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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 2199, Pink Ball wrote:I'm not particularly townreading you because of spring's obsession on being the quest leader, but yes, NK15 is who I was implying when I said Ali wasn't my first alternative
1114 reads like Kerset tmiing both FotC and LC. It’s a super weird reaction to LC’s post not townreading NK15. Farkset has Hectic as solid town and Pine seems super townie. Getting my slot possibly mislynched would be a great coup for scum!NK15 and I’m starting to think Ali v Raya are likely TvT.

Yeah, had Farkset not flipped scum, I probably wouldn’t have wanted that slot. I knew spring had to be town because it would have had to be an involuntary bus if she was scum, which very rarely happens. :lol:
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 9:09 am

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The thing is, I don't consider spring's interaction with Farkset as a bus 'cause there was no lynch mechanic at that point of the game, so it was a great time to distance. That could be very coordinated. I think they would've planned to flip later in the game tho, not as soon as Fark did.

But yeah Occam's razor yaddah yaddah
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 9:14 am

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In post 2201, Pink Ball wrote:The thing is, I don't consider spring's interaction with Farkset as a bus 'cause there was no lynch mechanic at that point of the game, so it was a great time to distance. That could be very coordinated. I think they would've planned to flip later in the game tho, not as soon as Fark did.

But yeah Occam's razor yaddah yaddah
No, I really believe spring wanted to be quest leader extremely badly, which contradicts this. I also don’t think she’s that good an actress.
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 9:15 am

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Really? I thought spring had a lot of charisma, value needed both to be a good actress and to get the leadership
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 9:20 am

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In post 2203, Pink Ball wrote:Really? I thought spring had a lot of charisma, value needed both to be a good actress and to get the leadership
Are you trolling me now? :lol: You think calling people “stupid” is an optimal strategy for getting elected leader? I mean, it obviously worked so extremely well for her, she got herself captured instead.
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 9:24 am

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Don't misunderstand me, I know that's how it ended, but at some point spring was getting elected while being very vocal about her scumreads. The frustration and toxicity started after we suggested another leader.
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 9:46 am

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In post 2205, Pink Ball wrote:Don't misunderstand me, I know that's how it ended, but at some point spring was getting elected while being very vocal about her scumreads. The frustration and toxicity started after we suggested another leader.
Well, I probably wouldn’t have tried to get elected leader but if I had, I would try to make a persuasive case for why I’d be the most optimal choice. Before I replaced in, I thought spring might actually be a watcher, because I legit can’t understand how she thought voyeur was an important town role.
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 9:57 am

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Well that's what charisma is for: she didn't have to make a persuasive case or anything at all, she just used plain personality. If you know how to use that in your favour, you don't need to do cases, you just go for it. And for me, spring looked pretty self aware of her capacities.
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 10:05 am

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In post 2197, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2185, Raya36 wrote:I believe I claimed everything. In case I didn't say this my role is called town autofarmer
What does an autofarmer do?

@Ame, I believe between spring and myself, I have nothing else to claim.
Each night I automatically gain 1 XP instead of upgrading. And with my upgrade I can cause someone to gain 1 XP as an action
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 10:41 am

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V/LA until Friday.
I'll still be able to meet deadlines.
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 12:30 pm

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In post 2207, Pink Ball wrote:Well that's what charisma is for: she didn't have to make a persuasive case or anything at all, she just used plain personality. If you know how to use that in your favour, you don't need to do cases, you just go for it. And for me, spring looked pretty self aware of her capacities.
You need to spend more time in the Speakeasy and that’s all that I should really say about that.
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Sat May 09, 2020 12:35 pm

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Oh there is something I forgot. I receive 1 XP for each different action I get results for, so since there was a total of only one action performed on Ame last night I received results for, I only got 1 XP.
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2020 1:16 pm

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Oh man you're all boring
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2020 1:16 pm

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Hmmm, am I allowed to say my role name?
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2020 1:17 pm

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Oh right I can
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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2020 1:21 pm

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My role is kinda complicated

I'm Town Cleric (hence post 1509) and it kinda works like this:

At the cost of 3 xp, I can make a list of players. If someone from outside this list tries to kill someone inside the list, I'll stop the kill

I trained both nights and upgraded D2: apparently I get to know who I protected now
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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2020 1:22 pm

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There are other stuff too, but likely only scum will benefit from knowing that
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2020 2:25 pm

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Role Name: Town Bard
Abilities and Cost: twice during the game I may target a player and at the begining of the next night, that player may use an aditional action. Costs 1 XP to do that. My upgraded role is that I get one more shot, and I get barded myself
Actions during each phase: Trained first night, barded Ame and trained second night
Anything else relevant: No.

XP
Starting XP (from your role PM): 1 (note it doesn't give my starting XP in my role PM, they just told me I had 1 in the day 1 start PM)
XP at the end of D1: 1
XP at the end of Quest 1: 1
XP at the end of N1: 2
XP at the end of D2: 1
XP at the end of N2: 1
Current XP: 1

XP needed to upgrade: 2
Have you upgraded (yes/no): Yes
If yes, during which phase: Night 2

Summary: started with 1 XP, got one more from training N1, got one more from FoC's dying, I upgraded during D2 so back to 1 XP, barded Ame which leaves me with 0 XP, but since I got barded myself I could train and I got 1 XP and that's where I am now so I can bard again tonight and train again and so and so until I'm out of shots. Game will probably end before my shots so I think I played the role as was intended.
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2020 2:28 pm

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VC 3.1
Alisae (1)- Hectic
Hectic (1)- Ame

Not voting (8)- Pink Ball, Raya36, Pine, Ginngie, Creature, Raven Branwen, Not Known 15, Alisae

With 10 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-17 20:00:00)

Mod notes: Ame V/LA until Friday. Prodding Pine. Replacing Ginngie.

Public Mechanic Vote
Lightning Rod (5)- Ame, Raya36, Alisae, Raven Branwen, Not Known 15

Not voting (5)- Pink Ball, Pine, Ginngie, Creature, Hectic
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2020 9:01 pm

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Role Name: Vanilla Townie
Abilities and Cost: None
Actions during each phase:Train Night 2
Anything else relevant:Forgot to train Night 1

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Starting XP (from your role PM):1
XP at the end of D1:1
XP at the end of Quest 1:1
XP at the end of N1:2
XP at the end of D2:2
XP at the end of N2:3
Current XP:3

XP needed to upgrade:4
Have you upgraded (yes/no):no
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2020 10:12 pm

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In post 2215, Creature wrote:My role is kinda complicated

I'm Town Cleric (hence post 1509) and it kinda works like this:

At the cost of 3 xp, I can make a list of players. If someone from outside this list tries to kill someone inside the list, I'll stop the kill

I trained both nights and upgraded D2: apparently I get to know who I protected now
So scum didn’t no kill then. I understand your confidence in both Raya and Alisae town now. If you stopped N2 kill, then that obviously clears Raya and I do believe Alisae upgraded, But a blocked NK confitowns Raya.
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2020 10:17 pm

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quote="In post 2217, Pink Ball"]Role Name: Town Bard
Abilities and Cost: twice during the game I may target a player and at the begining of the next night, that player may use an aditional action. Costs 1 XP to do that. My upgraded role is that I get one more shot, and I get barded myself
Actions during each phase: Trained first night, barded Ame and trained second night
Anything else relevant: No.

XP
Starting XP (from your role PM): 1 (note it doesn't give my starting XP in my role PM, they just told me I had 1 in the day 1 start PM)
XP at the end of D1: 1
XP at the end of Quest 1: 1
XP at the end of N1: 2
XP at the end of D2: 1
XP at the end of N2: 1
Current XP: 1

XP needed to upgrade: 2
Have you upgraded (yes/no): Yes
If yes, during which phase: Night 2

Summary: started with 1 XP, got one more from training N1, got one more from FoC's dying, I upgraded during D2 so back to 1 XP, barded Ame which leaves me with 0 XP, but since I got barded myself I could train and I got 1 XP and that's where I am now so I can bard again tonight and train again and so and so until I'm out of shots. Game will probably end before my shots so I think I played the role as was intended.[/quote]



What exactly does bard do? That sounds like it would also fall under the miscellaneous category. Mod told me, that the same category of NA doesn’t affect the amount of XP I get, regardless of the specific action or how many players performing it on the same player.
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Sun May 10, 2020 11:42 pm

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In post 2220, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2215, Creature wrote:My role is kinda complicated

I'm Town Cleric (hence post 1509) and it kinda works like this:

At the cost of 3 xp, I can make a list of players. If someone from outside this list tries to kill someone inside the list, I'll stop the kill

I trained both nights and upgraded D2: apparently I get to know who I protected now
So scum didn’t no kill then. I understand your confidence in both Raya and Alisae town now. If you stopped N2 kill, then that obviously clears Raya and I do believe Alisae upgraded, But a blocked NK confitowns Raya.
You can read, right?
They said that they trained both nights and upgraded.
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 1:02 am

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In post 2220, Raven Branwen wrote:So scum didn’t no kill then.
I didn't protect anyone though
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 1:11 am

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In post 2219, Not Known 15 wrote:Anything else relevant:Forgot to train Night 1
Oh, I guess you were right Alisae.

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