Micro 935 | Chain of Command | Game Over!

[Alduskkel]

I almost never read games that I'm not playing in, so my play mostly develops by trying to improve upon my play in previous games. You'll have to take this with a grain of salt since I haven't rolled scum in ages

and

this is self-meta, but my approach to scum is to start by replicating my town play, but subtly shift it so that my partner(s) are less likely to be lynched. I might also lurk a bit more if I feel posting might disrupt the game going in a way I want it to, although because my activity levels also depend on IRL stuff, it'd probably be impossible to tell from the outside what lurking is scumlurking and what isn't.

did this ever happen btw

Not yet

[Kanna]

reminder still waiting on Kanna's reads

I'm in a confusing state right now but I think <Datisi, OkaPoka, Aldus, DrP> are town, the rest i can't tell you atm

[Kanna]

For my original case, it’s basically

>scum!ico likes to deathtunnel early. Example: the ame tunnel for RQS, the Luca tunnel for scumreading him, the clidd tunnel for his style. Battle mage in Hard Boiled Eggs.
>This is agenda-y because he’s consciously or subconsciously aware of and playing to his wincon. He picks one target usually and is fairly aggressive in saying everything they say (when a lot of it is surface) is scummy. He drops them when they are not viable anymore. E.g there is a reason there are 3 deathtunnels in strawberry D1
>town!ico seems much more random. He noticeably does not *deathtunnel* like this. The lack of deathtunneling makes his townreads more obvious by comparison

[OkaPoka]

is he deathtunneling here?

[Alduskkel]

So are you no longer scumreading Icon, Kanna?

[Kanna]

Addressed the first in 490.

I mean, I get that post has a jokey tone, but it's still used to justify the L-1. What were you mindmelding with Aldu on for pages 15 to 17?

No my main point was the deathtunnel parallel between ame/luca/clidd. Do you not think they were alike?

What made you townread Ico?

Also on the flip side, what made you think Ico was scum in strawberry?

[Kanna]

is he deathtunneling here?

i feel like he started a deathtunnel on DrP. But then I brought things up and that muddies the waters so its a ???

So are you no longer scumreading Icon, Kanna?

There's a weird part to my scumread so I'm asking about it

[OkaPoka]

you don't think ico's AtE is genuine? @drpepper

No.

I don't think AtE is Towny either

I literally think ur scum here. You have expressed several scumreads this game so far, and you have not bothered to sort a single one of them. You just go 'this is scum, and then vote there'. No interaction to further sort. No intention to double-check for errors.

You just vote and tunnel. It's scum behaviour.

Yeah wouldn't it be easier for me as scum to just sheep the biggest wagon instead of going for unpopular opinions here?

You maybe miscontruing scum for someone who just doesn't play by pushing walls or post by post analysis because I got tired of doing that when I was active a few years ago

Plus if I was scum shouldn't I have hammered Aldus right now to save my ass from being lynched today?

what r ur unpopular opinions?

[Kanna]

I mean, I get that post has a jokey tone, but it's still used to justify the L-1. What were you mindmelding with Aldu on for pages 15 to 17?

oh yeah and elaborate on your Aldus read please. Was it just because of the L-1? Do you think L-1's like that are scummy? Or was it partially for the Okapoka case?

[OkaPoka]

actually since nobody has commented on this yet

are you guys not irked by QQ's l1 post?

[OkaPoka]

or is that just the elephant in the room and we all handshake that was pretty bad and dont talk more about it

[Kanna]

do you think the iconeum progression i outlined in 423 would be easy to simulate as mafia?

Honestly, I don't see why not. I don't see him describing you guys as "free-flowing, funny jokingly yet still producing reads and pushing things" as a particularly good reason wrt to the posts

[Kanna]

QQ reminds of someone very special

Spoiler:

Non Imh

[Alduskkel]

actually since nobody has commented on this yet

are you guys not irked by QQ's l1 post?

yeah it was pretty bad

[Kanna]

I mean, I get that post has a jokey tone, but it's still used to justify the L-1. What were you mindmelding with Aldu on for pages 15 to 17?

oh yeah and elaborate on your Aldus read please. Was it just because of the L-1? Do you think L-1's like that are scummy? Or was it partially for the Okapoka case?

Actually, just an Aldus read explanation please. I think Shiki already answered this so I'd prefer it come from Hectic

[DoctorPepper]

you don't think ico's AtE is genuine? @drpepper

No.

I don't think AtE is Towny either

I literally think ur scum here. You have expressed several scumreads this game so far, and you have not bothered to sort a single one of them. You just go 'this is scum, and then vote there'. No interaction to further sort. No intention to double-check for errors.

You just vote and tunnel. It's scum behaviour.

Yeah wouldn't it be easier for me as scum to just sheep the biggest wagon instead of going for unpopular opinions here?

You maybe miscontruing scum for someone who just doesn't play by pushing walls or post by post analysis because I got tired of doing that when I was active a few years ago

Plus if I was scum shouldn't I have hammered Aldus right now to save my ass from being lynched today?

what r ur unpopular opinions?

Lynch ICO, Euph is fluffy, Aldus is town

[DoctorPepper]

reminder still waiting on Kanna's reads

I'm in a confusing state right now but I think <Datisi, OkaPoka, Aldus, DrP> are town, the rest i can't tell you atm

Oh yay you're town

[Iconeum]

Aside from being an oversimplification, you're omitting the fact that your level of confidence was unjustified when from a town perspective you should have more to investigate to avoid mislynches.

If this is your take on my case, then what do you make of DrPepper? You unvote him and say he can be townie, but if anything, I've been interacting and talking to people to sort whereas it's DrPeppermint who's completely not engaging with scumreads to sort/avoid mislynches.

Why apply this to me, but not Pepper?

[Iconeum]

i agree that its pretty bad play and too incriminating for ald to push ico like that

and for him to realize that too i think makes it less likely?

idk maybe if i really want to tinfoil, he did a bad push on purpose /shrug

nah, he probably didn't predict the fallout from putting me on L-1
it wasn't bad play, but it turned out to be incriminating so i don't think that points to town!aldus

[Iconeum]

Lynch ICO, Euph is fluffy, Aldus is town

lynch town, shade Euph, and call scum town

that's an unpopular opinion alright

[DoctorPepper]

Discredit away but hey, these are genuine beliefs

[Iconeum]

hmm fair enough

@kanna, can you reread my iso, or like the first half? Do you honestly see me deathtunneling DrP here?

[Iconeum]

Discredit away but hey, these are genuine beliefs

Do you think you have done effort in actually sorting me, or are you just scumreading me and voting me therefore?

[DoctorPepper]

Probably conf bias on my part that I already had you as scum and am kinda convinced

[Iconeum]

Do you think I have been trying to sort townreads and scumreads (albeit faked or not)?