Newbie 1992 | Game Over

[Menalque]

can someone declare intent so that we can get a claim

[Menalque]

Re: datisi idk I think that sort of thing is exactly what town!her tends to get paranoid about

I agree her tone is a little off overall but idk if it’s off enough to scumread her for and idk if she’s able to avoid effort-telling as scum yet, and I think she’s trying hard enough this game to be v likely town even if I wouldn’t lock it up here like I would in some games

yeah but why does he get paranoid about that conversation between the two of us, i'm not sure why it was affecting his read

I think she's paranoid about me trying to pocket you bc it's behaviour she might expect from scum!me

[Datisi]

Re: datisi idk I think that sort of thing is exactly what town!her tends to get paranoid about

I agree her tone is a little off overall but idk if it’s off enough to scumread her for and idk if she’s able to avoid effort-telling as scum yet, and I think she’s trying hard enough this game to be v likely town even if I wouldn’t lock it up here like I would in some games

yeah but why does he get paranoid about that conversation between the two of us, i'm not sure why it was affecting his read

how could it not affect my read? if i'm having both of you as town and we're having each other as towns and whatnot and then there's like signs that that may no longer be the case i can't really ignore it?

also i don't really read slots all by myself, i take others' thoughts in consideration too so

[Menalque]

actually,

mara, you should claim as clidd has basically already stated intent

[Karnage]

Vote Count 1.19

Marashu (4) ~

Menalque, Datisi, Maduisha, skitter30,

Datisi (2) ~

team rocket queen, GeneralWu,

clidd (1) ~

word321,

skitter30 (1) ~

Marashu,

Not voting (1) ~

clidd,

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2020-03-27 19:08:54)

V/LA:

• skitter30 - Fridays and Saturdays & mental health vla for a couple of days (beginning 3/23)

[team rocket queen]

@trq, would you be willing to vote Mara with us?

can someone declare intent so that we can get a claim

intent to hammer

[word321]

I do agree lynching mara would benefit town, him fliping scum or town, as Ive said earlier in 821, but I do think it's still kind of rash. But recent events have made me weight the options different.
To be more concrete, I can only imagine something like a 883 as a measure to put pressure. It is equally or more plausable for scum to actually try to hammer in that situation. Marashu's hammer is going either way, so for scum, it would be meaningless to NOT try to get into the wagon (unless u r in a position like GW). So, I can only think of such a post as a way to see how ppl react, if trying to read it from a town perspective. This is a newbie match, so I think that would make it something like that even more effective.
But alas if we had some little doubt that there are ppl trying very hard to push the lynch, there is no doubt now. This situation hasnt changed from a D1 lynch on an inactive player that was mainly pushed for the doubt on GW, wich if Mara flips town, may as well die tonight. Of course, nobody can force GW to say what he did; its unplausible to think he supported this kind of move. But outside pressure can help.
I do find very interesting the interaction btw dat skit and men and will look on that. But the new state of the game makes me think that a lynch on mara has become more benefitial that not lynching him. Since trq has already stated her intent to hammer, mine is unnecessary, but its there.

[GeneralWu]

darn it guys you're actually lynching marashu
this case is so bad rn

[Datisi]

863? no? ok

[Marashu]

I can't say I agree with lynching a townie, but I can see why people are on my train. I am

Vanilla Townie

. I just hope that behaviour on my train will help catch scum.

When I flip town, watch out for skitt (who I think is very likely scum) and clidd (who is probably scum).

[clidd]

Are these your only reads ?



I would like your opinion on other slots as well.

[clidd]

I am inclined to continue considering you

scum

for the lack of opinion in the

Datisi

x

Menalque

AtE case.

You also seem to have forgotten your observation between

me

and

GW

, since you cited only me as a potential suspect.

There was no statement about

TRQ

and

word

. Are they townreads for you ?

[clidd]

Plus:

Skitter tried to postpone your lynch to collect a claim, why didn't you mention that at any time ?

[Marashu]

Mena might be scum, but if so, Mena's playing well. Definitely possible but unlikely.

I haven't forgotten you and GW. I just still don't see you as being scumbuddies.

I'm still thinking TRQ could be town. Less sure about word, but I feel like word's arguments seem to follow so is likely town.

[clidd]

And ?

[clidd]

I feel that your reaction is not in line with the

town!Marashu

scenario being wrongly accused.

These reads look very lazy and underdeveloped. I would be more flexible in believing if you had a greater explanation of all points cited.

[Menalque]

Do we think that claiming VT is likely from scum!mara here?

[clidd]

Yes, it is plausible.

[skitter30]

Re: datisi idk I think that sort of thing is exactly what town!her tends to get paranoid about

I agree her tone is a little off overall but idk if it’s off enough to scumread her for and idk if she’s able to avoid effort-telling as scum yet, and I think she’s trying hard enough this game to be v likely town even if I wouldn’t lock it up here like I would in some games

yeah but why does he get paranoid about that conversation between the two of us, i'm not sure why it was affecting his read

how could it not affect my read? if i'm having both of you as town and we're having each other as towns and whatnot and then there's like signs that that may no longer be the case i can't really ignore it?

also i don't really read slots all by myself, i take others' thoughts in consideration too so

are you still townreading me because mena is?
are you townreading mena because i am?

[Maduisha]

I don't buy the claim. He's just saying VT counting on the small chance of people overthinking the fact that he's not trying to fish for PRs before dying. Notice how he doesn't address Skitter's defense of his case on her, and when Clidd pointed out that Skitter delayed his lynch, he ignored the comment. I'd call for a hammer.

[Datisi]

are you still townreading me because mena is?
are you townreading mena because i am?

Pretty much, yes. Don't get me wrong, I am townreading you regardless, but i don't think I'd be willing to put too much stock into that read considering my usual read quality, at least for now.

And not really. I'm townreading him myself (even tho i do take others', including your, reads into consideration)

[Menalque]

I lowkey want to pivot to word

[Datisi]

I lowkey want to pivot to

word

Wu

[Menalque]

does Wu make sense tho?

[Datisi]

darn it guys you're actually lynching marashu
this case is so bad rn

this is not a post that's meant to farm towncred upon town!mara flip but doesn't actually convince any of us not to lynch mara. not at all.