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[Zote the Mighty]

VOTE: Saladman I'm interested in pushing this. Ultimate Plank is another wagon I could get on board with as well.

[profii]

Why would i bother regurgitating reasons?

Because it’s easy for scum to sheep wrong town and be like yep I just agreed with that dude he sounded clever

I don’t like that post, at all.

VOTE: ultimateplank

so now I'm town

if we are getting into pre flip stuff that’s the logic

[Montosh]

VC 1.6

Wake88 (3):

Saudade, Vorkuta, Saladman27

Looker (3):

UltimatePlank, Wake88, alimdia

Saladman27 (2):

Elbirn, Zote the Mighty

UltimatePlank (1):

profii

Elbirn (1):

Elements

Not voting (1):

Looker

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-11-18 03:00:00)

[Looker]

Im giving you plenty of space and opportunity to make reads.
However Im not letting you read me as easily as you'd like.

I'm not understanding the intent of the concealment.

I don't understand if I'm supposed to take these as jokes or serious claims. I feel that this is intentional. I feel you blast so much bullshit and fake news that you intentionally obfuscate the thread so that people can't get solid reads.

Wait so....

You're ignoring all the other people saying 'Papa Mason' and just straight claiming Mason with no partner but you think that I 'blast so much bullshit and fake news that you intentionally obfuscate the thread so that people can't get solid reads.'

Are you sure you're not only attacking me because.... I'm voting for you?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... d_You_Suck

• You're deflecting; I'm targeting the concept. Saying "They did it, too!" doesn't make it any better. My sentiment still stands.
  
• I'm familiar with OMGUS; it typically involves a vote. I'm also familiar with attacks - this is not one.

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VOTE: Elements

[Saladman27]

VOTE: Plank

[profii]

Lack of protest of the wake wagon falling down is noted. Any thoughts from anyone?

[Vorkuta]

Can someone TL;DR key points the wagon on looker?
I've caught up but I still don't get it

[UltimatePlank]

Why would i bother regurgitating reasons?

Because it’s easy for scum to sheep wrong town and be like yep I just agreed with that dude he sounded clever

I don’t like that post, at all.

VOTE: ultimateplank

So instead I should use other people's reasoning to place my own vote?

[UltimatePlank]

Can someone TL;DR key points the wagon on looker?
I've caught up but I still don't get it

You have a reason for not wanting Looker to be pressured?

[UltimatePlank]

Why would i bother regurgitating reasons?

Because it’s easy for scum to sheep wrong town and be like yep I just agreed with that dude he sounded clever

I don’t like that post, at all.

VOTE: ultimateplank

So instead I should use other people's reasoning to place my own vote?

I'm having a hard time understanding anything you say profii.

Saladman literally asked me why I didn't "regurgitate someone else's reads" - the thing you just described as bad is the thing Saladman said I should do. I asked him why I would do...exactly the thing that you just claimed is bad?

You are aware that Saladman is the one advocating for meaningless +1 posts, not me here. You should be voting him if you think that's such a scummy thing to do.

My reason for pressuring Looker is that he has basically no content. I'd forgotten all about that slot until I saw others vote him, and then I realised that was actually a good place for a wagon right now.

In any case I'm very comfortable seeing how poorly profii and Vork have responded to Looker suddenly getting a few votes. I think we should keep the pressure on Looker, or one of those two

[profii]

My reason for pressuring Looker is that he has basically no content. I'd forgotten all about that slot until I saw others vote him, and then I realised that was actually a good place for a wagon right now.

No this is the point

You are just voting because you saw other people do it - you aren’t coming in with a new perspective like “see how he said X which is scummy so vote”

You’re just sheeping a lurking vote which is why I vote you

To be fair I assume that’s all the looker votes are about but I’m going to take another look

[profii]

I’ve no inclination to vote looker at this point. I can see him trying to sort Saudade and he has posted a lot so maybe that agenda has taken over his attention for now

Obviously that stance is right now and we can’t cling onto that forever so I look forward to more

[Elbirn]

I have a really bad headache I'll play later

[Wake1]

I’ve no inclination to vote looker at this point. I can see him trying to sort Saudade and he has posted a lot so maybe that agenda has taken over his attention for now

Obviously that stance is right now and we can’t cling onto that forever so I look forward to more

If Looker turns up Scum I'd say look at profii for refusing to vote him.

[alimdia]

I don't understand if I'm supposed to take these as jokes or serious claims. I feel that this is intentional. I feel you blast so much bullshit and fake news that you intentionally obfuscate the thread so that people can't get solid reads.

Wait so....

You're ignoring all the other people saying 'Papa Mason' and just straight claiming Mason with no partner but you think that I 'blast so much bullshit and fake news that you intentionally obfuscate the thread so that people can't get solid reads.'

Are you sure you're not only attacking me because.... I'm voting for you?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... d_You_Suck

• You're deflecting; I'm targeting the concept. Saying "They did it, too!" doesn't make it any better. My sentiment still stands.
  
• I'm familiar with OMGUS; it typically involves a vote. I'm also familiar with attacks - this is not one.

Um no, maybe others can weigh in on this, but OMGUS

does not

have to involve a vote!

You specifically quoted and called me out on doing it and tried to paint me as intentionally doing it (I was) to blast bullshit and fake news to obfuscate the thread (????), when I was clearly doing it as a joke as a reply to saudade's claims and also Vorkuta's.

[alimdia]

I have a really bad headache I'll play later

Hope it goes away soon!

Finally, the wake wagon filled up really fast with a very small amount of resistance, and fell away as fast.
Whereas this looker wagon has some real resistance to it. People are either not commenting on it or parking their votes on people with just 1 vote. We need to pressure this slot more.

Join me on this wagon!

[Zote the Mighty]

Can someone TL;DR key points the wagon on looker?
I've caught up but I still don't get it

You have a reason for not wanting Looker to be pressured?

You have a reason to pressure him, cur? I don't really see the case against Looker either.

[Zote the Mighty]

The only thing in Looker's ISO I dislike right now is his vote on Elements.

[alimdia]

Lack of protest of the wake wagon falling down is noted. Any thoughts from anyone?

Are you talking about the 3 people still on wake or other people?

[Wake1]

Finally, the wake wagon filled up really fast with a very small amount of resistance, and fell away as fast.
Whereas this looker wagon has some real resistance to it.

That's basically what I'm feeling at the moment, for what it's worth.

I really, REALLY hate Day 1 because I've got nothing tangible to work with.

I've got both profii and Zote getting fussy over putting pressure on Looker, and I'm not so sure how to read that so early in the game.

[alimdia]

That's basically what I'm feeling at the moment, for what it's worth.

I really, REALLY hate Day 1 because I've got nothing tangible to work with.

I've got both profii and Zote getting fussy over putting pressure on Looker, and I'm not so sure how to read that so early in the game.

Go ahead and read Zote's ISO. Theres a shitload of posts, but he's probably said the same amount of non-fluff as you.

VOTE: Saladman I'm interested in pushing this. Ultimate Plank is another wagon I could get on board with as well.

literally only things Zote has talked about Salad so far:

I've seen town!salad be really inconsistent that way as well.

Oh please don't tell me saladman is mislynch bait I hate when I'm not allowed to push on people doing bad things because they always do bad things HaHa lol so randumb

From the rumblings I've heard deep in the depths of Hallownest, where I just slayed a great 30 foot long beast, Salad is known for being what one would call 'lynchbaity.'

In short, I can't stand Day 1. Least favorite part of the game. We have literally nothing to work with.

I don't mind hammering at L-1, but I will relax on it being a quickhammer, because we'd need a claim.

If something interesting happens during Day 1 then I'll pick at it, but I'm not interested in being paranoid-psycho on everything Day 1 like others can and do. It's a waste of my time. As bodies hit the floor I can actually start parsing out who is who.

Boycotting Day 1 entirely isn't the way to go about it though cur. There's plenty of information to be gained from wagons such as who supported it, who was against it, who hopped on etc. In particular I did not care for Saladman's hop on, especially with his intent to put you at L-1. It felt overly cautious .

Basically only case is 'overly cautious L1'ing wake'

Same with him wanting to wagon UltimatePlank, the only times he mentions ultimate are 'why do you townread alimdia' and 'why you pressure Looker'

LOL!

[profii]

Lack of protest of the wake wagon falling down is noted. Any thoughts from anyone?

Are you talking about the 3 people still on wake or other people?

Anyone is free to comment on anything

[profii]

Right now I think Saudade is town. I don't much care for his minimalistic posting style, but he seems to want to progress the game along and get us away from the pointless discussion that has clogged the past few pages.

I don't see this. Can you point me to a post where he was progressing the game as opposed to spamming the thread? I'm trying to determine whether my distrust of him is based on alignment or personality.

I’m not voting looker mostly based on this post

He seems to be genuinely trying to work Saudade out

If you are trying to work something out, you don’t know, ergo you are town

It’s obviously an early read on a quiet slot so it can change but for now...

[Saladman27]

@Mod, V/LA until Thursday, might extend due to wildfire conditions.

[Montosh]

@Mod, V/LA until Thursday, might extend due to wildfire conditions.

Noted. Be careful out there!