Open 754: Fire and Ice (Game Over) Fire Mafia wins.

[pinturicchio]

I have to say I’m really surprised by Vedith scum.

I'm not surprised at all. I had no wim to push him, but I fucking knew it

[pinturicchio]

Hey Allo, you're not scumreading Vedith yet, what's wrong with you

cuz he's not scummy

Maybe that means he's scum now?

Fuck Allo, we had him in page 5

[pinturicchio]

Right now Scum are most likely all among Allo BEF worm springtrap maad and Grand.
As it stands I don't lynch outside if these 5.

So! This is the most important post I found about Vedith, since I'm looking for associations. The living players:
maadneet, Ceejayvinoya, Pinturicchio, BrightEyedFish, insomnia, ‪Dr Worm, rosterfoster

maadneet, vivi, BEF and me out of the equation.

The interesting thing about the post I'm quoting is that our beloved Dr. Worm was a townread from Vedith, but out of the blue he says he doesn't lynch outside of those five players, including Worm. If Vedith tried to distance from his partner, Dr. Worm is most likely the partner.

Now, when I did my case on EWAF, Vedith jumped with a "Eyes is town" and didn't comment about that at all, and Eyes had some gross interactions with Vedith early game that could be taken as "town following a townread" or "scum scummying with his scumpartner". I'm inclined to believe the latter.

[pinturicchio]

Eyes, Rooster, Maad (if not CC), Pintu and Worm town.

Actually, at this stage it makes sense to remove a night kill since I'm confident in the town section.
If I'm wrong on a town, it's worm, but I don't think so.

VOTE: Ceej

UNVOTE: Ceej

I want to think first.

Also I was thinking about Orfhz. When we were Scum in donner party they distanced from me.
Same with Elsa and Orfhz, they distanced or just ignored.

I think that if Ceej is Scum they are from the team of 2.

So two more comments:

1. Vedith called Dr. Worm town again, but then says "if I'm wrong on town it's worm". I now think that what Vedith was trying to do is to set a mislynch for later when needed, like an ace under his sleeve.

2. Vedith voting Vivi, then saying that Vivi is probably from the team of 2 and that he would rather lynch the remaining ice mafia, and then changing his mind when I told him that the doc would survive with both mafia teams alive, and never go back to Vivi... Vivi could be Vedith's partner. The "Vivi is probably from the team of 2" seems like a cheeky scumfuck comment to me

[pinturicchio]

By the way, if someone starts having doubts about my alignment because I'm posting too much: I've been consistent during the entire game as the more engaged player, to the point of hammering a player I was townreading because of frustration with the gamestate. If you think I'm trying to derail town to a mislynch with hyper posting, guess what? Why would I do this instead of laying back and let you guys kill each other, why bother if even the doctor protected me?

So follow my fucking lead. If you don't agree with me, go on, give me your reasons and I'm all ears, but we haven't lynched even one fucking mafia and we're still winning, so let's take the opportunity.

[BrightEyedFish]

Actually, at this stage it makes sense to remove a night kill since I'm confident in the town section.
If I'm wrong on a town, it's worm, but I don't think so.

VOTE: Ceej

UNVOTE: Ceej

I want to think first.

I agree with pintu on basically everything.

Yeah, this looks bad for ceejay.
Roster, rui, and worm should also be up for discussion.

[ceejayvinoya]

[brassherald]

The higher gods had spoken and, insomnia, having committed a crime against all of human kind, is banned for the next 3 months.
Finding a replacement.

Votecount 3.1

Not Voting (7)~

maadneet, Ceejayvinoya, Pinturicchio, BrightEyedFish, insomnia, ‪Dr Worm, rosterfoster

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2019-04-14 17:00:00).

[brassherald]

That ban is being reviewed, so for now, I will stop searching for a replacement.

[brassherald]

Due to confusion about a slot, I will add a day to the current day phase, this will be reflected in my previous vote count.

Insomnia remains in the game, as per the change in ban status.

[ceejayvinoya]

soooo are you all going to talk or will you all just burn this free day were given

[pinturicchio]

I'm too frustrated with lazy townies in this game. Impossible to solve the game if the town is doing exactly the same what scum is doing

[BrightEyedFish]

I will get caught up later today. Got busy yesterday but I will have a decent amount of time later today.

[ceejayvinoya]

lols let me remember where I'm at.

I remember townreading Pintu and Insomnia.

BEF is probably town. I find it hard to see that he could be partnered with either Offers or Vedith.

[BrightEyedFish]

Brassherald thought about how, despite only having one sibling, he is still somehow the middle child.

Votecount 1.FINAL

Allomancer (7)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo, BrightEyedFish, rosterfoster,Pinturicchio

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet, Springtrap

Ceejayvinoya(1)~

RuiRui

Eyes Without a Face (1)~

Allomancer

A lynch has been achieved.

Mod Notes:

RuiRui will need to pick up the prod by PM within 24 hours of the mod to prevent replacement

And then everyone died... Actually, no.

Votecount 900000

GrandWazoo (6)~

BrightEyedFish, Pinturicchio, Ceejayvinoya, Vedith, insomnia, Rosterfoster

Insomnia (1)~

GrandWazooo

maadneet (1)~

Dr Worm

BrightEyedFish (1)~

RuiRui

Not Voting (1)~

maadneet

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Grandwazoo has died, this game is now flipless.

So flipless now.... Great....

The only people still alive on both wagons are:
Me, pintu, insomnia, and roster

I think roster has the best potential to flip red from that list:

VOTE: Roster

Anyone finding anything else out through the VCA?

[BrightEyedFish]

Ohh so it's not flip less... Great

[insomnia]

I’m at school, I’ve been skimming and I do think ceejay / dr worm is red

I’m suspecting ice maf is more of a lurker and not contributing with anything

Pintu still town, I still am suspicious of BEF flipping red because of him leading the wagon and Vedith jumped on it

I’d argue today’s lynch will be between ceejay / BEF , Vedith had BEF as a scum read but he didn’t push him, instead he pushed with him

These are my current thoughts, I’ll get to game solving with pintucheerios so he isn’t lonely

I’ll be really active in like 6 hours

[ceejayvinoya]

Your current thoughts suck.

Vedith tried to get BEF lynched yesterday and would have gotten away with it if Pintu have played along.

What's keeping Dr. Worm from your today's lynch list?

[BrightEyedFish]

I’m at school, I’ve been skimming and I do think ceejay / dr worm is red

I’m suspecting ice maf is more of a lurker and not contributing with anything

Pintu still town, I still am suspicious of BEF flipping red because of him leading the wagon and Vedith jumped on it

I’d argue today’s lynch will be between ceejay / BEF , Vedith had BEF as a scum read but he didn’t push him, instead he pushed with him

These are my current thoughts, I’ll get to game solving with pintucheerios so he isn’t lonely

I’ll be really active in like 6 hours

Worm lead GW wagon, he just jumped off after it picked up steam.
Vedith knew that GW would flip green so he really didn't care how he got lynched.

[insomnia]

Your current thoughts suck.

Vedith tried to get BEF lynched yesterday and would have gotten away with it if Pintu have played along.

What's keeping Dr. Worm from your today's lynch list?

At least I have scum reads

[brassherald]

There was a nice spread of sandwich meats that day.

Votecount 3.2

RosterFoster (1)~

BrightEyedFish

Not Voting (6)~

maadneet, Ceejayvinoya, Pinturicchio, insomnia, ‪Dr Worm, rosterfoster

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2019-04-14 17:00:00).

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[pinturicchio]

I'll read the game again (it's short enough to do that), recognize two other fellow townies along with maadneet and I'll just quicklynch whoever's outside of those 4 players. Pre reread, the three would be Vivi, insomnia and Dr. Worm, but more to come.

[ceejayvinoya]

Your current thoughts suck.

Vedith tried to get BEF lynched yesterday and would have gotten away with it if Pintu have played along.

What's keeping Dr. Worm from your today's lynch list?

At least I have scum reads

fair

But heeey no scumreads > wrong scumreads

Anything to say about my two other statements?

I'll be happy to join you in a Dr. Worm wagon.

[ceejayvinoya]

I'll read the game again (it's short enough to do that), recognize two other fellow townies along with maadneet and I'll just quicklynch whoever's outside of those 4 players. Pre reread, the three would be Vivi, insomnia and Dr. Worm, but more to come.

Go Pintu, beat the crap out of this game.

[insomnia]

Your current thoughts suck.

Vedith tried to get BEF lynched yesterday and would have gotten away with it if Pintu have played along.

What's keeping Dr. Worm from your today's lynch list?

At least I have scum reads

fair

But heeey no scumreads > wrong scumreads

Anything to say about my two other statements?

I'll be happy to join you in a Dr. Worm wagon.

It’s day 3 ceejay, how can you have no scum reads? Like the PoE shouldn’t even be hard right now