In post 2574, ofrhz wrote:Sup jingle, are there reasons why I should be townreading you aside from Menalque claiming something dumb
Reundo claiming vt, mena dancing around me because he was going to flip scum in another game, my play, the fact that I’m firmly in the PoE and thus get lynched before endgame anyway, and the fact that instead of trying to find ways to survive I’ve been looking for people who can be removed from the lynch pool literally all day.
It really doesn’t matter though, because my scumgame is either strong enough or perceived to be strong enough that I’m in the PoE here regardless.
In post 2394, Kerset wrote:VT claims came after all PR claims and after alisae validated VT existence (locking them out of options to claim without overlapping).
That's not true btw, I claimed before Jingle/Klick/Bitmap. Jingle also claimed before Klick and Bitmap.
I would like to hear from ofrhz why she vigged Alisae in the first place? Ali did not seem like a suspicious slot after e pushed for the Renudo lynch so hard and looking through your iso you didn't seem to think Alisae was very scummy, so its a question that's been bothering me.
I thought about e’s push on reundo but two things made me think e was scum in spite of that:
- e jumped off reundo for the bitmap wagon
- and voted Reundo because e thought reundo was going to flip town which didn’t really make sense to me
The most important factor was probably because I felt strongly about the bitmap slot being town after the d2 flip and nsg was scumreading e for like the same reasons that had me put alisae low on my tier list to begin with.
In post 2436, hitogoroshi wrote:What did you think about jjh/mastinas reads? I mean, whatever degree the flip made you feel better about Bitmap-town, surely you felt even more better about mastina town from D2, right?
You gotta pick who you sheep man
Me picking to sheep NSG over the other two isn’t a dig at jjh or mastina’s read accuracy - I think nsg’s reads are better than anyone else’s on site
and after all, I’m town so someone else being likely town isn’t a reason for me to value their reads more than my own unless I know they have a history of being noticeably better than average
I think mastina’s reads can be good, but her metrics for calibrating reads are certainly different from mine. I haven’t played with jjh town before
In post 2436, hitogoroshi wrote:This just isn't true at all. I started Bitmap, jjh/Alisae/mastina came over because of me, and then Alisae re-defected back to reundo because menal argued eir back on it. Alisae was pretty strongly town from that interaction and would have been a real stretch as a mislynch, especially with mastina/myself still alive.
Though you raise a good point w/r/t my rolecop theory that I'm probably a more sensible kill for scum-masquerading-as-vig than Alisae if I got copped N1. So I should probably lower that prior downward.
I don’t really think alisae jumping back there makes e town. We knew scum bussed by end of d2
If it makes you feel better, I did think about vigging you for a hot second because of that last minute diversion wagon away from Reundo
But you had some interactions with mena that I didnt think were svs. and again, scum were bussing
I slept all night \(^▽^)/ didn't even think about mafia for two seconds it was glorious
The other scum were one shot strongman and two-shot roleblocker so one-shot ascetic isn't impossible. It just feels so shitty compared to townroles.
A forced n2 immunity wouldn't be that bad if it was related to the n2 vig though so if ofr isn't scum it does add credence to kerset scum
The answer to kerset's question about my unsureness as to who we'd lynch tomorrow is that im not stuck on order and jingle was making me want to lynch him harder at the moment. I haven't really decided who exactly would be better to lynch in what order, just that the evidence my team's looked at says it should be ofr -> kerset -> jingle
Maybe i'd have less urges to punch him if he wouldn't vote me and then list all the reasons he realizes I'm town and mashes his brain into mush to ignore it though
VOTE: ofrhz
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Right. I was definitely trying to take potential lynches out of the PoE pool that was already tight to make myself look town.
Klick is the one conftown who was reading me as town the strongest. Killing her makes the game more difficult when it’s already an uphill battle. Killing anyone else out of the town pool (like say chem) makes way more sense for scum me.