Open 721: Pick Your Poison (Game Over)

[Mathdino]

you know I'll sheep you at EOD
Low key feel stupid listening to a setup spec oriented case. note to self: trust no one and listen to nothing

i've literally been ignoring almost every case made at me over the past 20 pages

what the actual fuck happened

also trust ruru/pintu

[Mathdino]

how did you put skitter30 in your top two townreads for tunneling me all day while actively putting off the notion of metaing me at all

[Mathdino]

wow everyone who posted in this page is playing absolutely awful

i never fucking asked for a specific roleclaim jesus christ ruru i told you that multiple times

i just wanted him to stop pussyfooting and specifically say "i'm a VT" or "i'm a PR"

and i specifically wanted him to say "i'm a VT" so we could just lynch him and get this day over with

[the worst]

Ruru made a really convincing setup based reason to lock you as scum and I asked her questions and she answered them and I was really tired and it seemed like a good idea at the time D:

Would you like a list of reasons morning!me wants to stab sleepy!me or....?

[Mathdino]

ruru has an excuse for playing bad in this instance
she's never seen scum-me so yeah it's excusable to think "oh yeah scum-Dino peddles shit setup info as scum" when i've never advocated anything but good setup advice as scum (it's suicide to do otherwise, it's an open setup, you can't read me for setup spec)
it's less excusable to think "Dino is asking what specific power role Draynth is" after i already denied that
but whatever

skitter has no such excuse
her cases on me have been awful all game
like "scumread every single post Dino makes" level awful

[Mathdino]

like yeah blame me for outing draynth sure

but the case on draynth was half policy for not doing shit

and one scumreadable post

no scumcase is all-encompassing and skitter seems to think everything i've done is scum indicative somehow

[the worst]

I think we've spoken about why I think it's town to reach a net scumlean on you this game pre reveal but agreed, skitter is tunnelling

[pinturicchio]

VOTE: Uglyduck

I know you want it

[the worst]

Still do not see UgDuck as scum with daychat
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[Oxy]

Still do not see UgDuck as scum with daychat
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can you remind me what he said that was so bad it couldn't be scum with day chat?

serious question, no ulterior motive. It just so happens that I'm reading him right now.

[Mathdino]

the fact that it's townish to achieve a scumlean on me is fine, like i was partially baiting that with passiveness/laziness because i wanted to go full dictator on D2, not D1

i will however argue it's pretty shit to try to lynch me on D1 all things considered

skitter has gone beyond that into the realm of "50% of all of her content is spent tunneling a Mathdino that she repeatedly says she's uninterested in lynching today, yet spends 0 time trying to find his partners"

like her play has been useless all day as a result

i would HOPE she's better than that, smh

[pinturicchio]

Still do not see UgDuck as scum with daychat
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Well, I guess you'd say, what can make me feel this way?

[the worst]

@Oxy/Pingu--his reads list was transparently a newb read list and did not feel assisted at all. His arguing with sunsh is ridiculous and I would have begged him to stop via pt. his responses to people calling him scum are newbish. A lot of his ideas of maf theory are wonky but he's digging in his heels. No one has jumped in to defend him.

It probably sounds like a pretty strong read for what it is but it makes sense to me.

the fact that it's townish to achieve a scumlean on me is fine, like i was partially baiting that with passiveness/laziness because i wanted to go full dictator on D2, not D1

i will however argue it's pretty shit to try to lynch me on D1 all things considered

skitter has gone beyond that into the realm of "50% of all of her content is spent tunneling a Mathdino that she repeatedly says she's uninterested in lynching today, yet spends 0 time trying to find his partners"

like her play has been useless all day as a result

i would HOPE she's better than that, smh

+1 everything in this post. I liked her handling of Draynth's slot tho

[Mathdino]

not everyone has RC as a daytalk scumbuddy my man

who in this playerlist other than literally me would coach an entire reads list

[northsidegal]

Hm. With draynth and scioness being unlikely lynches today, that kind of leaves me without a lot of direction.

Here's an idea.
VOTE: pintu

[Mathdino]

good vote

for anyone who's wondering, pintu is locktown because scum-him notices that i hardpush VIs who tunnel me to oblivion based on Open 714

he doesn't make the same mistake as Drixx, TheGoldenParadox, pintu-back-then, etc

skitter on the other hand is far less likely to be intimidated which is why i'm very ???? about her

in fact i think it's more likely scum-skitter is forced to discredit/reduce the control i have over gamestates because gamesolving etc etc

the rest of the newbies from 1859 would probably stay out of my way as scum (also partially why oxy is likely town. scum-him should be buddying me about now since i'm hard townreading him)

pintu is locktown by setup spec

argued "why would scum pick a vig with mathdino in the game" when pintu is the only one in this game aware of my vig-directing strategy

so pintu is the only one here who would avoid picking vig as scum, yet here he assumes there's a vig already

i'm using my 1-shot governor on pinturicchio thank you very much

[northsidegal]

Alright then.

[the worst]

How do we feel about the Sajj repout?

[Oxy]

@the worst
I'm not feeling that read. I'm still reading him pretty townie. Just recently I liked his nsg vote into immediate draynth vote.

I imagine you would change that read if his team was something like exactly {skitter, sunshine, uglyduck} since neither of them posted in the 4 hours prior, or 1hour 20 minutes after his read list?

[the worst]

@md/oxy sure, it might be too early to call it locktown. Still townreading him tho and theres a bit of lynchbaitiness there.

[Mathdino]

i'm feeling AP and sunshine and prob NSG tomorrow

if people could dive their ISOs that would be nice

[the worst]

I could actually lynch AP

Just havent bothered thinking about why yet

[Oxy]

@mathdino
You can call it lazy, but I'm not going to meta dive NSG while you're alive in the game

My best reason for scum reading him is still sensitivity to peoples' reads on him. I would wait a day. He could be scum, but my gut is calling him town, and tbh, gut has been about as good as head, lately

AP has scum equity in a world where 2/3 of my scum reads were wrong. I'll dive him this evening.

[Oxy]

oops, Line 2 was about sunshine

[Mathdino]

i don't have a problem with you guys deferring to me and my meta read on NSG
problem is just that i'm pretty obviously today's nightkill lol
like jailkeeper on me and if i get killed now you know there's no jailkeeper
but i feel like i'm threatening enough to be killed over draynth's PR?

so meta her when i die

the problem with sunshine is we know nothing of his scumrange

he's been playing town as fuck all game but he could just be really good