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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:35 am

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In post 1195, Wake1 wrote:
Thus should have been mentioned earlier. Penguinpower is our backup moderator.
OK. That figures! :lol:

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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:36 am

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In post 1199, Hectic wrote:I am tempted to keep Titus around to see how she does VCA involving 50 players lol. However, there needs to be some kind of consensus on some other player if we're gonna get 26 votes on someone.

Titus, why tictac/Black Ranger?

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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:47 am

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Bad news: Titus is in a scum slot.
Good news: Titus is cool she can stay longer.
Bad news: Titus is cool and WILL stay longer.
Good news: Titus is a shorter name than TSE's so is easier to vote.
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:57 am

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So our objective is to kill the long names now?
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:59 am

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Makes sense if you have to type the exact whole name for your vote to count, tbh

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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:00 am

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In post 1202, Pink Ball wrote:Titus is a shorter name than TSE's so is easier to vote.
eyy. coolio.
VOTE: Titus

to be clear: loud-foo not gonna exist in 50p game cause it's annoying to mod and mechanically too uninteresting to bother.
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:48 am

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Ok yup tictac is scum. Willing to vote there too.
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:54 am

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In post 1173, Drixx wrote:Even if KM were town and actually thought I was scum ... it would be worthwhile to get that reasoning out there and engage me to reciprocate.
Not everyone thinks this way though, right? Plenty of people will, as town, ignore everything their scumread says and refuse to interact with them. (I have been on the receiving end of this many times.) Some people don't like getting into wall wars, and I don't blame them, because wall wars are stupid. (And honestly, if you DID want people to ignore your argument, getting into a wall war isn't a terrible way).

And actually, I see very few players intentionally try to make the game toxic as scum. I suspect you are thinking of a few high-profile scum players (kuribo, LLD, and RC come to mind), but that's a dirty tactic and liable to backfire if you're not absolutely amazing at spewing bullshit. While that could be what she is doing, it's far from the only possiblity.
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:59 am

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In post 1205, tictac wrote:Also, it's easy as pie to claim roleblocked tomorrow, so why not claim it as scum.
Imagine forcing a scum roleblocker to stay on Titus every night.

That kinda sounds amazing, don't you think?

Even better, we might be forcing a scum roleblocker to stay on Titus... who is also scum, and we can lynch her on like D5 or D6 or something. Sounds like a win-win to me.
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:59 am

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In post 1208, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1173, Drixx wrote:Even if KM were town and actually thought I was scum ... it would be worthwhile to get that reasoning out there and engage me to reciprocate.
Not everyone thinks this way though, right? Plenty of people will, as town, ignore everything their scumread says and refuse to interact with them. (I have been on the receiving end of this many times.) Some people don't like getting into wall wars, and I don't blame them, because wall wars are stupid. (And honestly, if you DID want people to ignore your argument, getting into a wall war isn't a terrible way).

And actually, I see very few players intentionally try to make the game toxic as scum. I suspect you are thinking of a few high-profile scum players (kuribo, LLD, and RC come to mind), but that's a dirty tactic and liable to backfire if you're not absolutely amazing at spewing bullshit. While that could be what she is doing, it's far from the only possiblity.
I don't buy it. KM clearly isn't ignoring everything I say. The internal logic of your post is dissonant.
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:04 am

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In post 1209, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1205, tictac wrote:Also, it's easy as pie to claim roleblocked tomorrow, so why not claim it as scum.
Imagine forcing a scum roleblocker to stay on Titus every night.

That kinda sounds amazing, don't you think?

Even better, we might be forcing a scum roleblocker to stay on Titus... who is also scum, and we can lynch her on like D5 or D6 or something. Sounds like a win-win to me.
see, scum have this esoteric ability, where they are sometimes able to say things that are not always 100% true.
They don't actually have to be roleblocked to say they have been.
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:05 am

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And then there's no harm done if we leave her for a few days, right?
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:08 am

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In post 1210, Drixx wrote:KM clearly isn't ignoring everything I say.
Maybe not, but it seems like she's ignoring your attempts to start an actual dialogue, right? That's the kind of thing that's happened to me, where someone scumreads me, I say "let's talk about your reasons X, Y, and Z for thinking I'm scum and why I don't feel they're valid", and they respond with "shut up scum." Frustrating situation, yes, but I've seen it from both alignments. Is that how you would characterize this, and if not, what about it is different?
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:12 am

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In post 1213, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1210, Drixx wrote:KM clearly isn't ignoring everything I say.
Maybe not, but it seems like she's ignoring your attempts to start an actual dialogue, right? That's the kind of thing that's happened to me, where someone scumreads me, I say "let's talk about your reasons X, Y, and Z for thinking I'm scum and why I don't feel they're valid", and they respond with "shut up scum." Frustrating situation, yes, but I've seen it from both alignments. Is that how you would characterize this, and if not, what about it is different?
I don't see any evidence to support that supposition.
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:14 am

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So can you tell me what you're trying to accomplish here S_S? You're engaging with me pretty heavily in an attempt to defend KM here ... but I've managed basically no traction there while one of the other things I pointed out today is a viable wagon. Like ... I would like to understand what you're trying to accomplish here.
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:18 am

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Hectic is town.


If we can actually reverse this wagon on Titus, I’d prefer to because I agree BG is self resolving.
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:25 am

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In post 1214, Drixx wrote:I don't see any evidence to support that supposition.
I don't see any evidence to refute it, either.
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:27 am

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In post 1217, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1214, Drixx wrote:I don't see any evidence to support that supposition.
I don't see any evidence to refute it, either.
"Unicorns exist!"
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:28 am

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Nice checkmate
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:28 am

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In post 1215, Drixx wrote:So can you tell me what you're trying to accomplish here S_S? You're engaging with me pretty heavily in an attempt to defend KM here ... but I've managed basically no traction there while one of the other things I pointed out today is a viable wagon. Like ... I would like to understand what you're trying to accomplish here.
- get inside your head so I can understand and hopefully read you better

- understand exactly why you think KM is scum so I can either join your push or try to convince you to weaken your read, depending on whether I agree with your reasoning (and it seems pretty shaky right now).
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:28 am

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In post 1217, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1214, Drixx wrote:I don't see any evidence to support that supposition.
I don't see any evidence to refute it, either.
Sure you do. Other people that KM isn't scum reading have weighed in and said that it's reasonable to ask for brief reasoning.

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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:29 am

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In post 1218, Elsa Jay wrote:"Unicorns exist!"
"Where's the evidence?"
"Same to you, can you prove they DON'T exist?"
"...what?"
"Checkmate."
Exactly. Drixx is the first person. He responded to me saying KM might be town by pointing out that I didn't have any evidence for it.
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:30 am

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@Amrun, Thoughts on Black Ranger and tictac?

I hope that this game goes exactly like Wake's Rolemadness did day 1 (minus the gunsmith). Got wagoned D1, got like 6 straight guilties.
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:30 am

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@mod— my vote is suppose to be on hectic
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