Newbie 2091 | Kinobot | Game over!

[GeorgeBailey]

Newbie 2091 | Kinobot

!req Taxi Driver [01:35:32]

Back-up Mod: Datisi

Hello everyone,

Today we'll be using the critically acclaimed Kinobot!

Kinobot is a discord bot that submits to their Facebook page where people can request frames of movies, frames that parallel frames, frames with their quotes swapped, and palletes of frames.

I'm going to be using mostly stuff that I requested but some of it has been requested by other users (OP image included).

Check it out if you're interesting in making your own

https://kino.caretas.club/

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Player List:

1. Abdbla
   frogsfrogs
   
   Asphodelus
   asia
   ProgoWoshua
   
   Takemikazuchi02
   CornPuffBuddha
   TistDaniel
   MightyCannon
   
   goodmorning (SE)
   Johoohno (SE)
   Bellaphant (SE)

* = Prod

Dead:

Spoiler:

Day 1: Abdbla -

Mafia goon

Events

• Day 1 Start
  
• TistDaniel replaces MightyCannon
  
• abdbla replaces frogsfrogs
  
• Day 1 Elimination
  
• Aisa replaces ProgoWoshua
  
  

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• Day 2 Start
  
• Day 2 Elimination
  
• Game End

Spoiler: VoteCount Settings

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playerList=frogsfrogs,Asphodelus{Ash},ProgoWoshua,Takeminazuchi02{T02},CornPuffBuddha,MightyCannon,goodmorning,Johoohno,Bellaphant
replacementList=MightyCannon:TistDaniel,frogsfrogs:abdbla,ProgoWoshua:Asia
moderatorNames=GeorgeBailey
dayStartNumbers=3,455
cleanDay=true
prodTimer=36
deadline=
deadList=abdbla-1
flavor=[/align=center][/i][/thumb=600][/thumb][/i][/align]
voteOverrides=
color=#8040FF

[GeorgeBailey]

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

[GeorgeBailey]

Setup Info

Newbie Setup

Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Column A & Row 1:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 2:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 3:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 1:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 2:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 3:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column C & Row 1:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 2:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 3:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Cop

Welcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Mason

Welcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town Tracker

Welcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Doctor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly Neighbor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when there are no longer any threats to town.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia Goon

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Rolecop

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

[GeorgeBailey]

Rules

Completely stolen from Plotinus

IMPORTANT BIT

1. Days: 10 days, Day2+: 7 days / Night: 2 days
   
2. Majority eliminations
   
3. 36 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement, 24 hour weekends
   
4. Bah posts allowed (limit: 1, free of game related content)
   
5. I have some unusual rules about tiny text, and prodging. Scroll down for details.
   
6. Don’t be a dick

1. Mod colour
   – My mod colour is
   Purple(?)
   (#8040FF); don't use it.
   
2. Behaviour
   - Don’t be a dick. This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself eliminated if you try it.
   
3. Don't talk about ongoing games
   - You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
   
4. Tiny text
   - Is of the devil, keep it 70+ please.
   
5. Provable randomness
   - is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
   
6. Claiming scum
   - by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
   
7. Cryptography
   - is forbidden. Breadcrumbing is okay.
   
8. Confirmation
   - You have about 72 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if everyone confirms. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
   
9. Days
   - Days last 10 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements, or if the majority of players make it clear to me that an extension is desired.
   
10. Activity
    - You must post at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. The activity timers run at half-speed on weekends. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night. If you accumulate 4 prods, you are then force replaced.
    
11. Vacation/Limited Access
    If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare V/LA in bold in the thread like this:
    @Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday
    . While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 54 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
    
12. Quoting
    - You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
    
13. Voting
    - Votes must be in bold in the format
    VOTE: GeorgeBailey
    or
    Vote: GeorgeBailey
    . Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type [
    v]GeorgeBailey[
    /v] to vote and [
    uv]GeorgeBailey[
    /uv] to unvote.
    
14. Eliminate
    - Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to eliminate somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no eliminate, the day will end without a elimination. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no elimination.
    
15. Twilight
    - Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.
    
16. Night
    - Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.
    
17. Action submissions
    - You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
    
18. Reminders
    - If I don't hear from you about your night actions, I'll PM you 24 hours before the deadline. This doesn't count as a prod. If I still don't hear from you, you will take no action.
    
19. Notes PT
    - Let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. This thread will be made public immediately after the game. You may draft posts in your notes PT but you may not talk about your notes PT in public. You definitely may not use the notes PT to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.
    
20. "Lynch"
    - The word "lynch" is banned sitewide for both players and moderators to use. Do not use it. Accidental uses sometimes happen but if I see you using it constantly you will be force-replaced.
    
21. Play to win
    - this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!

[GeorgeBailey]

All role PMs have been sent out! We will start when [7/9] people have confirmed. Deadline for role confirmation is (expired on 2022-03-23 13:57:37).

The above clock and any others used throughout this game will be accurate from the time you loaded the page.

[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 1.1

Not Voting (9): frogsfrogs (0), Asphodelus (0), ProgoWoshua (0),Takeminazuchi02 (0), CornPuffBuddha (0), MightyCannon (0), goodmorning (0), Johoohno (0), Bellaphant (0)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to Eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2022-04-01 12:36:36)

FLAVOR

!req it's such a beautiful day [It's such a beautiful day]

MightyCannon has (expired on 2022-03-23 13:57:37) to confirm before I start looking for a replacement

[frogsfrogs]

Hey there, everyone!! I took a short break since my last game, hope my eyes aren't rusty

VOTE: CornPuffBuddha

[Bellaphant]

VOTE: frogsfrogs

Eager scum!

It's been a while since I did this

[Johoohno]

Hiya all!

Let's skip this ridiculous random voting and build a bandwagon right off the bat: VOTE: CornPuffBuddha

(crossing my fingers the vote tag is correct)

[goodmorning]

@frogs, @Bella: if you guys think

you're

rusty I might as well be dust in the wind. I feel like this is my very first game all over again with the amount of time it's been and I really hope I can cope with my schedule the way it is.

Also @Bella: should I remember you from somewhere? I feel like maybe but the search function was being weird when I tried to check.

VOTE: frogs

Are two bandwagons better than one?

let's find out

[goodmorning]

Forgot I had a mod question too.

@Mod: not specifically banned in your rule set but how do you feel about spoiler= tags?

[Bellaphant]

@goodmorning, you did a lot of ic-ing when I was new, so I think positive things towards you but don't think we have interacted? There is a 'bella' and an 'irrelephant' on site.

[GeorgeBailey]

@Mod: not specifically banned in your rule set but how do you feel about spoiler= tags?

Spoiler tags are fine to use

[Johoohno]

@frogs, @Bella: if you guys think

you're

rusty I might as well be dust in the wind.

And if you're dust in the wind, I'm the ancient and primordial air before there was a wind

What's your favorite role to play?

[CornPuffBuddha]

@frogsfrogs @Johoohno Oh my god, you suck!

Jokes aside, hello everyone. First game of forum mafia so...don't hold back!

Are THREE bandwagons better than two?

VOTE: Bellaphant

[goodmorning]

@Bella: I did eventually find it - I was in hydra in Open 618. That said I remember 0% about it!

@Mod: Thanks!

@Joho: My favorite role is actually VT. I like the puzzle aspect of Mafia best, so Scum roles are TMI and Town PRs feel a little cheap for me.

What about you? And also, why do you ask?

P-edit: 3 bandwagons is too many.

pick a side or else

[Johoohno]

Yeah, sorry about the piling on, no ill will here, just playing the game. Hope it's not scaring you off the site, despite this despicable welcoming party.

Though I'll keep my vote on you for now. Guess we'll reach maximum bandwagons on four ... but I'm not hoping for it.

@goodmorning: Asking out of curiosity (and my scum hunting style is asking questions), and since I was directing a comment your way anyway I could as well ask away. But the question could definitely go for everyone (feel free to answer it the rest of you). I, like you prefer VT for the same reason you mentioned: I'm in the blind trying to solve the puzzle.

[Johoohno]

EBWOP: First passage was aimed at CornPuffBuddha

[CornPuffBuddha]

Yeah, sorry about the piling on, no ill will here, just playing the game. Hope it's not scaring you off the site, despite this despicable welcoming party.

Of course, no offense taken, just jesting.

[goodmorning]

@CPB: What's your previous Mafia experience?

[CornPuffBuddha]

@CPB: What's your previous Mafia experience?

Lots of Town of Salem and mafia.gg, some IRL, also I've read alot of the mafiascum wiki. Brand new to forum mafia though.

[goodmorning]

What do you think your scumhunting style will be like when transferred to this medium? How would you describe it in previous mediums?

[CornPuffBuddha]

What do you think your scumhunting style will be like when transferred to this medium? How would you describe it in previous mediums?

Unsure how this translates to the forums, but when scumhunting I usually just ask alot of questions and have a tendency to second guess myself. That's the best assessment I can give I think.

[Bellaphant]

I tend to prefer town, either VT or something like tracker: I like being able to confirm my thoughts, especially at times as I find them harder to articulate/convince people.

[goodmorning]

@CPB: it might translate fairly directly if it's that style. Would you say you've started scumhunting yet?