Micro 922: Strawberry Mafia (Game over!)

[Kanna]

o h n o

[Kanna]

@luca; ok, I’ll look at that later

[Kanna]

I think I’m coming around to Luca. Also the compath stuff by Ame/Luca is pretty convincing. Still going to look back before deciding

[Kanna]

I feel like Compath/Ico are really similar in their tone is townie and they’ve both had a few chains I thought was really townie but I’m not sure anymore

[Kanna]

Still not finished and have to go to class; will be back later

[Ame]

@Ame, what was it you wanted me to clarify exactly? Why I asked you about the RQS questions?

Yes, I had stated a bit before you asked me that I would explain everything once I received the answers I needed, so I'm wondering why you asked me about them then?

[Ame]

You seem to always say my pushes lack force, maybe that’s just my play style? I don’t normally push really hard unless I’m convinced someone is scum.

Oh wow I guess this is true.

Still there's something different I think. You were obvtown to me almost immediately mini normal 2115. I'm going to think about it some to see if I can sort out the difference.

[Ame]

The friendly thing isn't scum-indicative; I'm just trying to have a more laid-back approach in general,

When did you make the decision to have this approach and what provoked it?

[Luca Blight]

That's not really how I operate. There's no specific cause or decision, I just feel like playing a certain way sometimes, depending on certain things such as my mood, amount of free time etc. Maybe I could point to the Newbie 1982 game where I had a number of heated arguments, but there wasn't an actual thought of 'because of this I will change my play'.

[Ame]

But you said that you were

trying

to have a more laid-back approach, which indicates intent?

[Luca Blight]

You seem to always say my pushes lack force, maybe that’s just my play style? I don’t normally push really hard unless I’m convinced someone is scum.

Oh wow I guess this is true.

Still there's something different I think. You were obvtown to me almost immediately mini normal 2115. I'm going to think about it some to see if I can sort out the difference.

I don't remember being obvtown to you almost immediately that game, I remember you being highly suspicious of me for most of D1 before deciding Frost was scummier.

[Compath]

@mod Busy with real life lately, V/LA until further notice. Sorry if this causes any issues.

[Luca Blight]

But you said that you were

trying

to have a more laid-back approach, which indicates intent?

I knew you were going to say that.

Yes, trying was probably the wrong wording, although not entirely wrong. I feel like changing, therefore it's like trying to change but without 100% conscious awareness of it.

[Compath]

I would prefer not to lynch Ico today.

[Compath]

I've vaguely skimmed through a bit, I'll probably be around for a little longer so if you have any questions to ask me feel free.

[clidd]

Compath, if you were scum in this game, who wouldn't you kill on the first night ?

[Ame]

But you said that you were

trying

to have a more laid-back approach, which indicates intent?

I knew you were going to say that.

Yes, trying was probably the wrong wording, although not entirely wrong. I feel like changing, therefore it's like trying to change but without 100% conscious awareness of it.

Ok that makes sense.

You seem to always say my pushes lack force, maybe that’s just my play style? I don’t normally push really hard unless I’m convinced someone is scum.

Oh wow I guess this is true.

Still there's something different I think. You were obvtown to me almost immediately mini normal 2115. I'm going to think about it some to see if I can sort out the difference.

I don't remember being obvtown to you almost immediately that game, I remember you being highly suspicious of me for most of D1 before deciding Frost was scummier.

I didn't express it, but you were obvtown to me from the start and I was only questioning you to verify my read/sort the discrepancy in your voting.

And during that questioning, you came off as combative which is where I think I obtained the impression of your style. But since then your style has been more 'nice,' which is why I've felt differently.

@Luca, now that you have my answers, why is it that you wanted my response? Your redirecting to me here makes me feel like you felt there was actually something to get out of the questions/my response. Or maybe I'm misreading the tone and it's not actually antagonistic?

Could you address this? (Twas hidden in my my ame-miami spoiler)

I wanted nothing in particular, I just wanted to see your answers and what you'd make of everything.

So to clarify, which of these is the correct interpretation/tone of the line 'Your turn, Ame'

a) "I've answered your questions, now let's see what you make out of them"
b) "I've answered your questions, now you answer them yourself"
c) "Now I'd like to see your answers out of curiosity"

[Ame]

I would prefer not to lynch Ico today.

How confident are you that they are town?

[Luca Blight]

I’d say the tone was most similar to b, the meaning was most similar to c.

[Compath]

I would prefer not to lynch Ico today.

How confident are you that they are town?

Strong TL.

[Compath]

Compath, if you were scum in this game, who wouldn't you kill on the first night ?

If I were scum I'd avoid killing You/Slaxx/Ame

I'd probably kill in Luca/Hectic/Kanna
(Assuming you're all town)

Why did you ask this type of question?

[Ame]

@Compath: Why haven't you taken Clidd's meta into account regarding your read? I'm not saying he can't be scummy, buy the points you made against him are NAI Clidd stuff. This is the biggest issue with you currently.

[Ame]

but*

[Compath]

@Compath: Why haven't you taken Clidd's meta into account regarding your read?

I don't usually like to use meta unless it's meta from a game that I've played in. Plus, a player's playstyle can change drastically throughout games, especially newer ones such as Clidd.

[Ame]

@Compath: Why haven't you taken Clidd's meta into account regarding your read?

I don't usually like to use meta unless it's meta from a game that I've played in. Plus, a player's playstyle can change drastically throughout games, especially newer ones such as Clidd.

But using meta to falsify an assumption is completely different than using meta to scum/town read a player.

If you think player X is scummy for action Y, and someone shows you that player X does Y all the time, it no longer makes sense to scum read them for it.