Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[northsidegal]

VC 1.07

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[4] Suka

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Nero Cain 47, OkaPoka 71, YyottaCat 337, BrightEyedFish 349

[3] DrDolittle

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Leodanny 107, rb 163, Varsoon 370

[1] BrightEyedFish

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Suka 343

[1] YyottaCat

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Kmd4390 23

[1] Nero Cain

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DrDolittle 55

[1] rb

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Creature 18

[1] Nero Cain

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mbaki 357

[1] Not Voting

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Vorkuta 386

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

The Day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-12-21 12:00:59)

Mod Notes

: Kmd4390 is V/LA until Saturday.

[rb]

anyone want to help me get caught up? Is YyottaCat still the best lynch?

wow i had high hopes for you imo

[Suka]

"Justification" is scummy. And Nero should know better than to suspect me for voting without it.

[rb]

"Justification" is scummy.

wow..

[Nero Cain]

I rather lynch Suka or Mbaki

u wanna talk about this supposed scum read on me?

Sure, man.

lets start with your read and changes on me.

Nero on the town side

Very slight toward scum I guess. No strong opinion to give.

I rather lynch Suka or Mbaki. I'd compromise on DDL though.

VOTE: Nero Cain

No.

talk more about how you go from town reading me to me being your #1 scum read and you want me lynched. If your sole justification for scumreading me is that I'm not meta reading a string of posts then I think that's pretty weak. Sans meta, why is Creature town and why am I more likely to be scum pushing Creature than town misreading him?

I agree with 123.

Oka and Vork kinda kinda feel like partners trying to force interactions.

So which one(s) do you think are scum and which aren’t?

Neither, particularly. It was a throwaway comment for now. If there are more between those slots in the future or if one ends up flipping scum, that is when it becomes relevant.

@mbaki

-how do you read suka and DDL?

I have no strong feelings.

My reads right now are RB, Creature, Nero on the town side, possibly Varsoon as well, and YYotta on the scum side slightly. Nobody else is worth mentioning.

Woah, woah, woah.
Slow down.
A player of my caliber?
What informs this?

Also, I don't see how you get off playing the 'Varsoon is experienced' card while also casting my postulation that 'Nero sorts himself out' as pocketing rather than me just sharing meta experience.

As for my YYotta vote, that was never a serious vote and was only meant to highlight Oka talking out of their ass.

That's fine. I'm not interested in lynching you as of now. Just pointing out you're not a town read like I recalled.

mbaki, what's your current read on Nero?

Very slight toward scum I guess. No strong opinion to give.

I could lynch every one of the posters from the last two pages, this is going to be a long game.

Your scum hunting seems very weak and fence sitty. You're just blowing in the breeze and leaving your options open and I think thats pretty likely scum play. Your sole hard scum read, YyottaCat, whom you aren't even voting for anymore, you never even tried to convince anyone to vote there.

[Nero Cain]

"Justification" is scummy. And Nero should know better than to suspect me for voting without it.

I ain't never played with you b4. If you are town you should absolutely be giving justifications for the actions you do and the ppl that you vote otherwise how would you ever convince anyone?

Though metaing you now, that micro you played in you just did a series of votes but it's possible that you are just going for a NM type meta and without a scumgame to compare it to I can't really say this is or isn't a town game.

[Suka]

Persuading isn't helpful. Besides the obvious problem of confirmation bias, it gives the scum cover to sheep.

I've made my top suspect clear. If someone needs explanation to see that my perspective comes from town, I'm happy to oblige. But don't expect unsolicited explanations. And regardless, I'll never "justify."

[Nero Cain]

but on the flip side there's plenty of potential scum motivation in not giving reasons for your votes.

Can you tell me why you were scum reading me pre-114?

[Suka]

Can you tell me why you were scum reading me pre-114?

You were less town than others.

[mbaki]

mbaki, why don't you townread me despite having the same reaction to Nero's posting?

A good question indeed.

[mbaki]

Your sole hard scum read, YyottaCat

I have never called YYotta a scumread.

[mbaki]

Sans meta

Unfortunately, sans meta is not how we are playing mafia. If you prefer to play in meta-less games Town of Salem might be more your speed.

[mbaki]

talk more about how you go from town reading me to

me being your #1 scum read

and you want me lynched

Talk more about how the first 20 pages of a game are not allowed to have read changes. I town read you for weak reasons, now I scum read you for weak reasons. Welcome to day 1 of a mafia game. And stop with the underlined, you are adding things in that were never said

constantly

, and it is more argumentative than debate-y.

[BrightEyedFish]

talk more about how you go from town reading me to

me being your #1 scum read

and you want me lynched

Talk more about how the first 20 pages of a game are not allowed to have read changes. I town read you for weak reasons, now I scum read you for weak reasons. Welcome to day 1 of a mafia game. And stop with the underlined, you are adding things in that were never said

constantly

, and it is more argumentative than debate-y.

Nero does make a point. Of course you can have read changes but are your read changes based on evidence or just on gut reads?

I too, am getting a weird vibe from your posts

[mbaki]

Don't you have to read the game to get a vibe?

[BrightEyedFish]

Don't you have to read the game to get a vibe?

I asked you a question first.

[rb]

i'd lynch like 5 other people before mbaki at this point, even though i think Nero is right his play isn't great i don't think the bar is very high right now

[rb]

mbaki, why don't you townread me despite having the same reaction to Nero's posting?

zzzzzzz

[rb]

btw nero is my top townread

[Leodanny]

Wat what is your top scumread?

[Leodanny]

*Wait

[mbaki]

Don't you have to read the game to get a vibe?

I asked you a question first.

Not a question that has any value.

[Varsoon]

i'd lynch like 5 other people before mbaki at this point, even though i think Nero is right his play isn't great i don't think the bar is very high right now

Who are these 5 mystery scummers?

[northsidegal]

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