Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[InfernoBrafin]

Inferno:

I just want to throw this out there:
I played against scum!N_M on my very first game on the site, and his play now somewhat reminds me of that game. So N_M is not off of the hook imo.

[Mathdino]

Great, we have more support for a Not_Mafia lynch than A50
His play is agenda driven in a way town Not_Mafia never llays

VOTE: Not_Mafia
Need you on this IB

[the worst]

Fuck it, out of everyone I have the largest gut town read on Dino. Sheeping him tonight.

I'm sheeping this sheeping

[the worst]

Fuck all of the entire mastina vs A50. Both of them are blatantly manipulative. I'm pretending they don't exist for the rest of the phase.

[the worst]

InfBra are you guys town?

[Mathdino]

Am I not manipulative D:

Anyway buddy I'm gonna need you on this wagon, you won't regret it

[BuJaber]

Fuck all of the entire mastina vs A50. Both of them are blatantly manipulative. I'm pretending they don't exist for the rest of the phase.

I'm fine with that.

MD - I guess if there's no other wagon we all will agree on than NM it is. I just feel that's the one that gives the least info. And while I can't claim I know how NM plays he is still the one that I think could get cleared by others flipping. The other scumreads are only cleared if they themselves flip. (Well if kthx flips scum then yes A50 is town but I don't think kthx is scum for other reasons and I'm not lynching what is now a townread for me).

[the worst]

You're persuasive and make sense! D:

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[the worst]

Math how do you read Mom, InfBra and Buj?

[Mathdino]

Marangal is lynchable
I need IBs vote since town is being bad, so policy lynching him doesn't do any good
BuJaber is pretty damn town

[Kthxbye]

VOTE: NM
I'm not taking away my sheep, but my only concern with a brand new wagon is it would end up with yet another claim on D2.

[Kthxbye]

FTR, that's 4 votes on NM. No accidental hammers

[acryon]

I was gonna attemor to discredit A50 all by myself thanks kthx.. but anyway no need


Mastina use your role cop on kthx please.

Let's lynch acryon. I don't even care if he's scum anymore I really need to know so I can read the remaining players.

Or alternatively:
Acryon could you vote for A50 please? If he's town I'll sheep you rest of the game what do you say?

No. I do not think A50 is scum.

dude it's honestly probably not_mafia

Is the idea that he is scum because he's not really scumhunting very hard? To be honest, I totally agree with that, but that's what it's felt like in the past when I played with town!N_M. He's the townread I am probably least confident on at this point, especially with how he has townread me so strongly without reason, but I still need convincing. Do you have a couple specific posts that really ping you from past experience with N_M?

acryon quite literally tried to frame the narrative of kthx being scum for the thing that he himself did on D1.

Except I said he was scum before he even made the claim, and all claims are not created equal, so don't try to say they are.

mastina who in the playerlist do you actually think you're swaying with posts like this lol

Seriously. I know I have an extra reason to dislike the posts, but it makes it really really hard to engage with anything that slot is saying when it's just post after post after post. This kind of play can work fine IRL and you can have a dialogue, but it's just a cacophony at this point.

Even if I had the time and desire to go and reply to every point from Mastina, it wouldn't help anything because as it exhausting as it is to read through one set of Mastina posts, we then have an equal response for each one.

[Gamma Emerald]

@MOD: will we not be getting answers the the questions surrounding my role in thread? Would it more appropriate for me to PM you to clarify my role?

Quote your questions and I will respond to them.

@Mod: What result would a hypothetical Follower receive in the following situations:

A. The Follower is successfully roleblocked.
B. The target does nothing.
C. The target uses, for example, a rolecop ability and also makes a factional kill.
D. The target solely uses a rolecop ability.
E. The target solely makes a factional kill.
F. The target is a ninja and makes a factional kill.

@TW: I don't think anyone's a Lyncher here.

Then fucking get on with it and watch the flip.

And I swear, if the floundering gets A50 of the hook tomorrow... just surrender the game.

MOD: is the result of the follower ability different between seeing no action taken and having the follower ability role blocked. If so, can you give each type of result?

@MOD: I'd also like to add the question: If a follower targets a commuter, what is the order in which results are solved? Does commuter commute and is thus not targeted by follower or does the follower watch the commuter commute and get the result of the type of ability used?

I would prefer you PM these questions.

[Kthxbye]

UNVOTE:

PM sent and I'm not voting till I get a reply.

[acryon]

UNVOTE:

[Beefster]

mastina who in the playerlist do you actually think you're swaying with posts like this lol

lol

Every time I see one of those posts, I think she's scummier than before.

In fact, three of her wagons today have been built around setup speculation. I know I'm not the one to talk, but between her pushing for players as scum for what powers they have and who their targets were is suspect. If she flips town, we can just take her advice.
VOTE: Carrot and Stick

[Beefster]

VOTE: Not_Mafia
Also a good wagon.
lol. Didn't read the last page when I posted that.

[acryon]

VOTE: Not_Mafia
Also a good wagon.
lol. Didn't read the last page when I posted that.

Do you think N_M and C&S are both scum?

[Beefster]

It's possible. I'd have to look over ISOs to be sure, but I don't think they've had votes on each other.

[acryon]

It's possible. I'd have to look over ISOs to be sure, but I don't think they've had votes on each other.

They haven't, but N_M is one of C&S's 3 primary scumreads.

[Kthxbye]

Alright, based on my pm interaction and NAR, A50 checks out. If he was ninja, I'd get something other than no result. Ascetic modifier and RB are the only other ways I get a NR last night. So A50 is ascetic or commuter or i was RBed.

[Kthxbye]

Commuter would be a good fake claim for ascetic but I'm not sure town gets no way to deal with ascetic scum other than to lynch so I'm leaning commuter? Sigh. Glad I'm just sheeping today, cuz I have no idea what to think.

VOTE: not mafia

[acryon]

That is L-1. No hammers

[Mathdino]

UNVOTE:
Self hammer.
I'm coming up with a night action plan shortly