Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Albert B. Rampage]

Can someone catch me up on why I’m looking foolish instead of me continuing to do so

I dunno dude. We could lynch pisskop if you want, he would be a marginally harder lynch. Or Firebringer.

[Battle Mage]

Battle Mage I’m not scum

Ok dude, would you be up for lynching GuiltyLion instead?

[BBmolla]

Morning Tweet gimme the deets

I’m aware of the ABR claim shit

[Morning Tweet]

he's also dead, which confirms that neighbour is a possible role in this role madness game, thereby answering iDany's post. so.. yeah

your defense of drixx reminds me of something i could say to you about ABR. as I said i haven't really looked thru yet but my inital lynchpool is something like Drixx/dave/Blake/pisskop/BBMolla

BBMolla? great, time to put the chips in! I'll take Pisskop as a compromise if absolutely necessary.

I think you misunderstood my point about Momo - he wasn't a normal neighbour, he was a

scum

neighbour. So that is a "role" which is not a standard vanilla role. Clearly there are a couple of those in the game, so it seems obtuse to suggest the existence of scum in the hoods proves there must be vanilla town neighbours in the game. Personally, I don't buy it, and once again you've made a deduction which seems objectively unlikely and portrayed it as fact. This is not conduct which feels protown to me.

"Scum" is an alignment. "Neighbour" is a role. The fact he was on the scumteam does not make his role somehow more special than a town neighbour.

Momo's flip proves that neighbour is an acceptable role in this role madness.

[BBmolla]

Battle Mage I’m not scum

Ok dude, would you be up for lynching GuiltyLion instead?

Why not Gamma or Danny

[Albert B. Rampage]

BM is a notoriously wishy washy player, votes you one second unvotes you the other and at the end of a week you can't even remember who he scumreads anymore.

You're better off voting for FB with me.

[BBmolla]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Just a reminder that this is the mods definition so a neighbor is perfectly acceptable

ABR might be scum regardless of that but a case built on that is foolish

FOOOOLIOIISSHH

[BBmolla]

I thought BB was town

And firebringer is accurately reading me

[Morning Tweet]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Just a reminder that this is the mods definition so a neighbor is perfectly acceptable

ABR might be scum regardless of that but a case built on that is foolish

FOOOOLIOIISSHH

I think BM is the one using that as evidence against ABR

[Albert B. Rampage]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Just a reminder that this is the mods definition so a neighbor is perfectly acceptable

ABR might be scum regardless of that but a case built on that is foolish

FOOOOLIOIISSHH

Nobody would build a case around such a flimsy reason.

[Morning Tweet]

Oh i misread disregard that last post

[Albert B. Rampage]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Just a reminder that this is the mods definition so a neighbor is perfectly acceptable

ABR might be scum regardless of that but a case built on that is foolish

FOOOOLIOIISSHH

I think BM is the one using that as evidence against ABR

[Morning Tweet]

This is where I’d ask my scum chat

IF I HAD ONE

Pretend I made the last two posts Timmy Turners dad May May about his trophy

Thank you for that

Morning Tweet gimme the deets

What is it you're looking for from me

[Battle Mage]

Main takeaways from this:

1. MorningTweet has U-turned on her neighbour Blake Belladonna, who she earlier thought was probably town or something? Not sure what has led to that, given Blake has barely posted? Could do with explanation.

2. I'm somehow less townie than VaultDweller?? Little bit harsh, given I'm the towniest townie of all.

3. Surprised at her view that "if ABR was town, someone on the scumteam would try to bring him down" when ABR has, so far, been untouched by any of the traps at night. Add it to the list of weak ABR defences which don't stack up.

Overall, pleasing to see some actual suspects here.

1. No..?

2. Sorry BM i still love you though <3

3. By bring him down I mean in thread, not at night. Sort of a baseless theory sure. I just have a sneaking suspicion that opposing ABR's leadership is something somebody on the scumteam would have to do at some point. I can see him as being easier to oppose in day rather than just killed at night

If I was scum, and ABR was town, I guarantee I'd have trapped him on Night 1. No scumteam wants a loud influential townie running the show. And the beauty of having night-kills is that you can get rid of people like that easily. So I think your assertion here is incredible.

re: Blake - it would be helpful for you to explain why her not posting made you change your read on her to such a significant extent? You indicated her replacing out was suspicious, so maybe start there.

[pisskop]

wait. Who is Eddie cane?

[Eddie Cane]

I've like, already done one. Several times. Have I not been clear about who I want to lynch today?

You want to lynch ABR, and Molla, and apparently as of the newest page GL, and I believe you gave Pisskop and someone else as compromise lynches. I do not remember seeing a full reads list from you other than EoD1

@Eddie Cane

Will read later, cheers.

Eddie Cane!! Excited to play with ya again.

You too mate!

i have been somewhat reading this game. last i looked bbmolla was being pushed and he was very townie.

I had to iso Firedoge to see that he posted something. Explain this take please?

[pisskop]

Thought ABR placed out

[Eddie Cane]

wait. Who is Eddie cane?

The best mafia player.

[Battle Mage]

he's also dead, which confirms that neighbour is a possible role in this role madness game, thereby answering iDany's post. so.. yeah

your defense of drixx reminds me of something i could say to you about ABR. as I said i haven't really looked thru yet but my inital lynchpool is something like Drixx/dave/Blake/pisskop/BBMolla

BBMolla? great, time to put the chips in! I'll take Pisskop as a compromise if absolutely necessary.

I think you misunderstood my point about Momo - he wasn't a normal neighbour, he was a

scum

neighbour. So that is a "role" which is not a standard vanilla role. Clearly there are a couple of those in the game, so it seems obtuse to suggest the existence of scum in the hoods proves there must be vanilla town neighbours in the game. Personally, I don't buy it, and once again you've made a deduction which seems objectively unlikely and portrayed it as fact. This is not conduct which feels protown to me.

"Scum" is an alignment. "Neighbour" is a role. The fact he was on the scumteam does not make his role somehow more special than a town neighbour.

Momo's flip proves that neighbour is an acceptable role in this role madness.

I think of being on a scumteam as being a power role, coz u get to do shit, innit?

Seriously though, the point is not whether it's conceptually possible to have a town neighbour, but whether you actually believe there is 1. I do not. You evidently do. But we are getting to a point where it becomes less and less likely as more and more claims come out.

Maybe we can cut to the chase - if ABR purported to be the only vanilla town neighbour in the entire game, would you believe him?

[Battle Mage]

I've like, already done one. Several times. Have I not been clear about who I want to lynch today?

You want to lynch ABR, and Molla, and apparently as of the newest page GL, and I believe you gave Pisskop and someone else as compromise lynches. I do not remember seeing a full reads list from you other than EoD1

ISO me

[Morning Tweet]

Main takeaways from this:

1. MorningTweet has U-turned on her neighbour Blake Belladonna, who she earlier thought was probably town or something? Not sure what has led to that, given Blake has barely posted? Could do with explanation.

2. I'm somehow less townie than VaultDweller?? Little bit harsh, given I'm the towniest townie of all.

3. Surprised at her view that "if ABR was town, someone on the scumteam would try to bring him down" when ABR has, so far, been untouched by any of the traps at night. Add it to the list of weak ABR defences which don't stack up.

Overall, pleasing to see some actual suspects here.

1. No..?

2. Sorry BM i still love you though <3

3. By bring him down I mean in thread, not at night. Sort of a baseless theory sure. I just have a sneaking suspicion that opposing ABR's leadership is something somebody on the scumteam would have to do at some point. I can see him as being easier to oppose in day rather than just killed at night

If I was scum, and ABR was town, I guarantee I'd have trapped him on Night 1. No scumteam wants a loud influential townie running the show. And the beauty of having night-kills is that you can get rid of people like that easily. So I think your assertion here is incredible.

re: Blake - it would be helpful for you to explain why her not posting made you change your read on her to such a significant extent? You indicated her replacing out was suspicious, so maybe start there.

ABR is like, the #1 person I'd expect to be protected. Do you always nightkill the most widely townread (or at least most influential) townie? I wouldn't.

plus as we found out, ABR did get protected lmao

As scum I would probably avoid ABR n1, then shade him really hard d2 and onwards in order to make protectives second guess themselves, and then get him lynched (or possibly nightkill him if his reads are too accurate and people are still mostly trusting him)

Where are you getting the idea that I

ever

trusted Blake? Not only that, but I said her replace out isn't something I want to focus on.

[Battle Mage]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Just a reminder that this is the mods definition so a neighbor is perfectly acceptable

ABR might be scum regardless of that but a case built on that is foolish

FOOOOLIOIISSHH

I think BM is the one using that as evidence against ABR

This is a misrepresentation, I've been clear on my view that I don't believe there are plain old town neighbours in the game. Conceptually there could be. But I don't think there is. So ABR would then be lying, duh.

[Eddie Cane]

I've like, already done one. Several times. Have I not been clear about who I want to lynch today?

You want to lynch ABR, and Molla, and apparently as of the newest page GL, and I believe you gave Pisskop and someone else as compromise lynches. I do not remember seeing a full reads list from you other than EoD1

ISO me

Quote it please, not seeing it.

Also, I remember you doing some in-depth setup spec about amount of scum per hood; I asked in my hood and they said there's no list of who's in it, could you quote that stuff again please? I'm I think its called police officer or FBI or w.e.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Just a reminder that this is the mods definition so a neighbor is perfectly acceptable

ABR might be scum regardless of that but a case built on that is foolish

FOOOOLIOIISSHH

I think BM is the one using that as evidence against ABR

This is a misrepresentation, I've been clear on my view that I don't believe there are plain old town neighbours in the game. Conceptually there could be. But I don't think there is. So ABR would then be lying, duh.

Revolutionary.

I think BM just cracked this game wide open guys.

[Morning Tweet]

he's also dead, which confirms that neighbour is a possible role in this role madness game, thereby answering iDany's post. so.. yeah

your defense of drixx reminds me of something i could say to you about ABR. as I said i haven't really looked thru yet but my inital lynchpool is something like Drixx/dave/Blake/pisskop/BBMolla

BBMolla? great, time to put the chips in! I'll take Pisskop as a compromise if absolutely necessary.

I think you misunderstood my point about Momo - he wasn't a normal neighbour, he was a

scum

neighbour. So that is a "role" which is not a standard vanilla role. Clearly there are a couple of those in the game, so it seems obtuse to suggest the existence of scum in the hoods proves there must be vanilla town neighbours in the game. Personally, I don't buy it, and once again you've made a deduction which seems objectively unlikely and portrayed it as fact. This is not conduct which feels protown to me.

"Scum" is an alignment. "Neighbour" is a role. The fact he was on the scumteam does not make his role somehow more special than a town neighbour.

Momo's flip proves that neighbour is an acceptable role in this role madness.

I think of being on a scumteam as being a power role, coz u get to do shit, innit?

Seriously though, the point is not whether it's conceptually possible to have a town neighbour, but whether you actually believe there is 1. I do not. You evidently do. But we are getting to a point where it becomes less and less likely as more and more claims come out.

Maybe we can cut to the chase - if ABR purported to be the only vanilla town neighbour in the entire game, would you believe him?

Are you forgetting that Pine was a town neighbour?

I would expect somewhere between maybe 1-3 town neighbours. It will not surprise me AT ALL if there is multiple. 75% of the game is in PTs.