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[bugspray]

Stirner has Beetlejuiced a bit (check for time gaps in the iso) and dances on the fence wearing flip flops

[Aloratom]

With regard to your critique of volxen's post, I'd say that I understand your point, but I also see from volxen's POV it's difficult to comment on everyone when you're subbing in. This is the second time I've repped in here, and both times it's been a chore going back and reviewing everything. You're probably running into the same thing. You've got to read everything three times and then three more times later on to make sure you got the context right the first time. I'm not as confident as you are in saying that volxen and bugspray are of the same alignment. Why do you think this?

I agree with you that TSE made a terrible play by claiming mason (and JV made it worse for both of them by tying them together) but I'm leaning more scum on TSE than town. TSE is drawing too much attention to himself and playing a lot of defense.

@TSE: who are your scum reads right now?

[Aloratom]

Its ok, was just weird that u commented on my slot and skipped over what I said.

With regard to your critique of volxen's post, I'd say that I understand your point, but I also see from volxen's POV it's difficult to comment on everyone when you're subbing in. This is the second time I've repped in here, and both times it's been a chore going back and reviewing everything. You're probably running into the same thing. You've got to read everything three times and then three more times later on to make sure you got the context right the first time. I'm not as confident as you are in saying that volxen and bugspray are of the same alignment. Why do you think this?

I agree with you that TSE made a terrible play by claiming mason (and JV made it worse for both of them by tying them together) but I'm leaning more scum on TSE than town. TSE is drawing too much attention to himself and playing a lot of defense.

@TSE: who are your scum reads right now?

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.12

Rule 110 with a random start

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Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

JacksonVirgo

(2): GeorgeBailey, Luca Blight

bugspray

(2): TrueSoulEnergy, JacksonVirgo

TrueSoulEnergy

(2): chazary, bugspray

GeorgeBailey

(1): volxen

Not Voting

(2): DkKoba, Aloratom

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-02-07 18:00:00).

Mod notes:

Aloratom replaced Chuck Shurley, DkKoba replaced TheLordOfKittens[/area]

[GeorgeBailey]

imma be a bit weird here but this entrance post after subbing in gives me weird vibes, like I see defusal here + with the lack of interaction with bare mentions of bugspray, and bugspray's similar avoidance of interacting with you + your slot having voted bugspray right away(not rly that big but small coincidences add up), I am semi confident about this, at the very least I think u 2 are the same alignment

So you're scumreading them because of their lack of interaction with each other? You gave a point for volxen, what's your point for scumreading bug?

[bugspray]

Koba's slot has been consistently wolfy.

[bugspray]

Lamist btw

[GeorgeBailey]

Overall, TSE and JV give me equal slight scum vibes, and while I'd rather lynch actual scum, I don't mind a mislynch to put it to rest.

Yikes, why are you fine with a mislynch on someone you don't think will flip red? I mean, JV is my top scumpick, and you said you'd be willing to vote for them. But you seem really passive about it. Like you know there's a good chance they'll flip green.

This is a strange post. First, the part about always following Poe's law. Context is key. Adhering to strict rules can get you in trouble.

Context is key, but it's lost on Newbies in this type of setup. Following poe's law let's Newbies know that it's a joke.

After reading it, I'm really not sure where GB stands with regard to TSE and Jackson Virgo

TSE is SL, and JV is SR.

[GeorgeBailey]

Koba's slot has been consistently wolfy.

Just an odd scumteam pick.

@Koba, what do you think of Luca's interactions with Bugspray?

[GeorgeBailey]

Stirner has Beetlejuiced a bit (check for time gaps in the iso) and dances on the fence wearing flip flops

I wear Crocs with wicked sick flames on the side actually.

[GeorgeBailey]

@Bug what do you think of JV? Why do you think TSE is a better pick?

[Aloratom]

Koba's slot has been consistently wolfy.

How do you get that from 2 posts from Kittens and 5 posts from DkKoba?

[GeorgeBailey]

i agree with luca on this, that third question seems a bit suspicious

@Alora This post seems kinda weird and wolfy. Kittens is agreeing to Luca's comment but providing no further reasoning.

[Aloratom]

Overall, TSE and JV give me equal slight scum vibes, and while I'd rather lynch actual scum, I don't mind a mislynch to put it to rest.

Yikes, why are you fine with a mislynch on someone you don't think will flip red? I mean, JV is my top scumpick, and you said you'd be willing to vote for them. But you seem really passive about it. Like you know there's a good chance they'll flip green.

This is a strange post. First, the part about always following Poe's law. Context is key. Adhering to strict rules can get you in trouble.

Context is key, but it's lost on Newbies in this type of setup. Following poe's law let's Newbies know that it's a joke.

After reading it, I'm really not sure where GB stands with regard to TSE and Jackson Virgo

TSE is SL, and JV is SR.

I'm not okay with mislynching someone, but I think it will be a worthwhile exercise. The closest that I can see to a consensus pool to lynch from at this moment is TSE, JV and you. You're not on my scum list, but I do have a scum lean on JV. We lynch JV, it solves that mystery, and we move into D2 maybe with a more focused direction. In fact, I could swap JV with TSE in this scenario and be fine with it. I think more needs to be heard from the recent subs, ie volxen and DkKoba, but that's where I'm at right now.

[Aloratom]

i agree with luca on this, that third question seems a bit suspicious

@Alora This post seems kinda weird and wolfy. Kittens is agreeing to Luca's comment but providing no further reasoning.

Maybe. I don't see it, I guess. Regardless, that's one post, not "consistently wolfy."

[bugspray]

To me gb looks like scum posturing to get a compromise mislynch to help easily abdicate responsibility and gain towncred.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ll_as_scum
I feel like a lot of his moves are trying to follow this guide

[bugspray]

@Bug what do you think of JV? Why do you think TSE is a better pick?

JV hasn't been that scummy imo. He's felt more like village idiot than scum or town and I guess I nulltown read him

[bugspray]

I haven't shaded jv at all just asking that question feels really sus

[GeorgeBailey]

compromise mislynch

Who else was Scumreading JV before me? I'm not trying to compromise with people's top scumreads. If I was, i'd be pushing TSE.

[bugspray]

I'm saying that scum!gb loves to sr jv the hardest and then end up lynching tse when the deadline starts to loom

[Aloratom]

I continue to dislike George's play. He spent the entire game posturing over TSE, and is currently coasting on the Chaz wagon despite not having much of a stance on him. George is being really cautious and it seems like he's waiting to see what happen before he commits himself.

The way he's acting around the TSE wagon leads me to believe they are either partners and he's excusing himself from TSE's wagon while avoiding openly defending him, or he's afraid of creating too much conflict with TSE.

Who’s your strongest Town read?
Bugs and Chaz I’m assuming?

I'm TR'ing Chuck, Bugs and Chaz right now.

Why the town reads here?

And where are you with volxen and DkKoba?

[GeorgeBailey]

scum!GB would tell people to read Atlas Shrugged

[bugspray]

read Atlas Shrugged

spook conformed

[Luca Blight]

I continue to dislike George's play. He spent the entire game posturing over TSE, and is currently coasting on the Chaz wagon despite not having much of a stance on him. George is being really cautious and it seems like he's waiting to see what happen before he commits himself.

The way he's acting around the TSE wagon leads me to believe they are either partners and he's excusing himself from TSE's wagon while avoiding openly defending him, or he's afraid of creating too much conflict with TSE.

Who’s your strongest Town read?
Bugs and Chaz I’m assuming?

I'm TR'ing Chuck, Bugs and Chaz right now.

Why the town reads here?

And where are you with volxen and DkKoba?

I TR Chuck for his line of questioning towards Chaz, and for 146 which was a decent point.

I liked Bugs' play from around the second page mark, but they have been underwhelming of late so it's no longer a strong read.

Chaz felt Town in their earlier interactions with TSE. I'm not really getting any bad vibes from them.

Right now none of them are really strong TR's, but slight TL's.

I have to review Volxen and Koba.

[Luca Blight]

I skimmed the game up until this point, and I have 2 points I want to make:
a) TSE comes off as town who made a really shit play
b) While this is a really hot take as an entrance on d1, volxen and bugspray is my top scumteam read right now

I'm skeptical of how anyone can TR TSE's play on pages 11/12.

Can you go into more detail on this read?