NY 213 - Game Over!

[TehBrawlGuy]

whemestar at L-2

hardclaim now

I’ll claim when there’s intent to hammer

this kind of post comes from Scum far more often than it does from Town.

So how bad does this post ping you?

lol

not claiming before intent

So I guess we have to assume that TBG must have just missed that post from SS and he's gonna firmly plant his vote there whenever he shows up.

After all what other reason would TBG have to ignore something scummy that SS said?

I don't like that post by Sajj, no. One bad post is not enough to overcome my scumread on you, and that shouldn't be surprising.

Also, context does matter. That kind of post is usually from Scum, but sometimes from PRs. D5, with one Scum dead, no PRs outed, her chances of being a PR are way higher than Wheme's were.

[Scioness Sajj]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

Wouldn't it be awful to run up sajj if he was a PR also?

this whole talk you've got your quote from was about JJD unvoting TBG

ONE MINUTE

after TBG claimed, even though JJD said he was already scumreading me more before TBG's claim. JJD got TBG's claim and immediately moved to me to get another claim.

[TehBrawlGuy]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

Wouldn't it be awful to run up sajj if he was a PR also?

???

getting the person you don't intend to lynch to claim is bad.

also sajj is still a she. it's literally in her name, scionESS, and it's right there under her avatar too. i don't really get how everyone keeps missing that

[TehBrawlGuy]

Beyond even that, he's attempted to milk the Wheme lynch for towncred really hard, which does ping me, but not that much because JJD's got an ego.

K PLEASE just be scum in this game and not genuinely this dense

u dont get to attack someone ON THE BASIS OF THE WHEME LYNCH and then when he defends himself go "look hes trying to milk towncred from the wheme lynch"

replace "dense" with "rude and incredibly condescending" and this is basically how I feel about you tbh

if you genuinely want to engage with me, don't be an ass and we can maybe talk

[Tchill13]

Sorry sajj. Left off the S. Apologies.

[Tchill13]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

Wouldn't it be awful to run up sajj if he was a PR also?

this whole talk you've got your quote from was about JJD unvoting TBG

ONE MINUTE

after TBG claimed, even though JJD said he was already scumreading me more before TBG's claim. JJD got TBG's claim and immediately moved to me to get another claim.

I'm saying that's bad logic on TBGs part. Something said specifically for him but fits for everyone else also.

[Scioness Sajj]

Scion should make her PR fakeclaim now imo too.

If my reads are completely wrong it shouldn't be this hard to lynch someone.

@TBG: Scion looked worse on the vote thing I was talking about, that's what I was getting at in the second half of that post.

I'm two-shot ascetic aesthetic pgo even night hood cop miller, lynch away.

Your reads had been pretty off from the beginning. It has been hard to lynch anybody from the beginning. You are not really pushing your reads, people are not sheeping you. What makes you think it should be easy to mislynch people now?

[JarJarDrinks]

getting the person you don't intend to lynch to claim is bad.

nah not always.

[TehBrawlGuy]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

Wouldn't it be awful to run up sajj if he was a PR also?

this whole talk you've got your quote from was about JJD unvoting TBG

ONE MINUTE

after TBG claimed, even though JJD said he was already scumreading me more before TBG's claim. JJD got TBG's claim and immediately moved to me to get another claim.

I'm saying that's bad logic on TBGs part. Something said specifically for him but fits for everyone else also.

it's not specifically for me, it's specifically for everyone who isn't Sajj, because that's who JJD's preferred lynch is.

if JJD's preferred lynch was me, then forcing Sajj's claim would be bad under the same logic, but JJD's preferred lynch is not me.

do you get it?

[TehBrawlGuy]

getting the person you don't intend to lynch to claim is bad.

nah not always.

not always, no, but generally speaking

in this particular instance where unclaimed townies are particularly likely to be PRs, it's pretty bad

[JarJarDrinks]

getting the person you don't intend to lynch to claim is bad.

nah not always.

not always, no, but generally speaking

in this particular instance where unclaimed townies are particularly likely to be PRs, it's pretty bad

yeah it definitely would be bad if I thought u were a townie.

[TehBrawlGuy]

i love that after spearheading the mislynch of two consecutive townies, there's not a thought in your mind that you might perhaps be wrong

[JarJarDrinks]

i love that after spearheading the mislynch of two consecutive townies, there's not a thought in your mind that you might perhaps be wrong

What gives you the impression that I don't have that thought? I literally said "if I thought u were a townie" implying that I don't

think

you are town.

Like that's the whole fricken reason I wanted your claim: to help me sort you. I'd love it if SS claimed RN as well so I'd have all the information I need before deciding which of you to lynch today.

[Tchill13]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

Wouldn't it be awful to run up sajj if he was a PR also?

this whole talk you've got your quote from was about JJD unvoting TBG

ONE MINUTE

after TBG claimed, even though JJD said he was already scumreading me more before TBG's claim. JJD got TBG's claim and immediately moved to me to get another claim.

I'm saying that's bad logic on TBGs part. Something said specifically for him but fits for everyone else also.

it's not specifically for me, it's specifically for everyone who isn't Sajj, because that's who JJD's preferred lynch is.

if JJD's preferred lynch was me, then forcing Sajj's claim would be bad under the same logic, but JJD's preferred lynch is not me.

do you get it?

Yes but I believe at least 3 ppl believe you're both scum. Me, jjd, hopkirk. I'm sure a few others may.

[Tchill13]

i love that after spearheading the mislynch of two consecutive townies, there's not a thought in your mind that you might perhaps be wrong

I think maybe wrong but I'm trying. I'm not one to hesitate after mistakes. If I'm wrong I'm wrong with 100 percent effort.

[Tchill13]

Trust me I realize how dense I'm coming off from your perspective TBG, you gotta be lynched though. Above everything else you're the first priority.

Sajj is next. Then we go from there.

[Krazy]

VOTE: JarjarDrinks
Yeah I think this is shady enough
I was asking you about your reasons TBG to see if you had anything about his voting patterns, and while it wasn't as much of a smoking gun as I hoped I did see some stuff about it that made me feel like it was a good vote

I'm just going to say this JJD wagon might be the worst wagon in the game to date, and Gamma tried to lead it.

The three leading wagons are all probably town. Scion is the only one I might be wrong on, but I don't think I am.

CFD onto Gamma would be a good CFD.

Vote Gamma

[Hopkirk]

Trust me I realize how dense I'm coming off from your perspective TBG

, you gotta be lynched though. Above everything else you're the first priority.

Sajj is next. Then we go from there.

What are you saying here?

[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: JarjarDrinks
Yeah I think this is shady enough
I was asking you about your reasons TBG to see if you had anything about his voting patterns, and while it wasn't as much of a smoking gun as I hoped I did see some stuff about it that made me feel like it was a good vote

I'm just going to say this JJD wagon might be the worst wagon in the game to date, and Gamma tried to lead it.

The three leading wagons are all probably town. Scion is the only one I might be wrong on, but I don't think I am.

CFD onto Gamma would be a good CFD.

Vote Gamma

Aint happening so u gotta pick a horse. If Scion is the TR u have doubts on then throw down a vote there.

[Scioness Sajj]

then why didn't you swap to Sajj then? You stayed on me and forced my claim, which could've been awful if I were a PR.

VOTE: jjd

Wouldn't it be awful to run up sajj if he was a PR also?

this whole talk you've got your quote from was about JJD unvoting TBG

ONE MINUTE

after TBG claimed, even though JJD said he was already scumreading me more before TBG's claim. JJD got TBG's claim and immediately moved to me to get another claim.

I'm saying that's bad logic on TBGs part. Something said specifically for him but fits for everyone else also.

Yeah, you are right that it fits for everyone in that situation but I don't think there's anything bad with it. It just happened to him so he said it about himself.

Sorry sajj. Left off the S. Apologies.

it's fine, i don't mind as long as i know you are talking about me.

[Scioness Sajj]

Trust me I realize how dense I'm coming off from your perspective TBG, you gotta be lynched though. Above everything else you're the first priority.

Sajj is next. Then we go from there.

any particular reason why tbg gets priority?

[Scioness Sajj]

what info

Their claimed role obv.

and how does it help you read them?

Uhh, same way anything someone says helps you read them?

These were some really shitty questions Gamma.

Well your play is shitty. Tell me one way in which what you're doing cannot be described as rolefishing.

Sure, rolefishing implies a hidden agenda to find someones role.

I am outright asking for the role of a scummy player.

just because you asked it openly doesn't make it any better, though.

[wavemode]

VOTE: JarjarDrinks
Yeah I think this is shady enough
I was asking you about your reasons TBG to see if you had anything about his voting patterns, and while it wasn't as much of a smoking gun as I hoped I did see some stuff about it that made me feel like it was a good vote

I'm just going to say this JJD wagon might be the worst wagon in the game to date, and Gamma tried to lead it.

The three leading wagons are all probably town. Scion is the only one I might be wrong on, but I don't think I am.

CFD onto Gamma would be a good CFD.

Vote Gamma

probably our best CFD would be you

[JarJarDrinks]

what info

Their claimed role obv.

and how does it help you read them?

Uhh, same way anything someone says helps you read them?

These were some really shitty questions Gamma.

Well your play is shitty. Tell me one way in which what you're doing cannot be described as rolefishing.

Sure, rolefishing implies a hidden agenda to find someones role.

I am outright asking for the role of a scummy player.

just because you asked it openly doesn't make it any better, though.

Has nothing to do w what I said.

I was asked to explain a difference between rolefishing and what I was doing which I did.

[Krazy]

Aint happening so u gotta pick a horse. If Scion is the TR u have doubts on then throw down a vote there.

If you want my vote, give me a reason. Trying to badger me into sheeping a leading wagon will not work. I have a pretty explicit case on Gamma, whereas the case on Scion fails to explain the logical structure of her supposed Wheme bus. Gamma definitely bussed, for Scion it is maybe plausible but unlikely. TBG and JJD almost certainly did not and are very close to locktown.

All three of these wagons are shitty, and you trying to goad people into sheeping you onto probable town is not helping JJD.

Give me one good reason you are not voting Gamma.