that's still...silly logic I think. As it's not totally impossible that all 3 wagons would be on town. In this other game, were any of thee wagons on scum?In post 1766, The Fonz wrote:Yes, and it is SPECIFICALLY normal for Titus. In the just finished Boon game she spent most of her time arguing that because there were three wagons day one, the one that took off was town, therefore one of the others had to be scum.In post 1761, Nero Cain wrote:it is? ?In post 1759, Amrun wrote:normal to think at least one of the counterwagons is scum
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I was trying to say that Nero's reasons for scumreading profii were weak and I don't think having more townreads than scumreads is AI in the slightest.In post 1632, Pink Ball wrote:
Discussing what's one scumteam's best strategy in multiball is nitpickingIn post 1629, AaronFrost wrote:I'm not nitpicking though, I'm trying to understand Nero's profii read because I don't think it makes much sense. There are far scummier slots and Nero is being uncooperative by continuing to tunnel profii despite there being far scummier slots to wagon right now. If that comes off as nitpicking, then so be it.
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It felt like a weird thing to bring up, especially since the game you were talking about (the one he co-modded with me) Wake was A) scum and B) trying to break out of his "I hate Day 1 so I'm gonna lurk" meta. Why would you expect Chemist to know his playstyle based on that?In post 1640, tictac wrote:
alas, for all my affectations of intellectual superiority i have sadly yet to unlock the elusive secrets of acausal mafia-playing. It is therefore tragically always the case that every single post of mine must be based on those posts that comeIn post 1592, AaronFrost wrote:The thing with tictac pointing out Wake's meta felt weird to me, generally weird = scummy. Wake, who is modding the game btw not playing it, is someone who is known to say "I hate Day 1" and then proceeds to lurk for the entire day. Hectic's doing the same thing here, the difference being that Hectic is actually playing the game whereas if he wanted to imitate Wake's playstyle he would just continue to lurk, which he's not. There's no correlation between their play here.earlierin the cosmic order andnoton those posts that arrivelater.
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As long as you're town this game then yes it isIn post 1685, Titus wrote:
Is this finally the rare game where you're town with me? Please say it is.In post 1629, AaronFrost wrote:I'm not nitpicking though, I'm trying to understand Nero's profii read because I don't think it makes much sense. There are far scummier slots and Nero is being uncooperative by continuing to tunnel profii despite there being far scummier slots to wagon right now. If that comes off as nitpicking, then so be it.
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Note to self: Try out the new mafia strategy of accusing everyone of being scum. You're guaranteed to be right somewhere.In post 1724, The Fonz wrote:Or to put it another way Nero you have so fucking many scum reads (or "reads") you're gonna be right on a few of them by simple chance.- eth0s
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In post 1775, Nero Cain wrote:
that's still...silly logic I think. As it's not totally impossible that all 3 wagons would be on town. In this other game, were any of thee wagons on scum?In post 1766, The Fonz wrote:
Yes, and it is SPECIFICALLY normal for Titus. In the just finished Boon game she spent most of her time arguing that because there were three wagons day one, the one that took off was town, therefore one of the others had to be scum.In post 1761, Nero Cain wrote:
it is? ?In post 1759, Amrun wrote:normal to think at least one of the counterwagons is scum
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ok fine but I wasn't in that game.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Didn’t say you were. But doesn’t that change your perspective on that comment of Titus’?In post 1785, Nero Cain wrote:ok fine but I wasn't in that game.- davesaz
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Probability wise, the odds of being wrong on all of them is surprisingly low and goes down with number of reads, or conversely the odds of being right on at least one goes up with number of reads. So trying to read knowledge into what Fonz was saying is incorrect, he's right from a pure math point of view and it doesn't require knowledge of anyone's alignment to say that.In post 1740, Nero Cain wrote:I have X number of scum reads. I do think I'm right but it's numerically possibly that I could be wrong. Fonz saying that I will be right on some of them is a slip, no?A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- davesaz
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I agree, Titus tends not to read when subbing in.In post 1751, Amrun wrote:Actually, it only requires basic reading comprehension and know that Titus hadn’t read the game at that point, which she is not only well known for, but explicitly said.A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- Elsa Jay
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I vaguely remember seeing some talk of votes outside major wagons as being useless.
I disagree on that point, this far away from deadline. Early day is for sorting and votes help with sorting.
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I've been scum reading Rex for awhile now. Why are you asking questions that I've already answered?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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If I scumread Rex, would you vote there with me?In post 1796, Nero Cain wrote:I've been scum reading Rex for awhile now. Why are you asking questions that I've already answered?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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If I scumread Rex, would you vote there with me?In post 1796, Nero Cain wrote:I've been scum reading Rex for awhile now. Why are you asking questions that I've already answered?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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