Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over

[TiphaineDeath]

I mean, I actively lack a read on elements. I just went and isoed him again cause you asked and I can't find anything he's done that makes me want to sort him usefully in to either bucket. My POE says he's town but if any of my current scumteam flip green everything is back on the table.

[eth0s]

I don't think I've played with Elements before but if this is his town game then I'm concerned about how I would play with him in mylo/lylo because I tend to tunnel players like that in such cases when I do not have a

strong

scumread alternative.

[Adorable]

#210 Elements says he doesn't think scum would throw so much wifom in the game and he was talking about Korina and he didn't think Korina's role was a fake claim.
#460 He votes Korina anyways.

I am also not liking how Element's has been asking questions.

VOTE: Elements

This is pretty much the reason why I am scum reading Elements. He said he doesn't think scum would throw so much wifom in the game and he didn't think Korina's role was a fake claim but I still don't understand why did he vote Korina anyways after he said this about Korina. On day 1 Elements was also asking questions which is what scum do often. I have played with Elements before and he was scum when I played with him and I know how Elements plays as scum. Scum Elements was asking questions and his posts were very calm and genuine.

[Elements]

I'm liking jjh, TD, mena, and eth0s.
jjh's for his tunnels, TD for the read/stream post, eth0s because their iso, and mena is different from what I remember from ruby.
Elbirn, chemist, adorable all meh.
Adorable is just metaing me from one game. Chemist there's not much to go on. Elbirn hasn't done anything that swings me either way.
Not a fan of EP, TL, mastina.
Happy with a lynch on any of them.

[mastina]

Also putting me as a nullread

Who said you were null?

You're above null.

it sounds like she just wants to coast by.

Oh I don't want to coast by, I just find it hard to see how I can do anything but coast by when my reads are universally basically the group consensus reads but as Adorable can attest I had said reads before I knew they were the group consensus reads, so.

That's a pretty decent place in the EP wagon for scum to jump in and she did it anyway when she has 2 people she finds scummier than EP. One of them being you (Elbirn) who actually appears to have a decent chance at being lynched.

The Espresso wagon is larger and is still a scumread. Why wouldn't I vote a scumread who has a larger wagon? Would you prefer me vanity vote a scumread? It's being pragmatic.

Where did your TL scumread go

It didn't go anywhere, but it happens to be a scumread Adorable disagrees with--my scumreads on the three Es, however, are reads Adorable is more or less all onboard with, so.

It's you looking at three names and saying "one or all of these are scum", an exercise which can be performed with any three names drawn from a hat and have about the same meaning.

Wrong.
It's saying that I, very specifically, believe that the group of {Elbirn, Elements, Espresso} contains two scum, no more no less, with one scum (most likely TL) outside of the grouping.
This stance is a group consensus stance.
Some people think that there's only one scum in the three;
Some people think that all three are scum.
But MOST people think that two, and exactly two, players in that group of three are scum and I happen to be among them.

[mastina]

I'll do it tomorrow if I live.

Implies that she thinks there's a chance of a lynch happening before she returns, so her jumping on the most popular wagon of the day does not come across to me as "pressure" at all.

That was copy pasted from my PT and I said as much; it was typed immediately after the Korina lynch but prior to the end of night.

but yeah I concede that the intent to vote is way too standoffish and scum-motivated

if you want to vote out jjh I will be on your side.

ummm

Feels good to have called the Chemist slot town before it was even Chemist's.

Butyeah at this stage would vote any of {TL, Espresso, Elements}.
While Elbirn could still be scum I'm willing to buy jjh's defense there for now.

[mastina]

She wasn't prodded even though she didn't post for 76 hours. Emerald saying in 430 that prods would be sent "soon if needed" tells me that, for all we know, mastina and momo both could have been posting in PTs and not being prodded for that reason.

Um.
I explicitly was posting, yes.
I posted twice in my Adorable PT between my initial entrance into the game and my reemergence post-Korina-hammer.

This isn't some big secret; I already explicitly told you this?

I called her out for repeating what others have been saying and jumping onto a wagon with little/no reasoning when she has

2

people she claims to be scumreading harder.

There's three scum in the game, mate. Why, exactly, is voting your third-strongest scumread who has a wagon when your strongest scumread doesn't, a bad thing?

[mastina]

I am going to QUICKHAMMER TL if he gets to L-1 at any point in Day 2

Can we make this happen please?

I wanna make it happen.

[TemporalLich]

pretty sure eth0s is openwolfing

I'm not even L-1 let alone in the tent so... me roleclaiming is a bad idea and premature

[Chemist1422]

I don’t really like Adorable’s ISO that much but I’m considering clearing them for reading SoaS during N1

[eth0s]

I'll do it tomorrow if I live.

Implies that she thinks there's a chance of a lynch happening before she returns, so her jumping on the most popular wagon of the day does not come across to me as "pressure" at all.

That was copy pasted from my PT and I said as much; it was typed immediately after the Korina lynch but prior to the end of night.

I didn't notice it was stuff from day one you weren't able to post. I see that now

[Menalque]

I’m a lil drunk

I still think EP is prob scum. I don’t like how he’s sat back and let jjh lead the push on TL here. I don’t think TL couldn’t be scum btw, I just think he’s a very mislynch baity player, and I think there should be more caution approaching him because of that.

EP, on the other hand, is not a particularly mislynch baity player, but is definitely scummy enough to lynch.

I also think that an EP red flip ramps up scum equity for jjh pretty significantly because he’s diverted the game to be about Stl rather than about EP and taken a lot of the pressure away there.

[eth0s]

She wasn't prodded even though she didn't post for 76 hours. Emerald saying in 430 that prods would be sent "soon if needed" tells me that, for all we know, mastina and momo both could have been posting in PTs and not being prodded for that reason.

Um.
I explicitly was posting, yes.
I posted twice in my Adorable PT between my initial entrance into the game and my reemergence post-Korina-hammer.

This isn't some big secret; I already explicitly told you this?

Maybe I haven't conveyed this thought clearly then but why, if this is true, do you consider momo being conftown when he could have not been prodded due to PT activity? Clearly there could have been some kind of mixture of that and then the mod IRL stuff that appears to have effected him later in Day one so I'm just saying giving momo/chemist a free pass seems unwise at this point. Personally I am expecting some content from that slot soon before I stop being so passive aggressive about it.

[Menalque]

Mastina why do you think jjh is town? I know you said something about this being his towngame yesterda, what has he done today that is still town?

[mastina]

She wasn't prodded even though she didn't post for 76 hours. Emerald saying in 430 that prods would be sent "soon if needed" tells me that, for all we know, mastina and momo both could have been posting in PTs and not being prodded for that reason.

Um.
I explicitly was posting, yes.
I posted twice in my Adorable PT between my initial entrance into the game and my reemergence post-Korina-hammer.

This isn't some big secret; I already explicitly told you this?

Maybe I haven't conveyed this thought clearly then but why, if this is true, do you consider momo being conftown when he could have not been prodded due to PT activity? Clearly there could have been some kind of mixture of that and then the mod IRL stuff that appears to have effected him later in Day one so I'm just saying giving momo/chemist a free pass seems unwise at this point. Personally I am expecting some content from that slot soon before I stop being so passive aggressive about it.

Because I have knowledge about momo which you lack.

I was in the game where momo declared that he was leaving the site, outright abandoning his game midway through (well, sort of; he said he'd leave it to his backup mod).

That happened at least a full week before role PMS were sent this game, so I know for a fact that momo never even received his role pm, something that his name being unbolded when every other players' names were bolded confirms.

Ergo, I know that he didn't post in any pts because he left the site before he could have possibly posted in a pt.

[mastina]

Mastina why do you think jjh is town? I know you said something about this being his towngame yesterda, what has he done today that is still town?

Everything?

The question isn't what has he done which is town; the question is what he's done which HASN'T been town.

[Menalque]

Mastina why do you think jjh is town? I know you said something about this being his towngame yesterda, what has he done today that is still town?

Everything?

The question isn't what has he done which is town; the question is what he's done which HASN'T been town.

Okay, let’s go with “diverting the pressure on EP away onto a slot that could be scum but is also very much mislynch bait meaning town is going to make a big fuss over it or if scum think they can get away with it possibly just be rapid lynched”

Why is that towny?

[Menalque]

Like if you think EP has good scum equity then the associationals are bad for jjh

[Elbirn]

I'm not having a good day and I'm not reading 4-5 pages of text walls

[Chemist1422]

I'm not having a good day and I'm not reading 4-5 pages of text walls

This is a complete mood

Not the one I'm in rn but

[Elbirn]

I'm not having a good day and I'm not reading 4-5 pages of text walls

This is a complete mood

Not the one I'm in rn but

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[Chemist1422]

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[eth0s]

can I have it

[jjh927]

Wish for more wishes

[Chemist1422]

can I have it

idk jjh's avatar is really asking for it