SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

Punreader · Post Post #3525 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:58 pm

I have returned. This may take me a while.

ISO · Post Post #3526 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:03 pm

Welcome back! Finally might have someone who facepalms as hard at this gamestate as I do.

Punreader · Post Post #3527 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:09 pm

In post 3364, the worst wrote:but we need to make sure there's actually a tomorrow. trust me back?

Oh there's a tomorrow no matter what.

The problem is leaving tomorrow winnable.

In post 3337, Shoshin wrote:Like, you'd think he would have reevaluated his reads after that terrible read on Shepard, but instead he's doubling down on his bad reads.

Sorry, I don't act the way you want me to act. I act the way I

should

act. And calling the pun as I see them is what I should do.

In post 3353, Shoshin wrote:Mafia is among guac, the worst, Krazy, and DV. Two of those are mafia. From the worst's perspective, this game should be easy. What's there to discuss?

Save for one or two players excluded, that is literally the entirety of the town.

In post 3345, the worst wrote:- from a meta point of view you're looking at Espe who is a VERY good busser and FireAss who I don't really have a strong sense of the meta on.

I'll answer for you: Fire Assassin is far more likely to claim a guilty on a punbuddy than on a town player.

In post 3348, the worst wrote:Considering how badly executed this would've been if it were a cross bus?

Well on Fire Assassin's part, naturally.

On Espeonage's part, this seems par for the course from him.

Your argument for Espeonage being town is still fallacious because you're literally using Burden of Proficiency combined with "too punny to be pun". ("Too half-assed to be bussing" is exactly that.)

Punreader · Post Post #3528 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:12 pm

In post 3527, Punreader wrote:
In post 3348, the worst wrote:Considering how badly executed this would've been if it were a cross bus?
Well on Fire Assassin's part, naturally.

What I mean by this is, Fire Assassin is precisely the type of player that would execute an abysmally bad cross-bus.

It goes hand-in-hand with fakeclaiming guilties as town; that's just the sort of player he is.

Punreader · Post Post #3529 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:36 pm

In post 3481, the worst wrote:it actually just kinda occurred to me that if Pun is holding their shot, a no-lynch might be in our best interests.
but I feel like it's better to no-lynch tomorrow, instead...

I would not recommend a no-lynch, but were we to, I'd shoot guacamole.

Punreader · Post Post #3530 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:39 pm

In post 3523, Shoshin wrote:It'd be nice if anyone who isn't voting the worst or DV could weigh in on those lynches...

I refuse to vote town on principle and both are town.

I'd rather lynch guacamole, and as established, even that's less than ideal.

Krazy · Post Post #3531 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:55 pm

Pun I'm not sure I understand your logic that the worst is town. I can at this point follow the reasons you suspect Sho. I think it's reasonable to suspect Sho if you are ignoring her playstyle.

But why is the worst town? I don't understand.

I also feel like I'm with you on some points for Espeonage, but I feel like it doesn't work overall. Sure, if it was just a matter of ranking phase lowkey bussing, I'd see Vax getting 0'd out. But I feel like the larger point was made that if they ensure Vax get's 0'd out then there's no way for them to get a free nightkill on Dunn. I mean, maybe scum bus, maybe they don't bus, but would they really value the bus over a free nightkill?

I feel like the argument that Espeonage is not basically locktown based on the ranking phase votes from FA and Shep/Nah is pretty suspect.

And if you accept that guac is not certainly scum, then why are you confident that the worst (FYPOV) is not Sho's scumbuddy (who you seem certain on?)

Shoshin · Post Post #3532 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:01 pm

In post 3526, the worst wrote:Welcome back! Finally might have someone who facepalms as hard at this gamestate as I do.

I suggest you work on convincing Pun to lynch DV, as well as convincing Pun that I'm town, because otherwise you're probably getting lynched today, and without you around, Pun's going to mislynch me tomorrow.

DeasVail · Post Post #3533 (ISO) » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:26 pm

In post 3531, Krazy wrote:Pun I'm not sure I understand your logic that the worst is town. I can at this point follow the reasons you suspect Sho. I think it's reasonable to suspect Sho if you are ignoring her playstyle.

But why is the worst town? I don't understand.

I also feel like I'm with you on some points for Espeonage, but I feel like it doesn't work overall. Sure, if it was just a matter of ranking phase lowkey bussing, I'd see Vax getting 0'd out. But I feel like the larger point was made that if they ensure Vax get's 0'd out then there's no way for them to get a free nightkill on Dunn. I mean, maybe scum bus, maybe they don't bus, but would they really value the bus over a free nightkill?

I feel like the argument that Espeonage is not basically locktown based on the ranking phase votes from FA and Shep/Nah is pretty suspect.

And if you accept that guac is not certainly scum, then why are you confident that the worst (FYPOV) is not Sho's scumbuddy (who you seem certain on?)

This is a good post.

Krazy · Post Post #3534 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:33 am

In post 3532, Shoshin wrote:
In post 3526, the worst wrote:Welcome back! Finally might have someone who facepalms as hard at this gamestate as I do.
I suggest you work on convincing Pun to lynch DV, as well as convincing Pun that I'm town, because otherwise you're probably getting lynched today, and without you around, Pun's going to mislynch me tomorrow.

I thought tw was one of your top fos? Now he's locktown?

Shoshin · Post Post #3535 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:39 am

In post 3534, Krazy wrote: I thought tw was one of your top fos? Now he's locktown?

I never said he was locktown so I'm not sure what that's about.

Errantparabola · Post Post #3536 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:01 am

Votecount 5.8

the worst

(3): Vaxkiller, Krazy, DeasVail

DeasVail

(2): Shoshin, the worst

Espeonage

(2): Punreader, guacamole

Krazy

(1): Espeonage

Not Voting

(0):

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to achieve a majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2018-08-17 09:55:00)

Prods going out to Vax and Espe. I won't count this as Espe's one prod for now due to potential real life circumstances.

Vaxkiller · Post Post #3537 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:26 pm

Where is the info of who gave who waht number?

Vaxkiller · Post Post #3538 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:27 pm

I've been doing my reads without it.

Vaxkiller · Post Post #3539 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:28 pm

Pun if you just claimed 3rd party I would trust you more.

Vaxkiller · Post Post #3540 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:28 pm

The fact taht your not makes me think your an SK and cant win with us.

Krazy · Post Post #3541 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:56 pm

Scum Ratings

Fire Assassin:

Spoiler:

Nahdia/C.Shep

Spoiler:

Living Player Ratings

The Worst:

Spoiler:

Shoshin:

Spoiler:

ManWithNoName/Guac

Spoiler:

Punreader

Spoiler:

Chara/Krazy

Spoiler:

DeasVail

Spoiler:

Espeonage

Spoiler:

Vax

Spoiler:

Vaxkiller · Post Post #3542 (ISO) » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:19 pm

thanks.

Desavail looks the worst with those. I can be cohered to lynch there I guess

Krazy · Post Post #3543 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:35 am

Just went to sleep for 9 hours and woke up to no new posts but if I miss a daily post I get modkilled reeeeeeeeeeeeee

Errantparabola · Post Post #3544 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:36 am

I’m going to try to replace Espeonage.

guacamole · Post Post #3545 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:18 am

Torn between knowing we shouldn't read anything into that, and suspecting we should.

Vaxkiller · Post Post #3546 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:25 am

In post 3545, guacamole wrote:Torn between knowing we shouldn't read anything into that, and suspecting we should.

Yuck

Espeonage · Post Post #3547 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:49 am

Hi all, I've been prodded, I should have some time tonight.

Errantparabola · Post Post #3548 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:38 am

That's Espeonage's one prod, then. Will not replace.

ISO · Post Post #3549 (ISO) » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:43 pm

I'm still really happy voting here. I cannot work out what Krazy is expecting me to see here. DV is less likely to flip scum than {Krazy, guac} but he's in the PoE and if we actually have a loved scumfuck we're in serious trouble.

sooo