Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)
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Well, as I mentioned earlier with Vorkuta, there are people who do it, but they are in the extreme minority. It takes a lot of faith that people won't just lynch you for being dumb.In post 545, nomnomnom wrote:lol this is so weird to read this while being conscious of me having a history of being extremely weak plays on purposes to be townreadShame on a martyr claiming friends
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Maybe we're using the word manipulative differentlyIn post 502, Something_Smart wrote:I don't think it's manipulative? Like he's not trying to trick Aaron into weakening his Luca townread.He's straight up trying to break down the read.It's not as though Aaron might change his read without realizing why he had changed it or that rb was trying to get him to change it.
I dont like the way he's going about the boldedShowHiatus once more.
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Is this how you normally approach day1?In post 509, Sirfetchd wrote:I really hate realists but you are refs top scum read and skitter is second. But that doesn't mean I need to force aLynch on either of you today because 1. I could be wrong,and 2. There's another scum out there even if I'm right and I only have two reads I believe in, in any capacity.
Like when do you decide it's time to start pushing your scumreads, exactly?ShowHiatus once more.
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I'm not sure i get the kerset scumreads
I'm not sure why what he's doing is scum-indicative and not (new ?) playstyle indicative
Kerset i think i asked this but i'm not sure if you answered: how much mafia experience do you have?ShowHiatus once more.
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What about it don't you like?In post 552, skitter30 wrote:I dont like the way he's going about the boldedShame on a martyr claiming friends
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A) i initially skimmed your back and forth with kerset (which i subsequently reread). When i skimmed, and when i reread, i largely didnt, and dont, get why kerset is being pushed. I dont think he's been particularly scummy.In post 515, rb wrote:
can you please outline how you can simultaneously insist that you have not paid much attention to our interaction, but also be so resistant to any idea from other slots that have apparently paid attention to it: that kerset is not scum and yet i am likely to be?In post 420, skitter30 wrote:i'll reread it later
i think rb is being manipulative / buddying-y tho and would prefer that for now since i really don't have thoughts on kerset
nomnom brings up similar points to what i did?
are they also scummy?
line of thinking does not compute
B) the part that i'm objecting to is your interaction with aaron.
C) i'm feeling dubious of nom now, yesShowHiatus once more.
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Because i dont know why town tries to undermine/break down a townreadIn post 555, Something_Smart wrote:
What about it don't you like?In post 552, skitter30 wrote:I dont like the way he's going about the boldedShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
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I mean ... it worked for me last time soIn post 557, nomnomnom wrote:Ah classic skitter doubting me all game long just because of that one normal that traumatized her lolShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
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I mean should i not be wary rn or ...
Do you think i should be townreading you?ShowHiatus once more.
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
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...if they think the reasoning for it isn't sound?In post 558, skitter30 wrote:Because i dont know why town tries to undermine/break down a townreadShame on a martyr claiming friends
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I think there were more factors that didn't service me that game such as the slot I replaced in that was honestly scummy so I think my usual scum tactics were flawed there. Interestingly enough, as an aside, the only two scumgames I have lot were two games where I replaced a scum. That's an interesting observation I made that speaks volume about the people I replace being really scummy before I come in and given that some people are seriously scared of my scumgame it doesn't help at all that I'm the one replacing these scummy slots.In post 559, skitter30 wrote:
I mean ... it worked for me last time soIn post 557, nomnomnom wrote:Ah classic skitter doubting me all game long just because of that one normal that traumatized her lol
I don't know? The fact that you're having doubts about me perhaps is a good thing given that you easily read me as town in Cats. I've also invoked this argument in Electronic Mafia with Tchill, that it's probably a good indication that I'm town if people are scumreading me early on lolIn post 560, skitter30 wrote:I mean should i not be wary rn or ...
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Noms you seem to have some experience with skitter. She's made some pretty weak points at this juncture. Is that normal; is it indicative of her alignment?Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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Maybe this is the part i missed while skimming because i have like no recollection of this being the caseIn post 517, rb wrote:if you read my posts you'll see that i think luca is also a scumread of mine
That interaction makes more sense then, i guess
I looked at your iso and i found these:In post 336, rb wrote:I want luca to be scum because then this game would be ez solve
do something scummy imoIs the latter quote supposed to imply that you're scumreading him?
I think i actually asked about this but didnt get an answer - why is mot understanding his reads scum indicaticeShowHiatus once more.
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'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
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I still don't understand, you didn't help me.In post 444, skitter30 wrote:
you're creating a fairly thin distinction that is all but irrelevant given what nom and rb are actually saying about youIn post 439, Kerset wrote:So which is the case? Do I only talk about state of town and mech or maybe i throw a lot of accusations at people? That is contradiction for me.
@nom this is the scummiest thing i've seen kerset do thus far ^
@rb do you agree with
?In post 424, nomnomnom wrote: Picture this: someone's accusations or slight shades against people, and what they vote, can be seen as a ratio. I see it as a vote/shade ratio, where you can see what someone says in regards to people that could be seen as shading or outright accusation, and where they vote. In Kerset's case, their isois full to the brim with shading and accusations, but the only vote that they've made is against rb.- Kerset
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Why didn't you say this about Sirfetch?In post 477, AaronFrost wrote:
Bad post. Trying to distract from the Kerset/rb discussions.In post 449, Xayah wrote:Don't know how I feel about the topic just being behind the Kerset and rb slot. Kerset has really bad arguments but the approach they bring to the game feels towny. I think we should still go for Aaron here. Rb is just gonna be...well rb- Kerset
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This is my 3rd gameIn post 489, skitter30 wrote:
this is a fascinating theory but i'm not sure, overall, how much stock i actually put into it in practiceIn post 446, nomnomnom wrote:b) I don't think so. I'm a much more emotional player. I "feel" rather than analyze. These are observations with the games I've went through rather than something I applied over and over, but I do feel it holds water.
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- i think you're overestimating his towngameIn post 518, rb wrote:i think your play lacks direction, despite knowing that you're usually a capable and matter of fact player as town who states what they think and pushes in the direction they believe will hit scum.
it's possible that i'm overestimating your townplay, or that you just aren't really pinging heavily on a scumread yet and so aren't the town player i'm used to. nothing you've said really pings me as you being either alignment, which is why i said earlier "i hope Luca's scum because then this game would make a lot more sense"
- this seems in line with his towngame that i've seen before
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Rb what is your current read on kerser exactlyShowHiatus once more.
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already explained in 517In post 558, skitter30 wrote:
Because i dont know why town tries to undermine/break down a townreadIn post 555, Something_Smart wrote:
What about it don't you like?In post 552, skitter30 wrote:I dont like the way he's going about the bolded- skitter30
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Ya i'm not sure kerset's being anything more than 'awkward new'ShowHiatus once more.
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