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Post Post #2475 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:26 pm

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also just saying that he had reads on momo, pink, and ginngie tells me nothing because i don't know if you are refering to those as scumreads he had or townreads he had
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Post Post #2476 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:30 pm

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Lol sorry Ali. Those were his scumreads off the top of my head. Here's his list that more or less stayed the same throughout the day.
In post 376, Hectic wrote:Farkset (Farkran + Kerset)
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Post Post #2477 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:33 pm

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alright
I can see it
VOTE: Hectic
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Post Post #2478 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:35 pm

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In post 267, Hectic wrote:
In post 265, springlullaby wrote:Because scum always defend scum?
No, they don't, but why in this case do you think Farkran/Mastina are not scum defending scum!me?
Ame does Hectic make other posts like this as scum?
This reminded me a bit like his question "What makes you think I'm not scum fakeclaiming to be sabotaged?"
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Post Post #2479 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:37 pm

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In post 669, Hectic wrote:
In post 645, Ginngie wrote:Being one who loves any signs of approval, springlullaby increases likelihood that I'll invite them on my crew. As for now tho, I don't wish to expose my crew(under mastina's coat of arms) to what spring might do without my help. So I have pledged the 5 shots left in this rusty revolver (My Iron-Will) to the quest and wherever this may take us.

Also, Pink Ball has to bail me out, it's me crew!
Pink Ball swoops in and expertly transports you to the neighbourhood. The ride is surprisingly smooth and there are no hiccups. Halfway through the journey, you're slighly surprised to discover that [Pine] is seated beside you. Classic Pine.
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You move into your new home, soon discovering your neighbour - [Mastina] - is probably town.

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Post Post #2480 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:38 pm

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In post 1406, Hectic wrote:Ame
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VOTE: momo
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Post Post #2481 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:39 pm

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Ame what do you see when you pair 376 with 1406?
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Post Post #2482 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:42 pm

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Regardless I do think this could probably end up flipping scum.
he did start to defend knightmare a bit harder towards when he was starting to get lynched
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Post Post #2483 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:47 pm

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Either way those reads don’t make me think he was super townie that he was a target but also not someone that scum was afraid of and considered a threat, since I believe sabotaging also roleblocks?
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Post Post #2484 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:49 pm

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In post 2175, Hectic wrote:
In post 2167, Raya36 wrote:I'm a little suspicious of Ali's 'don't care' attitude, although her insistence on a mass claim seems very town. I was convinced she was scum but now I'm not so sure?
Why do you think insisting on a mass claim is a towny thing to do?

Ali is still dodging my questions btw.
In post 2178, Hectic wrote:If scum have a role like Knightmare's, it'll be NAI in the sense it's hard to distinguish whether it's a scum or town role. So mass-claiming would help scum prioritise their kills/ability in the night, while not necessarily giving us much insight.

On the flip side, town could also prioritise using abilities better, and since there is only 1 scum left you may be right.
No one should be at all reluctant to mass claim at this point in the game.
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Post Post #2485 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:52 pm

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Those are posts he wrote and he claimed VT?
Why the fuck does he care lmao, he has nothing to hide.
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Post Post #2486 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 10:56 pm

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In post 595, Hectic wrote:
In post 592, Ame wrote:Hectic can I get your answers to these:
In post 547, Ame wrote:Could you go over these reads?
(I see you actually went over me and NK15 already so you can skip those)
In post 548, Ame wrote:Also Hectic I was confused by this. You scum read her because she is playing differently from her scum game?
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Farkset is town for having very similar reads to me and thoughts that align with my own.
He's also not showing any of the behaviour he does as scum....... yet.

Raya's pretty cool because I like her avatar. Her mech thoughts came across as logical and protown (or what she believes is protown). was nice.

I wasn't using that point as a reason to call springlullaby scum. I just thought it was worth mentioning and something that actually pointed to her being town. 2 years ago though, so eh.
The bolded: possible tmi on Farkset? I’m obviously referring to the “yet” part of his Farkset read.
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Post Post #2487 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 11:02 pm

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In post 1657, Hectic wrote:I forgot to answer this earlier: Yes, I was sabotaged, but shouldn't expand on how I know.
I claimed I was because scum are aware of the fact but town aren't.
Considering you’re the current leadwagon, you had better explain this. Also, why would scum have sabotaged you > Ame?
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Post Post #2488 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 11:17 pm

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In post 1781, Hectic wrote:I'd sub out Knightmare for momo in the 3.

I still think the momo/Alisae slot has the best odds of being scum actually.

VOTE: Alisae
In post 1782, Hectic wrote:Not Knightmare, I mean Creature.
This definitely looks bad. How is Creature anyone’s strongest sr?
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Post Post #2489 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 11:34 pm

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In post 2485, Alisae wrote:Those are posts he wrote and he claimed VT?
Why the fuck does he care lmao, he has nothing to hide.
In post 2186, Hectic wrote:Role Name: Vanilla Townie
Abilities and Cost: None
Actions during each phase: Trained both nights
Anything else relevant: Nein

XP
Starting XP (from your role PM): 1 (note it doesn't give my starting XP in my role PM, they just told me I had 1 in the day 1 start PM)
XP at the end of D1: 1
XP at the end of Quest 1: 1
XP at the end of N1: 1
XP at the end of D2: 1

XP at the end of N2: 2
Current XP: 2

XP needed to upgrade: 3
Have you upgraded (yes/no): Ha
If yes, during which phase: Night 3
The bolded doesn’t make sense in light of FotC flip. Even if sabotage claim was valid, no way should he not have had 2 XP’.

VOTE: Hectic
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Post Post #2490 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 11:37 pm

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In post 2489, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2485, Alisae wrote:Those are posts he wrote and he claimed VT?
Why the fuck does he care lmao, he has nothing to hide.
In post 2186, Hectic wrote:Role Name: Vanilla Townie
Abilities and Cost: None
Actions during each phase: Trained both nights
Anything else relevant: Nein

XP
Starting XP (from your role PM): 1 (note it doesn't give my starting XP in my role PM, they just told me I had 1 in the day 1 start PM)
XP at the end of D1: 1
XP at the end of Quest 1: 1
XP at the end of N1: 1
XP at the end of D2: 1

XP at the end of N2: 2
Current XP: 2

XP needed to upgrade: 3
Have you upgraded (yes/no): Ha
If yes, during which phase: Night 3
The bolded doesn’t make sense in light of FotC flip. Even if sabotage claim was valid, no way should he not have had 2 XP’.

VOTE: Hectic
Sabotage eats all xp - that´s the reason why we don`t do quests.
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Post Post #2491 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2020 11:37 pm

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well, except exp gained that night, which would apply to FotC.
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Post Post #2492 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:03 am

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In post 2417, Ame wrote:
In post 2057, Raya36 wrote:
In post 2053, Alisae wrote:idunno
I'm just make decisions based on what my role is and what I think we should do
I feel like questing is a good idea because I'm keeping people safe from being sabotaged
if you can't trust me then /shrug idunno what to say
This is scum
What was scummy about this?
The last line read as fake not caring
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Post Post #2493 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:05 am

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In post 2420, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 2415, Ame wrote:Hello!

TSE, you stated that scum is probably within NK, Ame, and Raya based on Fark's read list. I don't think it's NK. Do you think it could be Raya?
I think it’s possible yes.
It's not Ame and it's not me. I don't think scum would suggest a massclaim and help with it like Ali did but I could be wrong. I think it's likely NK
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Post Post #2494 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:07 am

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In post 2430, Ame wrote:Alright, let's do it. I'm sorry Raya..

VOTE: Raya
You're voting for the wrong person Ame
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Post Post #2495 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:11 am

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The main reason I wasn't considering Hectic was because of how Fark and him seemed too friendly and he was always their top read. Do you think they would do that as buddies?
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Post Post #2496 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:13 am

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In post 2457, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 2445, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 2440, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 1275, springlullaby wrote:I need 2 xp btw, kthanks.
This was on D2, so why tf are NK and ABR sr that?
Because it means that you need 4 xp. But with needing 4 xp the "I made a mistake I don`t need just 1 xp" is even less credible....
I get XP per each different result from my NA. Spring probably assumed she would get 1 XP from NA or I’m assuming Quest, right?

If my slot were scum, spring would have only had 1 XP on D2 not 2. Why? because I’m assuming she started out with 1. FotC flip, gave everyone 1. She was captured, so no additional XP, which =2. I received 1 XP due to receiving a miscellaneous result from my NA=3, which means 1 more needed to upgrade, so hopefully I either get results tonight or someone - maybe Raya? gifts me.
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Post Post #2497 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:18 am

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In post 2495, Raya36 wrote:The main reason I wasn't considering Hectic was because of how Fark and him seemed too friendly and he was always their top read. Do you think they would do that as buddies?
After reading through the reasoning for him being scum the last couple pages is a lot stronger than this.
Idk what the vote is at now but I'll vote there as well
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Post Post #2498 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:19 am

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@Ame I may or may not Bard you today. Can't tell, or I would be giving you a death sentence. There are other interesting claims I could Bard mechanically speaking
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Post Post #2499 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:21 am

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Ok as long as I didn't miss anything I'm bringing it to L-1

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