Mini Normal 2058 (Endgame)

[Shoshin]

You seem very fency and non-committal.

I've committed to everything I've said. What's "fency"? Be specific.

[YellowSnow]

You seem like you'd be willing to vote for almost any player.

[Creature]

Anyone still thinks YellowSnow is scum?

[Yachting n Socializing]

You seem like you'd be willing to vote for almost any player.

This is not a scum tell.

[YellowSnow]

Fence sitting is a scum tell

[Shoshin]

I don't know your alignment. I think mechanical analysis tends to come from scum because it's such an easy way to push mislynches on players while ignoring relevant evidence. I also think the vast majority of townies aren't mechanical thinkers, so when you see someone who is, I look closely at what those players are doing. You seemed to be ignoring relevant evidence so I dunno, felt scummy.

Eh, your above post attributed it far more to playstyle than my alignment. I don't see what I'm ignoring? I dropped my Boon push when I saw it wasn't right, and I switched my Creature read when he proved me wrong.

The above post was directed towards you. When I talk to anyone directly, I treat them as town. Otherwise, why talk to them?

I didn't say you aren't changing reads based on new information. I'm also not pushing your lynch, so this conversation is mostly irrelevant for today.

[Shoshin]

You seem like you'd be willing to vote for almost any player.

This is untrue. I expressly said who I'm unwilling to vote for today. It was the majority of players. Why are you making stuff up about me?

[Shoshin]

Because it seems like you are purposefully holding back. COA had meta on you and you are not playing like a high quality town player.

What do you mean, "purposefully holding back"? As for the "high quality town player" thing, what's your basis for saying my play isn't "high quality"? Do you KNOW my reads are wrong? Which reads do you disagree with?

Yellow, answer these questions. Which of my reads do you disagree with?

[Yachting n Socializing]

I'll drop it because as I said I am not interested in your lynch today either. But I am not interested in your lynch of choice (Roomy, DDL) either, and that is a problem.

I have Tarkus as null. He feels less scummy than his play in one of his scum games, but I need to check his town games because he's still lurking here in ways that resemble scum.

Can you do this and get back to me please?

[RadiantCowbells]

Vedith I think is scum

[RadiantCowbells]

Gotta hit scum today so that people respect my reads enough not to lynch my townreads unfortunately.

I'm going to be very careful about where my votesgoes.

[Yachting n Socializing]

[]@BOATS LOOK AT THIS POST LATER[]

[RadiantCowbells]

Thinking more and more that morality is woofing.

[RadiantCowbells]

Purely associatively at this point.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 1.6

YellowSnow(1)Vorkuta;

RCEnigma(1)

Aurathebirb

;

Creature(3)CultOfAthena;RCEnigma;RadiantCowbells;

Shoshin(3)Morality;DrDolittle;YellowSnow;

CultOfAthena(0)

RadiantCowbells(0)

Aurathebirb

(0)

Morality

u r a person 2

(0)

Vorkuta(0)

Boats n Hoes(1)Vedith;

Vedith

Sniperlyfe77

(0)

DrDolittle

roomy

(1)Shoshin;

Tarkus(2)Boats n Hoes;Creature;

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(1)Tarkus;

With 13 alive it is 7 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-02-27 10:35:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.

[RadiantCowbells]

particularly because i think that shoshin is town

like if i put myself into this game it's exactly what i'd do from his point of view

if he lynches shoshin, nightkills me, CoA is uninvested and can no longer push a lynch on him. the game is over. it's an amazingly high value mislynch to obtain that will probably become an asston harder later.
I even think that there's very very high odds that DrDoLittle is a buddy and that scum are willing to literally all group up and clusterfuck Shoshin to bring her down.

[Yachting n Socializing]

I would rather lynch Tarkus over Morality or Vedith. All 3 are fine lynches though. Shoshin is not acceptable today, nor is Creature.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm the nightkill, he knows he can't win in a 1v1 on me and pushing on me creates 1v1s so why take that angle of approach. makes more sense to call me town. not a long commitment.

shoshin is the single best person to lynch today from scum!Morality's point of view.

[RadiantCowbells]

Same reason that he's trying to discredit and rip apart my townblock, he needs more mislynches. And the IC is a weak player who is just going to eat it up hook line and sinker because they don't realize that trying to seem towny != town.

[RadiantCowbells]

As it happens right now I think Tarkus is the weakest lynch contender in the scumpool.

[Yachting n Socializing]

Same reason that he's trying to discredit and rip apart my townblock, he needs more mislynches. And the IC is a weak player who is just going to eat it up hook line and sinker because they don't realize that trying to seem towny != town.

The IC is fine, he's engaging in discussion and remaining involved in the game. and if you assume Morality is scum, that makes sense. Shoshin is also not an unreasonable push for town to make though, you yourself had him lower in reads when Boon did, as did Creature who is likely another town. So I don't think that Shoshin town necessitates Morality scum at all (nor do I think Shoshin is definitely town).

How do you rank the lynch pool right now?

[DrDolittle]

Just making a comment that I'm really enjoying this game and glad I've replaced in but probably engaging tomorrow!

[Shoshin]

VOTE: Morality

[YellowSnow]

This is where I'm at on this game.

Aura

, Vorkuta, Enigma,

Radiant

, and

COA

are my strongest townreads. I won't consider lynching here unless everyone else is dead. And I think there's reasons to scumread every other player in the game.

I'm trusting Radiant that

Boats

/

Snow

is town, at least for today. I was scumreading Boats because his analysis is so mechanical, almost reminds me of someone like Mathblade, but I'm willing to let that go for the moment. I had Snow as strong town earlier but after reading through one of his scum games I don't feel comfortable with that read anymore. I think the way he quickly changed course on his reads was opportunistic in precisely the same ways he was opportunistic as scum, plus I think his forgetfulness about Aura isn't as towny as I thought on first impression.

I have

Tarkus

as null. He feels less scummy than his play in one of his scum games, but I need to check his town games because he's still lurking here in ways that resemble scum.

Vedith

is playing like trollish scum. I have nothing to say on this because despite scumreading his slot, I've been told his is just how he plays by Radiant. So, again, I'm willing to leave this slow alone for today.

I scumread Morality from the start of the game. I thought he was trying too hard in the early parts of the game, cluttering the game with tons of pointless posts, and he hasn't actually made any attempt to scumhunt. His recent posts trying to cast me as scum aren't great either, especially since he seems to be doing the typical scum thing of ignoring large aspects of what I'm doing so that he can make me look scummy. Radiant agrees with this read, so

Morality

is up for lynching as far as I'm concerned.

roomy gave me strong vibes. I thought the fact that he replaced out after just a small amount of bickering from two players felt fake, especially since it didn't even involve him.

DDL

's play has been shit. His meta on me is crap. His attempt to scumread both me and Enigma is based entirely on dumb details that have nothing to do with alignment (e.g. his notion that haven't been following up on things when I'm actually following up on everthing, just not necessarily shitting the thread up with all my thoughts). I think he's scumreading me and Enigma based on associative tells rather than actual scumhunting (e.g. me and Enigma are townreading each other, so it seems like we're a team, even though there's actaully really good reasons for each of us to be townreadig each other).

Creature

lurked out the first parts of the game, then entered the game posting lots of crap, superficial and shitty scumread on me that he should know better than to hold, especially after Starcraft Mafia, so who knows? I don't feel like he's been making a fair attempt at trying to read me, at least in the ways he usually will do. I also think Creature usually makes more of an attempt to fairly read lower post count players like myself, so the fact that he isn't doing that here is very concerning. He's probably scum.

If I had to guess a scumteam, I'd guess Creature, DDL, Morality (coincidence that they're all scumreading me?), and if those are wrong, it's Vedith with maybe Boats/Snow/Tarkus.

Green=Agree Red=Disagree Blue=Confirmed

[Morality]

Lol at the “trying too hard” comment.

I’m barely trying at all here. You wanna see trying too hard? Go check out my 1k+ post game.

Anyone who’s played with me can clearly see I’m barely putting any effort into this game as compared to normal.