do it tmrw after work @osuka

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i will be sending you good vibes osuka

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please explain those scumreads to me, plus.

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but... but you just said teacher was shady.

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i am too tired to make sense of you guys rn

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what in their iso is Bad

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please explain for the class

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that isn’t gonna work plus. quote where and explain.

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also plus has made me go !? often this game so

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plus, could you give me some examples of what of teacher’s posting is bad?

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oh you’re at work?

ok can you quote some of it maybe when you’re at home?

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Spoiler:

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why did you guys all vanish as soon as i was going into work i need something to read while i’m there

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...huh?

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plus come back that was especially cryptic

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it is still cryptic yes

and yeah this is... a weird turn of events. i appreciate you asking nicely to move my vote but plus you’re neither a townread of mine nor are you giving me reason that i should move my vote other than what your reads are, especially the kerset one since i don’t know why you tr kerset right now?

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i’m gonna start bashing kersets avi to compensate for this game

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i actually don’t think plus’s point about scum osuka/teacher is as bad as i thought it was rereading it

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like it’s a bit weird but i don’t think it’s as scummy as them trying to dismantle the kerset wagon?

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yeah i don’t disagree regarding plus. i just think i was cranky this morning and i was instantly like You Are Pure Evil to them

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no more logic

only vibes

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i’m only going to tr people who are nice to me

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you’re worrying me

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or is it

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why do you all stop posting when i don’t have customers

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kerset hammered

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don’t let anyone stop you iv

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you were not strong enough to defeat this wagon plus

also mena i’m filing for emancipation after that one

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oh, it wasn’t a hammer?

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kerset, are you hardclaiming doc?

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get them datisi

also kerset i didn’t pick up on that crumb at all i’m sorry

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UNVOTE:

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i’ll try to reread properly when i’m home :<

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STOP SAYING TBAT PHRASE

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also....

iv. say it ain’t so

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iv, can you explain what you were thinking in 1518/why you’d want to post it like that?

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what part of your mind thinks “yes i must publicly announce that i shall do a bit” right where kerset can see???

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VOTE: iv

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Fuck yeah my page top

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UNVOTE:

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fine. let’s see what everyone else thinks.

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iv is at l-2 right now

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i genuinely can not fathom 1518 and i’m trying. like.

did you think it’d be a funny haha moment for us? i just don’t get it

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and i feel like you being frantic rn is because you got caught out for something silly and don’t have any rebuttal to it