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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:23 am

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In post 701, Volxen MJL Combo Pack wrote:
In post 687, Powerpuff Girls wrote: 3.
MJL's absence
: MJL is usually pretty involved as town; she's not made a single post this game. Unless she siteflaked (and I believe that's not the case), this should be scum indicative for MJL.

To the Combo Pack: If you're town, and not finding time to discuss reads with each other, it would help me read you if you posted your thoughts as individuals rather than lurk out waiting for an opportunity. I will not move our vote till my concerns are cleared / I have sufficient reason to townread you; and MJL starts being active.
I totally understand your concern, except this is more Volxen's game and I'm just tagging along. I planned to share my updated reads with Volxen, but I'll also post them here so you can get my thoughts directly from me.

I'm not sure where you're getting your meta on me from, but of all completed games I've participated in, only one was scum.

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You absolutely need to post a lot more. Bubbles is convinced she can correctly read Volxen and I bet I can correctly parse you, given sufficient content to decipher.


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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:08 am

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In post 744, Hydra TBD wrote:
In post 740, Powerpuff Girls wrote:
In post 738, Hydra TBD wrote:I think alchemist can be read by how coherent/sensible his posts are and whether he's actively scummy or not and in this game he "lacks scum" to me
Check out his ISO in Starcraft 2. I think he was pretty coherent there, and not actively scummy - can you show me the distinction between his posts there versus in this game?

-Bubbles
Yeah I really don't care enough about this game to go read 150 pages of cold meta, "sensible" or "not sensible" requires understanding the gamestate and not just reading an iso, my reads are much better in games that I'm actually in or at least spectating, and I wouldn't be super interested in explaining specific things that I think are meta tells anyway because I also want to win games other than this one, so, basically, no.

I've played with scum alchemist and he was really scummy, his reads just didn't make sense, whereas in this game he's often posted what I was thinking which implies an uninformed perspective, etc.

- TBD
Which game did you play with me? Get a clue? Or maybe it was that mini Normal where I was scum neighborizer? Anyway, the warning against trusting my meta are absolutely on point because SC2 was me playing up my Town meta well enough to fool one of the top 3 people who can read me. I will say another member of the top 3 did still accurately read me but they replaced in after I didn’t have to keep trying as hard and had dropped the act.
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:17 am

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Why are so many people not voting anyone? More of y’all need to put a vote somewhere. This kind of gamestate is giving scum room to hide and letting them get away with not committing to any pushes.
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:39 am

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VOTE: Shiro
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:54 am

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I feel like scum is controlling the lynch right now and I hate it.
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:04 am

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In post 719, Liger_Zero wrote:
In post 709, Shiro wrote:
In post 706, Liger_Zero wrote:More votes on this ^
Nah you are the scum here tryin got go for the easy target :P
You are not helping yourself by self labeling yourself as an easy target.
In post 718, u r a person 2 wrote:I also am scum reading alchemist.

Anyone else scum reading alchemist?
No, not really.
I mean, I am lurking to the maximum degree. Can't deny the truth
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shiro you are a charmer you were obvscum but for some reason people just wouldn't eliminate you ~Antihero
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:26 am

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In post 780, Shiro wrote:
In post 719, Liger_Zero wrote:
In post 709, Shiro wrote:
In post 706, Liger_Zero wrote:More votes on this ^
Nah you are the scum here tryin got go for the easy target :P
You are not helping yourself by self labeling yourself as an easy target.
In post 718, u r a person 2 wrote:I also am scum reading alchemist.

Anyone else scum reading alchemist?
No, not really.
I mean, I am lurking to the maximum degree. Can't deny the truth
Shiro, please give me your synopsis on what has happened this day phase so far.
GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10688009
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:42 am

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VOTE: Chenn sorry PPG I'm not feeling the Volxen lynch and Chenn is begging for it.
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:00 am

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I'm incredibly demotivated right now.

I'm following along, but I'm not grokking anything, or even really putting the effort in to understand. I don't even know why I'm posting this, just sorta feels like something you should all be aware of and maybe someone can help?
GTK a me, currently live, this may be your only chance!
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:11 am

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I definitely known what you mean. Usually when I get like that I have to either see something I passionately scumread or get into an intense debate.

That said Cerb is scum.
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:28 am

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In post 784, Alchemist21 wrote:I definitely known what you mean. Usually when I get like that I have to either see something I passionately scumread or get into an intense debate.

That said Cerb is scum.
<3

Is this an attempt to get me to intensely debate something?

Because unfortunately I don't think it would work since I feel like literally everyone who knows me should be scumreading me right now, given that I'm like...so far out of my EVERY GAME range, that I could see scumminess being assumed.
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:30 am

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We can all help VOTE: Cerb
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:32 am

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In post 785, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 784, Alchemist21 wrote:I definitely known what you mean. Usually when I get like that I have to either see something I passionately scumread or get into an intense debate.

That said Cerb is scum.
<3

Is this an attempt to get me to intensely debate something?

Because unfortunately I don't think it would work since I feel like literally everyone who knows me should be scumreading me right now, given that I'm like...so far out of my EVERY GAME range, that I could see scumminess being assumed.
It was.
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:58 am

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In post 742, Hydra TBD wrote: Shiro only has one recently completed game. Here are some early, non-random votes from their recent (town)game:

Spoiler:
Subject: Mini 2064 - Giffy-Q (Game Over!)
Shiro wrote:Actually

Vote:RC Enigma


His lines about the neighborhoods rub me the wrong way.
Subject: Mini 2064 - Giffy-Q (Game Over!)
Shiro wrote:OK Prince and chara are town, good to know.

I will join the lurker wagon. It has merit

Vote:Blackjack
Subject: Mini 2064 - Giffy-Q (Game Over!)
Shiro wrote:Why yes, yes I can prince

Vote;RCE


I still think the lurker has a good chance of being scum though.

I don't see the same confidence/certainty here, so it's jumping the gun to attribute this to playstyle.

- Hydra
In post 744, Hydra TBD wrote:
In post 740, Powerpuff Girls wrote:
In post 738, Hydra TBD wrote:I think alchemist can be read by how coherent/sensible his posts are and whether he's actively scummy or not and in this game he "lacks scum" to me
Check out his ISO in Starcraft 2. I think he was pretty coherent there, and not actively scummy - can you show me the distinction between his posts there versus in this game?

-Bubbles
Yeah I really don't care enough about this game to go read 150 pages of cold meta, "sensible" or "not sensible" requires understanding the gamestate and not just reading an iso, my reads are much better in games that I'm actually in or at least spectating, and I wouldn't be super interested in explaining specific things that I think are meta tells anyway because I also want to win games other than this one, so, basically, no.

I've played with scum alchemist and he was really scummy, his reads just didn't make sense, whereas in this game he's often posted what I was thinking which implies an uninformed perspective, etc.

- TBD
So one of the heads is pushing the scum!Shiro read with meta included, and the other head says Alch is town by meta but doesn't want to look at a really not so long ISO ('cause you weren't told to read the entire game, only Alch's ISO in that game). If this wasn't a hydra, the inconsistency would be lovely.

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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:31 am

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In post 780, Shiro wrote:I mean, I am lurking to the maximum degree. Can't deny the truth
You being aware of it, doesn't help.
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:31 am

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VOTE: Cerb
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:13 pm

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In post 718, u r a person 2 wrote:I also am scum reading alchemist.

Anyone else scum reading alchemist?
Why?
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:15 pm

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In post 782, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Chenn sorry PPG I'm not feeling the Volxen lynch and Chenn is begging for it.
In post 786, RCEnigma wrote:We can all help VOTE: Cerb
What was this vote on Chen?
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:17 pm

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VOTE: Shiro

\o/
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:19 pm

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VOTE: Shiro
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:23 pm

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Don’t kill Shiro day 1.

I’ve been busy moving past couple days, I’ll be here eventually, maybe I’ll do a Last Night Tomorrow, for those of you who have been here long enough to remember what that actually is.
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:25 pm

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VOTE: shiro
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:28 pm

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In post 795, Flavor Leaf wrote:Don’t kill Shiro day 1.

I’ve been busy moving past couple days, I’ll be here eventually, maybe I’ll do a Last Night Tomorrow, for those of you who have been here long enough to remember what that actually is.
Who should I be on then?
I don't think Shiro is a bad lynch.
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:29 pm

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FL, hydra, PPG, Cerb, Ico, A50, Vedith probably town.
Liger, RCE, U2 maybe town.
I don't care about lynching the rest today.
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:29 pm

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roar?
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