Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Gamma Emerald]

Why would Gamma roleblock Brass?

agreed on your point about it being a good scum fakeclaim meaning it's not true.

You motherfucker. You're twisting Chara words too, you desperate scumlord.

[Gamma Emerald]

Germany and Spain are now allies. Germany has vowed to declare war on anyone that attacks Spain.

History is repeating itself it seems. But shouldn't you have been allied with Italy first?

Ain't no fucking way

I'm

allying with Germany

[Gamma Emerald]

@chara the thing is, if gamma’s last red we prevent a night kill everynight

Tinfoil ahoy! Why do you think I'm last red?

[Gamma Emerald]

Whoever speculated that religion works like a fruit vendor and AD's post about religion based resolutions...there's a happy medium between the two.

Well you know what we can do?

@Mod can scum use a personal action and perform the night kill during the same night generally?

No.

Venmar: i read that as the bodyguard works night 2 onward, but could Elbirn have bodyguarded someone on night 1 and died that way?

No. Elbirn's role would not have protected on Night 1, but would have Night 2 and onwards.

(Votecount on the way)

If Elbirn targeted scum would he have died by weak modifier?

If Elbirn's Night 1 target was not a member of the town, then he would have died.

like these are just "LOOK AT ME IM DOING THINGS!"

The first question is just kinda useless. It also doesn't really seem to have anything to do with what I was talking about.

The second one is just dumb. Like he already knew what the weak modifier does so I don't see town him asking that.

I'm either super conf biased or he's scum.

Like this is such a goddamned lie about my activity it makes me sad you would do such things, you pitiful man. Sure I asked these questions, but I've also been engaging, giving and pushing my reads, and actually participating in the general discussion. That would be plainly evident, but it seems you choose to leave that part out.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why would a scum watcher bother watching brassherald? They KNOW that no protectives was going to hit brass that night.

Scum investigative? Brass's role was already outed

Roleblocker? We have a dead one already, and roleblocking a confirmed IC seems dumb

Religion spreader? Brass confirmed theres no religion.

Strongman? Brass's still alive

What else is there?

Guys, what teh fuck. Gamma is town here. There exists no scum role that makes sense with being used on the protected IC.

FOS on BuJaber for the previous 2 posts tho. Dont like the tone.

Tone of someone who has accepted that their opinions qill drown in the sea of witchhunters that exist in this game. They want to kill gamma let them kill gamma. Then let them scramble about to prove their innocence afterwards. Sometimes the fight is won through death.

There is a bloc of people who have regardless of alignment decided to stick together no matter what. Fuck em let the townies among them learn from their mistakes.

I like how you're with me though. I honestly thought nobody was gonna reject the gamma lynch except me.

I object. I fucking despise getting lynched despite having reason to not be. Either explain why it's wrong or actually follow through on your belief.

[Gamma Emerald]

Klazam look at the cases on you. On me. On gamma. On titus.

There's witch hunting going on and I don't know which of them are scum and which are town. All I know is that as much as I want to lynch nero for the reasons I have mentioned he comes round everytime and sounds so damn townie. Chara also I gut reas as town. And so I'm gonna change my approach and sheep them and see what happens for one or two day phases.

Witch hunting is pretty fun!

Most of them should be town, since 3 scum instantly died already.

And why can't one of those town be me?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why would a scum watcher bother watching brassherald? They KNOW that no protectives was going to hit brass that night.

Scum investigative? Brass's role was already outed

Roleblocker? We have a dead one already, and roleblocking a confirmed IC seems dumb

Religion spreader? Brass confirmed theres no religion.

Strongman? Brass's still alive

What else is there?

Guys, what teh fuck. Gamma is town here. There exists no scum role that makes sense with being used on the protected IC.

FOS on BuJaber for the previous 2 posts tho. Dont like the tone.

Orange said that they would take care of brass didn't they? Just a though that could explain a scum watcher on brass from a red

Again, what makes you think there's any validity to me bein a red mafia?

[Gamma Emerald]

Second, religion spreaders might visit Brass.

Who said Purple mafia is not a possibility?

What I'd like to know is: what about my reaction to Joda's theory? I knew there were no visits to brass other than A50's. As such I knew there couldn't be another religion spreader that targeted brass. Why would I have such a visceral reaction of "this is wrong" if I was actually a religion spreader who targeted brass?

[Venmar]

Votecount 2.3

[0] Nero Cain:

[0] Kiana Kaslana:

[0] brassherald:

[1]

Bujaber:

Almost50

[0] Kokichi Oma:

[0] Chara:

[5]

Gamma Emerald:

Nero Cain, marshy, Titus, Kiana Kaslana, BuJaber

[0] Klazam:

[0] Titus:

[1]

Shaziro:

Chara

[0] ActionDan:

[0] Joey_:

[0] pidgey:

[0] jodaxq:

[1]

almost50:

shaziro

[0] marshy:

[0] ranmaru:

Not Voting

• brassherald, Kokichi Koma, Klazam, ActionDan, Joey_, pidgey, Jodaxq, ranmaru, Gamma Emerald

Deadline

• In (expired on 2018-03-27 09:00:00)
  
• Tuesday, March 27th @9:00am PST

Mod Notes:

• With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.
  
• Titus is V/LA until Sunday

[Venmar]

MOD : Does a watcher ability counts as a visit (that could be tracked) or does a watcher role does not visit and only "target" a player ?

A theoretical watcher could be tracked, yes.

[Chara]

There was once a game where almost everyone was scum. NKs by lottery. It was fun but not really mafia at that point.

i was the only town. :<

it was fun, though.

[Chara]

i wrote a big post about this but really the bottom line is when there's a reason for a town watcher to target brass (if scum has a strongman, it's a guilty), no one's come up with anything scum would target the IC with. besides the religion theory, and frankly if Gamma were religion spreader he would have just claimed it instead of coming up with a lie that he wouldn't be able to hold up.
red scum watcher is a possibility. but again if there's a reason for a scum watcher to target the IC to find the other team then there's a reason for town to do it.

pretending he didn't have a reason as town to target the IC also sucks.

[Chara]

team analysis isn't my strong suite but with two red scum dead i think it can be done. it worked in a previous game when i actually applied myself, though we lost for other reasons.

[Joey_]

@chara the thing is, if gamma’s last red we prevent a night kill everynight

Tinfoil ahoy! Why do you think I'm last red?

Im pretty sure i used “if” as to talk about a hypothetical scenario

[Joey_]

Dude gamma calm the fuck down my friend, im actually trying to justify not lynching you today

[Chara]

Joey, who do you think is scum? in general or specific to red scum if you have it.

[Joey_]

Joey, who do you think is scum? in general or specific to red scum if you have it.

You can see my updated read list in my iso if you want. Id quote myself but im lazy and on phone, i dont have any specific red sr either but i have a few slot that i believe cant be the last red

[Joey_]

Resolutions

Spoiler:

DAY 1

[

Ban Luxury

~ Silk]

PASSES

The World Congress will monitor its effects going forward, but angry letters from textile manufacturers and sex workers alike have already started pouring in.

Effect(s) Unknown.

[

Congressional Peace-keeping

~ brassherald]

PASSES

The World Congress sends its peace-keeping forces to

brassherald

's Civilization, a move that is sure to curtail aggression in the region.

brassherald receives Protection Night 1.

Gamestate 2.1

Alive

17/21

Spoiler:

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Kokichi Oma	Chara	Nero Cain
?	?	?	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
?	?	Watcher	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Action Dan	Pidgey	Jodaxq
?	?	Catholic Spreader ?	Tracker
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	?	?	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Dead

4/21

Spoiler:

Elbirn
Weak Permanent BG
▓▓▓▓
Varsoon
Role Cop
▓▓▓▓
Creature	Dunkerdoodles
Role Blocker	Pagan Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓

Spoiler: My reads

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Kokichi Oma	Nero Cain	Chara
?	?	?	?
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
?	?	Watcher	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Action Dan	Pidgey	Jodaxq
?	?	Catholic Spreader	Tracker
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	?	?	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Changes :
Assuming Gamma and Joda can't be scum in the same team, added that to my reads
+ Baju kinda towntold

Quoted because im a nice kitty

[Joey_]

Also joda and gamma cant both be orange imo

[brassherald]

Your read list is wrong on Joda, that's not the role she has claimed.

[BuJaber]

World Congress

Voting for a Congress Host
(Day 2 - Update 3.1)

On Day 2, all players receive 2 delegates for assignment in the World Congress.
The Host receives an additional 2 delegates, for a total of 4 delegates.

---

Spoiler: Delegates Cast (19)

[10] HEAL: HOST - brassherald: Kiana Kaslana (1), BuJaber (2), ranmaru (1), Klazam (2), ActionDan (2), Gamma Emerald (2)
[2] HEAL: HOST - Titus: Shaziro (2)
[4] HEAL: HOST - Kokichi Koma: Kokichi Koma (2), Joey_ (2)
[1] HEAL: HOST - Joey_: Chara (1)
[2] HEAL: HOST - ranmaru: Almost50 (2)

Spoiler: Delegates Not Cast in Host Election (17)

Nero Cain (2), Kiana Kaslana (1),

brassherald

(

4

), Chara (1), Titus (2), pidgey (2), Jodaxq (2), marshy (2), ranmaru (1)

NOTES

:

• [*]

  brassherald

  remains Host unless/until a new one is elected
  [*]

  Titus

  was the runner up on Day 1

Vote.

[Joey_]

Your read list is wrong on Joda, that's not the role she has claimed.

True actually, she told me but i forgot to update, will do when on my pc

[brassherald]

How would we feel about a Joda leader?

[Chara]

somehow about the existence of those. whoops. thanks for quoting them.

ok, so you agree with me that as far as red scum candidates go, Gamma is unlikely.
why are you townreading Shazi?

pedit: oh, right. inventor.

and yes, Joda and Gamma being teamed would be quite the gambit.

[Joey_]

I also think that mechanically a50 cannot be red but he can be orange