Newbie 2033: Borkdörkjello - Game Over

[borkjerfkin]

Newbie 2033: Borkdörkjello

Flavor:

Spoiler:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Player List:

1. Alonzo (SE)
2. Adorable

arachnidsGrip

3. cw357
4. DkKoba (SE)
5. notscience

n3xell

6. petapan

Dongempire piisirrational

7. Rannygazoo
8. Sesq (SE)
9. JDye

ziilos

Alive:

Spoiler:

5. notscience,

Mafia Goon

Dead:

Spoiler:

8. Sesq,

Vanilla Townie,

was eliminated Day 1.

4. DkKoba,

Town Jailkeeper,

was killed Night 1.

6. petapan,

Mafia Roleblocker,

was eliminated Day 2.

7. Rannygazoo,

Town Tracker,

was killed Night 2.

1. Alonzo,

Vanilla Townie,

was eliminated Day 3.

2. Adorable,

Vanilla Townie,

was killed Night 3.

9. JDye,

Vanilla Townie,

was eliminated Day 4.

3. cw357,

Vanilla Townie,

was endgamed Day 4.

Events:

Spoiler:

Day 1 elimination
Day 2 elimination
Day 3 elimination
Game Over

[borkjerfkin]

Rules

General

1. Site-wide rules, as always, apply here.
   
2. I reserve the right to change any of the following rules at any time. I will also inform the players in thread and via PM in the unlikely scenario in which this is required.
   
3. This list is not necessarily all-inclusive. If you're unsure whether or not something is allowed, please PM me about it.
   
4. Disregarding the rules may result in consequences up to and including modkill and/or force-replacement.
   
5. There is to be NO PRIVATE OR OUTSIDE OF THREAD COMMUNICATION WITH OTHER PLAYERS IN THIS GAME ABOUT THIS GAME AT ANY TIME
   
   
6. If you need to talk to me in thread,
   please use bold.
   Additionally, feel free to PM me with any questions you might have.
   
7. Please do not use hidden or encrypted text.
   
8. Play to win.
   
9. Please treat your fellow players with respect. At the same time, please try not to take comments personally whenever possible.
   
10. Please allow for your fellow players to go V/LA.
    
11. Please keep me in the loop about your own V/LA status.
    
12. Purple is my color. Please do not use purple.
    
    
13. Have Fun!

Gameplay

1. The following vote formats are the de-facto standard on the site (aka votes should be enclosed with vote tags or bold tags. I don't care about caps/spelling/etc.)
   • VOTE: borkjerfkin
     
   • Vote: borkjerfkin
2. UNVOTE: /
   unvote
   declarations are valid to remove your vote, but are
   not
   required in order to change it.
   
3. If it appears to be a vote for a player, I will treat it as a vote for a player. Please don't attempt to fool me or other players with regard to fake votes. Do not put votes in spoiler tags.
   
4. An
   elimination
   is achieved when half plus one of the current number of living players are voting for the same player. If this does not occur by deadline, a No Elimination will occur -- there is no plurality elimination in this game.
   
5. Twilight is the time between the 'hammer' vote being cast and the beginning of the night phase. All living players, including the most recent elimination, may talk during this time.
   
6. Players' alignments will be revealed on death.
   
7. When killed, a player may make one informationless 'bah' post at the beginning of the next day phase and must be silent thereon until the conclusion of the game.
   
8. Please submit all night actions either via your private topic if you have one, or by PM if you do not.
   
9. If you have a night action and do not submit one, you will not take an action. I will not resolve your action on a random person.
   
10. Player List is ordered alphabetically by the initial players' names.
    
11. Role distribution is guaranteed to be random, determined with the aid of random.org

Deadlines

1. Day 1 will be exactly 10 days long. All further days will be seven (7) days long. Extensions may be granted at my discretion for what I feel are extenuating circumstances.
   
2. Nights will be exactly two days (48 hours) long.
   
3. Players will be given 48 hours to initially pick up role PMs, or they will be replaced.
   
4. Players will be prodded after 36 hours of inactivity during the day, excepting V/LA circumstances.
   
5. Failure to pick up a prod in 24 hours will result in replacement. Asking for replacement will result in replacement.

SE Guidelines

The purpose of the SE (Semi-Experienced) players in this game is to help newbies understand how the game is played on mafiascum.net. If you have any questions about abbreviations, etiquette, mafia theory, etc., do not hesitate to ask. Newbie games are meant to be educational.

[borkjerfkin]

Setup

This game uses the NewD3 setup.

One of the nine following setups will be generated (each is based on listed "special roles" in a cell in the matrix, after which 5 Vanilla Townies and 1 Mafia Goon are added.)

• [A1]
  1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker
  Vs.
  Town Cop, Town Doctor, 5 Vanilla Townies
  
  
• [A2]
  1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker
  Vs.
  Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, 5 Vanilla Townies
  
  
• [A3]
  1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker
  Vs.
  Town Mason, Town Mason, 5 Vanilla Townies
  
  
• [B1]
  1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Rolecop
  Vs.
  Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, 5 Vanilla Townies
  
  
• [B2]
  1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Rolecop
  Vs.
  Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, 5 Vanilla Townies
  
  
• [B3]
  1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Rolecop
  Vs.
  Town Tracker, Town Doctor, 5 Vanilla Townies
  
  
• [C1]
  2 Mafia Goons
  Vs.
  Town Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies
  
  
• [C2]
  2 Mafia Goons
  Vs.
  Town Jailkeeper, 6 Vanilla Townies
  
  
• [C3]
  2 Mafia Goons
  Vs.
  Town Mason, Town Mason, 5 Vanilla Townies

The PMs for every possible role are listed below:

Spoiler: Sample Role PMs

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Cop

Welcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Mason

Welcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town Tracker

Welcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Doctor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly Neighbor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia Goon

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Rolecop

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive "No Result."

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

[borkjerfkin]

Tips for new players

Introduction and Tips

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

[borkjerfkin]

Role PMs are going out. Game will begin when 8/9 have confirmed.

[borkjerfkin]

JDye replaces ziilos, who is already in another newbie game.

[borkjerfkin]

Enough players have confirmed. Day 1 will begin now!

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 1.0

[9] Not Voting (Alonzo, arachnidsGrip, cw357, DkKoba, n3xell, piisirrational, Rannygazoo, Sesq, JDye)

With 9 alive, it is 5 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-10 13:00:00)

[DkKoba]

first
VOTE: Rannygazoo

[cw357]

hello peoples

quick fyi i'm from a mafia community on the site https://artofproblemsolving.com which functions very similar to here but I decide dto start out in a newbie game because why not

where I'm from we do RQS so here we go:

1) Do you have a favorite role?
2) Current mafia experience? (and favorite setup you've ever played in if applicable)
3) Favourite flavor of ice cream (provide justification; yes i know it's cliche)

1) Never been a cult leader before but it seems like a really neat role to play
2) I've played in 5~6 games on aops but my play was a dumpster inferno in almost all of them (actually i got banned from aops mafia for 3 months for trolling and gamethrowing but I'm now unbanned and have turned over a new leaf); also had 1 scumgame on mafia universe which finished about a week ago
3) cookies and cream; I generally like vanilla best, and not chocolate, but the oreo cookies add an excellent hint of chocolate to the ice cream

I'll put down a VOTE: Alonzo since he/she is an SE and I've seen too many games where scum SEs don't get pressured enough and coast to victory

[DkKoba]

hello peoples

quick fyi i'm from a mafia community on the site https://artofproblemsolving.com which functions very similar to here but I decide dto start out in a newbie game because why not

where I'm from we do RQS so here we go:

1) Do you have a favorite role?
2) Current mafia experience? (and favorite setup you've ever played in if applicable)
3) Favourite flavor of ice cream (provide justification; yes i know it's cliche)

1) Never been a cult leader before but it seems like a really neat role to play
2) I've played in 5~6 games on aops but my play was a dumpster inferno in almost all of them (actually i got banned from aops mafia for 3 months for trolling and gamethrowing but I'm now unbanned and have turned over a new leaf); also had 1 scumgame on mafia universe which finished about a week ago
3) cookies and cream; I generally like vanilla best, and not chocolate, but the oreo cookies add an excellent hint of chocolate to the ice cream

I'll put down a VOTE: Alonzo since he/she is an SE and I've seen too many games where scum SEs don't get pressured enough and coast to victory

1)yes
2)i have it
3) no

[JDye]

Hey,

The name's Joe and I've not got any real mafia experience (I think I've played maybe two games of mafia ever and those were spread out over six or so years) . From what I remember I tunneled pretty hard so I'm going to try to be mindful of that this game.

As for cw357's questions:
1) Vanilla Townie. I've never played another role.
2) 2 games that were so long ago I don't think they count.
3) I don't really eat ice cream. I like savory stuff more.

VOTE: DrKoba for not engaging with cw357's questions.

Also, just thought I should mention that I'm not going to be on much on Tuesday's. Uni started up again and Tuesday is my busiest day.

[Sesq]

hello peoples

quick fyi i'm from a mafia community on the site https://artofproblemsolving.com which functions very similar to here but I decide dto start out in a newbie game because why not

where I'm from we do RQS so here we go:

1) Do you have a favorite role?
2) Current mafia experience? (and favorite setup you've ever played in if applicable)
3) Favourite flavor of ice cream (provide justification; yes i know it's cliche)

1) Never been a cult leader before but it seems like a really neat role to play
2) I've played in 5~6 games on aops but my play was a dumpster inferno in almost all of them (actually i got banned from aops mafia for 3 months for trolling and gamethrowing but I'm now unbanned and have turned over a new leaf); also had 1 scumgame on mafia universe which finished about a week ago
3) cookies and cream; I generally like vanilla best, and not chocolate, but the oreo cookies add an excellent hint of chocolate to the ice cream

I'll put down a VOTE: Alonzo since he/she is an SE and I've seen too many games where scum SEs don't get pressured enough and coast to victory

Mucho texto!

VOTE: cw357

[cw357]

post #12

smh

60% of that was just me posting an rqs (which is normal at least where I'm from), 10% was reasoning for an RVS vote (which IMO makes it easier to start scumhunting), 20% just a hello, and 10% saying "below are rqs questions"

so either you're not reading careful enough or you are being opportunistic/lazy which seems hard to do with ~5 non-mod posts

[DkKoba]

VOTE: c2357 defensive

[Alonzo]

Hello everyone!

Yes I am an SE , because everyone knows the rules for becoming an IC are as clear as mud.
I also imagine you have to behave yourself , so I steer clear!

In response to #9

1) third party narcotics detective survivor

2) what you see in my history is it, my first game references minimal experience before that.

3) mint choc chip everyone, but phish food deserves a mention from the people that make diabetes medication.

[Alonzo]

VOTE: sesq

[Sesq]

post #12

smh

60% of that was just me posting an rqs (which is normal at least where I'm from), 10% was reasoning for an RVS vote (which IMO makes it easier to start scumhunting), 20% just a hello, and 10% saying "below are rqs questions"

so either you're not reading careful enough or you are being opportunistic/lazy which seems hard to do with ~5 non-mod posts

This is RVS. What the fuck are you talking about?

[Alonzo]

UNVOTE:

[DkKoba]

lol why do u think i voted them

[Alonzo]

VOTE: JDye

[JDye]

You wound me

VOTE: Sesq
She engaged with cw357's questions even less than DrKoba.

[Alonzo]

VOTE: c2357 defensive

But I love it, that post is incredible!

[Sesq]

You wound me

VOTE: Sesq
She engaged with cw357's questions even less than DrKoba.

Don't you realize that overengagement can ALSO be a scum tactic, an attempt to avoid suspicion through vacuous, constant posting?

I know you're new, so you need to hear this: there are no easy scum tells. There is no such thing as "scum behavior". There are unique contexts in which scummy behavior will arise that are yet to fully reveal themselves. Don't chase your tail like a dog here.

[Alonzo]

Brilliant