Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[brassherald]

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Vote Count 1.2

the worst (4)

Mathdino, oxy, Scioness Sajj, pinturicchio L-3

Scioness Sajj (1)

the worst

Mohab500 (1)

ofrhz

Not Voting:

AP, Draynth, Sunshine13, UglyDuck, Mohab500, skitter30, ruru

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2018-04-30 16:45:00)

[Draynth]

Greetings

VOTE: MathDino
A T-Rex capable of performing algebra is a scary prospect

[Mathdino]

You ain't seen nothing yet
Have you read the game? I'd say we're solidly out of RVS

[the worst]

heya twinny

[Sunshine13]

yo skitter how's things?

I would feel bad about pushing scioness with maximum Mathdino weight on d1 off of 1 post
I would otherwise sheep you, as I agree the post is more scum indicative than null
Waiting til everyone checks in

/lurk

I'm not seeing how the post is more scum indicative than not. In fact, I would be inclined to suggest it's more town indicative than anything else.

why

Why not?

It draws attention and provokes reactions. Not something scum want at this point.

In saying that I did do an RVS L-1 in a mountainous reverse mafia (you were trying to get lynched) and was town read to my death on D1 as mafia, so I guess there's that.

fair though it was only L-2 and I would've expected town in that position to be a bit less vague --are you an alt?
if not what's your offsite experience?

It was the first RVS wagon and it was Sajj's first post. What could she have done to be less vague?

No alt, and I upon cursory examination, I have played 26 games of mafia. Holy shit. First game on this site since the place I normally play is pretty much dead used to smaller games (around 9-13 players) so I might try my hand at a bigger once once I get used to how things operate in a different place.

I'm not seeing how the post is more scum indicative than not. In fact, I would be inclined to suggest it's more town indicative than anything else.

It draws attention and provokes reactions. Not something scum want at this point.

Disagree. It felt blending-in-y to me. Like 4 other people just voted TW, so she might as well hop on cuz everyone else is doing it. Also it felt kinda weird coming from Scioness in particular - like it was an empty vote and I'm low-key surprised she didn't have more to say about the fact that a wagon had formed so quickly before joining it.

A'ight. Like with TW, what could she have said that would have made sense with that vote on that wagon?

You also said it felt weird specifically from Scioness; Why did it feel weird from her?

Would it have felt weird from any other players? If so, Who?

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I find myself agreeing with Math regarding roles.

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brassherald

I also have limited access (it varies, really, but to be on the safe side...) during weekends and on Mondays.

[brassherald]

Sunshine's VLA is noted, please use bolded text to talk to me in the future.

[the worst]

It was the first RVS wagon and it was Sajj's first post. What could she have done to be less vague?

No alt, and I upon cursory examination, I have played 26 games of mafia. Holy shit. First game on this site since the place I normally play is pretty much dead used to smaller games (around 9-13 players) so I might try my hand at a bigger once once I get used to how things operate in a different place.

I think 13p is the perfect size game (give or take)
welcome. hope you enjoy it here.

sheeping the first rvs wagon to L-2 with nothing but a "hi" post pings me as more likely scummy than null/towny. L-2 also lacks the accountability of L-1 or even like a 2nd vote, it's a decent position for scum to be in.

idk if it were me I'd say something like "good wagon, evilduck must die (vote)" but that's not really the point.

I'm not lockscumming her ass and suggesting we lynch with fire but it's a great place to start

btw Math is super super heavily invested in the whole Mafia Discussion world and is incredibly sharp re. open setups. everything he says will be objectively correct or a highly educated opinion. but it's not alignment indicative.

[Mathdino]

I actually had a plan for if I rolled scum this game specifically to subvert expectations

[the worst]

honestly I read everything setup spec wise as NAI. it's nice to note for future though

[Oxy]

It turned out that the first thing I was town reading Sunshine13 for is NAI.

Luckily, I feel more confident in my new reason for town reading him. =)

[the worst]

same here Oxy, sunny is fiiine

[Mathdino]

I actually had a plan for if I rolled scum this game specifically to subvert expectations

Is no one interested in this

[the worst]

I mean it has nothing to do with winning the game but.......

alright I'll bite

[Oxy]

I would love to hear your plan, Dino =)

[Sunshine13]

I actually had a plan for if I rolled scum this game specifically to subvert expectations

Is no one interested in this

Yes, but we don’t know if you’ve subverted expectations yet. Patience, brah.

It’s a steaming pile of wifom regardless, but someone might bring it up when the jailor flips.

[Mathdino]

1. Pick the worst possible roles. Jailkeeper, tracker, Vig probably. No cop because I'm a natural cop target.
2. Insist through the whole game that there's an innocent child because any scumteam that chooses otherwise is idiotic.
3. Neverbus my buddies so tracker/jailkeeper don't fuck us over.
4. Shoot all the PRs, potentially mislynch the 3rd one by arguing that there must be an innocent child out there and jailkeeper is an easy fakeclaim.
5. Once it becomes clear that scum didn't take innocent child, argue I'm conftown because I make mechanically correct decisions.

1 bad vigshot and 2 mislynches puts us in 7p or 8p lylo. Win this.

But then I rolled town whoops

[the worst]

note to self:
scum!dino is evil

[Mathdino]

Being the current best pr hunter onsite helps a lot with not losing against difficult mechanical positions

[Oxy]

I like your style =)

If you don't pick inno child, the wifom is too obvious, so I think you should consider trading vig for inno child.

Otherwise you have to argue that some other possible maf team didn't choose an IC.

You don't get the vig shot, but it would be easier for you to conf!town yourself claiming that you know vigs hurt town more often than scum.

[Mathdino]

yeah that makes sense actually. the idea behind not choosing IC though is to say "there's an IC out there not revealing, this bucko claiming jailkeeper is clearly lying though"

tbh vigs hurt town less when i'm in the game, as both alignments

when i'm scum me and my team are bad so we get shot

when i'm town i threaten to shout at the vigs if they're stupid

i also have a system for making sure vigs don't shoot PRs (they seem to do this a lot) but we'll talk about that more down the line

[Mohab500]

Cool, the actual game started.

[Mohab500]

I will chexk later

[the worst]

Cool, the actual game started.

what do you think of it so far?

[Mohab500]

Cool, the actual game started.

what do you think of it so far?

Anime gams good, sord art onliene, lol

Watashi tell you, I will check later when I have time

[Draynth]

You ain't seen nothing yet
Have you read the game? I'd say we're solidly out of RVS

I have not, reading now