Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[SirCakez]

Votecount 1.14

momo (7) - Hectic, Battle Mage, farside22, Morning Tweet, GuiltyLion, Albert B. Rampage, Elsa Jay
Hectic (4) - davesaz, Almost50, iDanyboy, Blake Belladonna
Drixx (2) - VaultDweller, Pine
xtoxm (1) - BBmolla
Battle Mage (1) - Vecna
BBmolla (1) - GeorgeBailey
Vecna (1) - Drixx
GuiltyLion (1) - Gamma Emerald
Pine (1) - Pisskop
Albert B. Rampage (1) - momo

Not voting (1) - xtoxm

(expired on 2020-05-01 15:10:00) remain until day end

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to reach a majority.

VaultDweller is V/LA through Tuesday, April 28.
Drixx is V/LA through Friday, May 1.

"You'd be surprised what tools can save a life."

[momo]

Momo, why word it so confusingly and not clarify that in the first post? Also, kindly explain what a fucking Trap is. Is that the gimmick here? Are we dealing with a team of Poisoners?

That's the way the role was worded in the mod PM. Nothing I can do about it.

Traps are the way Saw kills people. It's from the source material.

[Vecna]

It's moot now. I think momo/vecna/blake makes sense.

Yes, im hard defending momo in public and openly trying to push the wagon onto blake instead. scum all-star right here

Big brainy boy

[GuiltyLion]

Ideally before night I'd like Pine/BM to confirm that this was the plan and that they side with ABR here relating to Momo's 1337 but generally this all feels right and makes sense. I think Blake and Elsa look most bad here in terms of associations. I can seeeee why Vecna looks bad too but I kinda still think he's town bc my townread on him was so strong prior, though the sudden pivot to Gamma was a bit odd maybe a "let's set up a future bus" situation if it's like momo/Vecna/Gamma. I was trying to draw attention to Gamma many times this game bc Gamma feels heckin scummy to me still and didn't get any support from Vecna until now once other wagons are a lot more likely to go through

p-edit momo why would you WANT to make it to LYLO as town lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's not a 3rd party role.

It's a town role. Survivor is just the name of our PT. Being 1-shot trap immune is my role.

Remember what BM said about your town play being aggressive and bombastic. You didn't play the way a bulletproof town plays, and given both of your claims we have no choice but to end this now.

This is stupid at best and disingenuous at worst. We have literally 19 other options. We have four days to lynch someone else. Yeah, I'm not play agressively. Want to know a fact you can check with my meta.

I've never made it to LyLo as town because I always get lynched. I'm playing less agressively because I would like to actually see a game to it's end.

Aggressiveness is a town trait. Scum can coast but town can't afford to. Bulletproof town have an even bigger reason to step up and take space in the game. You think I'm the scum in our PT? I don't believe you.

[Xtoxm]

I'm not running anyone else up today. If a doc is out there he can safely guard Hectic without worrying about being forced to claim. I'm ready to wrap this up and go to night if you are too xtoxm.

im not eager to rush onto the cw, tbh
with momo immediately clarifying that its not a 3p claim
1-shot bulletproof claim basically? thats a claim that at this point in the day almost certainly results in momo being lynched. anti-survivalistic claims dont *usually* come from scum..
i think BM is the more likely scum in your hood.

[Vecna]

The wagon on me has built ridiculously fast and is almost certainly scum driven. How fast I went from being widely townleaned/read is not natural. Hectic points out that he's been crumbing cop the whole game, but it's absolutely the fakest crumbing I've seen in a while. Scum can call themselves detective in their posts too.

It's clear that y'all aren't believing me, so I've decided to claim.

I am Simone, a 1-shot Trap Immune Survivor.

I was hoping that I wouldn't have to claim, so that scum could waste one of their traps on me, but it is what it is. Lynching me rn is not smart because scum can't get rid of me when they want to. My role adds value to this town.

oh. Well I guess this makes me look pretty stupid.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ideally before night I'd like Pine/BM to confirm that this was the plan and that they side with ABR here relating to Momo's 1337 but generally this all feels right and makes sense. I think Blake and Elsa look most bad here in terms of associations. I can seeeee why Vecna looks bad too but I kinda still think he's town bc my townread on him was so strong prior, though the sudden pivot to Gamma was a bit odd maybe a "let's set up a future bus" situation if it's like momo/Vecna/Gamma. I was trying to draw attention to Gamma many times this game bc Gamma feels heckin scummy to me still and didn't get any support from Vecna until now once other wagons are a lot more likely to go through

p-edit momo why would you WANT to make it to LYLO as town lol

Our PT is made up of the survivors of jigsaw's past games, he didn't lie about that nor did I say that on the last page.

[Vecna]

wait what
isnt this game confirmed no 3ps

yup

[Vecna]

wait what
isnt this game confirmed no 3ps

It's not a 3rd party role.

It's a town role. Survivor is just the name of our PT. Being 1-shot trap immune is my role.

oh

[GuiltyLion]

wait what
isnt this game confirmed no 3ps

Yeah

wait then ABR why the laugh emoji here, I thought this was you laughing at Momo's claim?

[Albert B. Rampage]

wait what
isnt this game confirmed no 3ps

Yeah

wait then ABR why the laugh emoji here, I thought this was you laughing at Momo's claim?

His claim is not believable to me regardless of it not being a 3p claim.

[momo]

You think I'm the scum in our PT? I don't believe you.

It can't be anyone else.

momo - I know for a fact I'm town.
Pine - Yes, he's lurked a bit but nothing about his play seems particularly scummy.
Battle Mage - I don't like that he's scumreading me, but his casual tone and attempts at actually scumhunting don't seem scummy.
ABR - I can't read you well, but you've tried to make it seem like you're 100% town too deliberately and the way you're pushing this wagon is very sus. Your play seems scummy.

So yeah, out of the 4 of us, you're most likely scum.

[momo]

wait what
isnt this game confirmed no 3ps

Yeah

wait then ABR why the laugh emoji here, I thought this was you laughing at Momo's claim?

His claim is not believable to me regardless of it not being a 3p claim.

That's my mod-given role. You not believing it doesn't make it any less true. You're too adamant about this. Pushing for a mislynch this hard is obvscumming.

I stand by my vote on ABR.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If I was Blake-scum right now, I would worry about Hectic's claim blowing the game wide open, and make a last-ditch attempt to save momo with a brand new bandwagon.

[GuiltyLion]

momo why the flip flop on BM now? Yesterday you seemed to think he was scummy

[farside22]

I'm not running anyone else up today. If a doc is out there he can safely guard Hectic without worrying about being forced to claim. I'm ready to wrap this up and go to night if you are too xtoxm.

im not eager to rush onto the cw, tbh
with momo immediately clarifying that its not a 3p claim
1-shot bulletproof claim basically? thats a claim that at this point in the day almost certainly results in momo being lynched. anti-survivalistic claims dont *usually* come from scum..
i think BM is the more likely scum in your hood.

Traps were used in the movie against people to kill them.
Bf/trap is an oxymoron to say the least, but i digress that momo play doesnt ring town as far as meta goes.
Holding back due to wagon analysis because out of 4 players (maybe 5) you had sr on more players there, reads fake reasoning to me.

[Vecna]

At least this hood explanation & hunt makes BM's weird actions a bit more understandable

[GuiltyLion]

Momo, why word it so confusingly and not clarify that in the first post? Also, kindly explain what a fucking Trap is. Is that the gimmick here? Are we dealing with a team of Poisoners?

the more I think about this the more this is a super scummy post regardless of Momo's alignment, btw

I actually don't think I want to assume "there must be a scum in the hood" regarding the Survivor group, if momo townflips I don't think that has to point to scum in the other three. It's good to consider but I'm not convinced it's necessarily true.

[Vecna]

Well, at least were not losing any strong PR's by lynching Momo. Unless Hectic is town (his indignity to having to claim reads off the charts genuine) and is allowed to get a shot off on Momo, the odds of him ever being targetted by a NK are zero now.

[Xtoxm]

I'm not running anyone else up today. If a doc is out there he can safely guard Hectic without worrying about being forced to claim. I'm ready to wrap this up and go to night if you are too xtoxm.

im not eager to rush onto the cw, tbh
with momo immediately clarifying that its not a 3p claim
1-shot bulletproof claim basically? thats a claim that at this point in the day almost certainly results in momo being lynched. anti-survivalistic claims dont *usually* come from scum..
i think BM is the more likely scum in your hood.

Traps were used in the movie against people to kill them.
Bf/trap is an oxymoron to say the least, but i digress that momo play doesnt ring town as far as meta goes.
Holding back due to wagon analysis because out of 4 players (maybe 5) you had sr on more players there, reads fake reasoning to me.

ok well you failing to townread me here is kind of a massive scumtell for you
im not going far into this game and whenever i flip will be a very bad look

[Vecna]

Momo, why word it so confusingly and not clarify that in the first post? Also, kindly explain what a fucking Trap is. Is that the gimmick here? Are we dealing with a team of Poisoners?

the more I think about this the more this is a super scummy post regardless of Momo's alignment, btw

I actually don't think I want to assume "there must be a scum in the hood" regarding the Survivor group, if momo townflips I don't think that has to point to scum in the other three. It's good to consider but I'm not convinced it's necessarily true.

I mean, the movies strongly imply that there is an acolyte in the survivors. Ofcourse, that is also the best way for a sadistic mod like cakez ( ) to create some awesome drama in this game.

ANYWAYS

Anyone could also figure out that the survivor PT is most likely to contain the strongest town PR's.

I WANT TO KNOW

_WHO_

In that PT started the witchhunt and instigated the others to join them.

Because -that- is the most likely scumslot in there.

[GuiltyLion]

ah okay fair point, I'm not really considering flavor at all, I've only seen the original Saw and I think Saw 2 or 3 one time.

[Vecna]

Also, odds of Momo being a traitor and outing to his teammates who are in there as a means to signal to kill them at night?

hmmm

[Hectic]

Hectic is a bad wagon because of votes like these. No reasoning behind them, other than it's a good wagon.

Keep reading, it comes out as you go.

Let's hear what you saw then, Dave, now that we know the case doesn't actually exist. There's not going to be any continuity errors on my watch.