was i shading myself? lolIn post 896, Tuxedo Mask wrote:What's with this shade? You're also parroting what others have said, again. Do you scum read my slot? I don't see it in your ISO.In post 886, Freddiethelady wrote:i know im sus, its okay. its easy to pick on low hanging fruit isn't it especially when you subbed into the slot you did? copycat was pretty anxious
the rest of the post read: I didn't think my explanation was a 'sudden abandonment'...it took me days to come to that, i said that, and i didn't vote someone else...where as FF did. he just said 'freddie, youre sus cause you changed your mind'. is that how we role? that points to a lot of scummy people here - im newbie, he isn't. im being thoughtful. he shouldn't be given a get out of jail free card for that one, in my opinion.In post 898, Freddiethelady wrote:here are the comments i made when i messed up (sorry again!)In post 830, Tuxedo Mask wrote:Spoiler: Freddie ISO
So reading Freddie I don't find scum hunting, it is mostly excuses and questions about site stuff. There is very little pushes or curiosity. I also read through their ISO of Newbie 1997 and they feel very different there. For one, they replaced into that game and have nearly as many posts there as they do here. And in that game, they don't seem nearly as lost and unsure, constantly pursuing things and asking questions. This really feels like scum that doesn't know what to say.
VOTE: Freddiethelady
i was trying to sound clever. it was a really stupid comment that was sparked because of a misunderstanding of who was new. i honestly thought there mods would put one or two SE's with a bunch of newbies and i thought she might be one of them...boy was a wrong about the newbie to SE proportions. yes, it was a rocky start! i was trying to take the advice of a form that said (im paraphrasing) 'share your thoughts and don't be afraid of being wrong occasionally. it helps the game if you try to be genuine and explore your thoughts and observations.'
i've been trying to. i think confirmation bias is easily applied here because clearly youre less than impressed. ill get better at the rocket surgery asap!
justify now? as in this moment?
i don't know yet. i do like her. i like her questions and observations and i loved how she ate fried fish during her arguments with him. what say you @lilith? how can i engage you or anyone better?
Hey, look at our join dates. I'm as new around these parts as you are. I'm taking other's thoughts into consideration, it's why I'm asking them to give me a more in-depth explanation into your slot. But I also want to be better and standing with my reads, so I'm not ready to drop this yet. Though the antagonism between us is something I'm not enjoying, so I'd rather that get dropped as we continue discussing.In post 893, Freddiethelady wrote: and no, i definitely don't think finding scum is that easy. you seem to think it is though - youre picking on the new kid saying im clever enough to be scum....while i appreciate the comment, i think lots of people here can see youre just wrong on this one.
1: Thanks for the honesty, the amount of SEs seems like a weird assumption to make. It's public knowledge. Why did it take you so long to say this?In post 898, Freddiethelady wrote: I still don't think this has been answered. It seems like the start of Freddie's Lilith read, which is pretty rocky ground.
here are the comments i made when i messed up (sorry again!)
i was trying to sound clever. it was a really stupid comment that was sparked because of a misunderstanding of who was new. i honestly thought there mods would put one or two SE's with a bunch of newbies and i thought she might be one of them...boy was a wrong about the newbie to SE proportions. yes, it was a rocky start! i was trying to take the advice of a form that said (im paraphrasing) 'share your thoughts and don't be afraid of being wrong occasionally. it helps the game if you try to be genuine and explore your thoughts and observations.'
i've been trying to. i think confirmation bias is easily applied here because clearly youre less than impressed. ill get better at the rocket surgery asap!
justify now? as in this moment?
i don't know yet. i do like her. i like her questions and observations and i loved how she ate fried fish during her arguments with him. what say you @lilith? how can i engage you or anyone better?
No, you're shading me. Being "low hanging fruit" is not a defense of your actions. You're essentially scum reading me for scum reading you. Then you also throw Copy Cat under the bus, when it didn't even seem like you were scum reading them before. Who are you scum reading?In post 900, Freddiethelady wrote:was i shading myself? lolIn post 896, Tuxedo Mask wrote:What's with this shade? You're also parroting what others have said, again. Do you scum read my slot? I don't see it in your ISO.In post 886, Freddiethelady wrote:i know im sus, its okay. its easy to pick on low hanging fruit isn't it especially when you subbed into the slot you did? copycat was pretty anxious
im parroting people i think are right and faster to get to the point than i am.
i see freddie progressing and becoming a better contributor than in 1997. she is doing more to have reads, press people, etc. i think inexperience is clearly showing, but i dont think its scummy.In post 845, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I don't see it, but I didn't live that game. Only going by what they said in their iso, which seemed more probing and present. Can you explain the similarities here?In post 833, votato wrote:freddie's play is pretty similar here. i chalk it up to being new rather than being scum. if shes scum it will become clear later on. theres no need for a day 1 lynch either way, but im thinking its a town slot.
They seem at ease and comfortable, making jokes, having fun, but pushing reads and going after things that grab their interest. They also haven't done anything I find objectionable.
you just hit the preview button. the post will be displayed above, with the editing box below.In post 903, Freddiethelady wrote:I tried that once and I lost the post. Is there a special way to preview the post?
You can't call yourself low hanging fruit. If you do then it indicates you know what you're doing is subpar for town, yet are still doing it anyways for some reason.In post 886, Freddiethelady wrote:i know im sus, its okay. its easy to pick on low hanging fruit isn't it especially when you subbed into the slot you did? copycat was pretty anxious
Huh... Is that what I said though?In post 893, Freddiethelady wrote:he just said 'freddie, youre sus cause you changed your mind'.
Naw, it ain't.In post 584, Formerfish wrote:Freddie came out hot and heavy, then went away and is cold now. He was voting and pushing ironcat, and then he unvoted and is pushing no one.
I think that there is a good chance that Freds scum who is comfortable with letting us rip into each other, because we kinda are.
Also the idea that he didnt want to comment on anything i said because he feared my wrath, even after i had dropped the mask and started playing my day 2 mode on day 1. It shows a lack of wanting to sort or any attempt to even appear to be sorting people.
The only wagon we had really is on Ironcat, and with Freddie moving his vote while not moving it to a constructive place leaves it shelved and gathering dust. Instead of letting Ironcat stew and potentially slip up and do something AI Freddie removes the pressure and does nothing with it instead.
I suggest not misrepresenting my words when they are as eloquently crafted as my posts can be.In post 908, Formerfish wrote:Huh... Is that what I said though?In post 893, Freddiethelady wrote:he just said 'freddie, youre sus cause you changed your mind'.
In post 861, Formerfish wrote:I see it, but i dig it since it reminds me of me, so basically id do me.In post 857, Nauci wrote:I'm not seeing that this game, at least not compared to other votato games.In post 846, wavesarc wrote:I think votato's general vibe has been pretty cheeky
Hey now, just because I've solved the game doesn't mean you should sit back and relaxIn post 879, votato wrote:im very lazy. fine. ugh.In post 878, Formerfish wrote:Uhh... Maybe look back, his iso isn't deep, and why not actually participate in the discussion instead of punting having to read him?In post 876, votato wrote:hmm i havent gone back to re-read the ISO on gibus. but my memory doesnt ping me. If people are really serious about that wagon ill go reread, but I think its not an optimal lynch for today. If gibus is scum i fully anticipate being able to figure it out with a high degree of confidence well before lylo. i think my lynchpool atm is copykat/tuxedo or ironcat/osuka. I could maybe be persuaded about lilith (maybe), or formerfish (probably not today though).
I feel like you're trying to make the question I asked here sound like it was implying that Formerfish did something scummy and that's not what I was doing at all so I don't really like this response at allIn post 871, Freddiethelady wrote:"Do you think that Formerfish would have hopped off of the wagon to attack the person who left the wagon just before him whether it was your or Lilith interchangeably?"
@nauci that was what I was trying to figure out. I explained why i unvoted ironcat and fishy immediately abandoned his suspicions of ironcat to vote me. i really didn't know what to make of that, except that he wasn't committed to his vote, or he and his scumbuddy were just trying to lynch anyone...i suspect a sloppy move like that it would be a newbie thing to do, but fishy is obviously not newbie so it leaves the alternative. am i missing something?
Wait do you really think that scum would bus scum on day 1? I take bussing as like, scum making a serious push to get their scumbuddy lynched, and less voting each other just to distance?In post 884, votato wrote:decides it is time to bus
@Freddie: Did I successfully pick out the parts of this comment that YOU wrote? I was so extremely confused by the formatting screw up that I'm putting this here to potentially help clarify for anybody elseIn post 886, Freddiethelady wrote:In post 830, Tuxedo Mask wrote:In post 116, Freddiethelady wrote:Gibus seems too sloppy to be suspicious but it could be an act.
I’m suspicious that Lilith is a little more experienced then she’s letting on. I’m not sure why she jumped on the gibus wagon either. I’d love to hear an explanation since it could be AI.i was trying to sound clever. it was a really stupid comment that was sparked because of a misunderstanding of who was new. i honestly thought there mods would put one or two SE's with a bunch of newbies and i thought she might be one of them...boy was a wrong about the newbie to SE proportions. yes, it was a rocky start! i was trying to take the advice of a form that said (im paraphrasing) 'share your thoughts and don't be afraid of being wrong occasionally. it helps the game if you try to be genuine and explore your thoughts and observations.'
I still don't think this has been answered. It seems like the start of Freddie's Lilith read, which is pretty rocky ground.
Applying your thought process here, have you uncovered subtle hints in what people are saying? And would agree that applying this logic to your own posts would read them as scummy?In post 104, Freddiethelady wrote:I’m trying to learn the distinction also. its like throwing darts at a wall. I think the simple answer is that scum will try to be as inconspicuous as possible. Paying close attention to what a person says and how they say can Give you subtle hints. I’m not good at this yet but a healthy dose of skepticism will help you start to weed out leading clues vs gibberish. It’s not rocket surgery but it does take some practice.
i've been trying to. i think confirmation bias is easily applied here because clearly youre less than impressed. ill get better at the rocket surgery asap!
This is a weird question. Why not ask him to justify them now? This feels like you have clocked an easy push and are just holding back for an opportune moment.In post 92, Freddiethelady wrote:Gibus you’re like a ping pong ball with your votes. It’s looking sloppy and thoughtless. At some point I’m going to ask you to justify that. Are you prepared to do that?
justify now? as in this moment?
This happened 7 irl days ago, and over HALF the game ago. Yet they have still done nothing with this. Where is the evidence Freddie? Where are the reads?In post 345, Freddiethelady wrote: Lilith hasn’t posted much lately, has she? I wonder why. Ive been suspicious of her without being able to collect my thoughts or any evidence (if in fact there is any) against her yet.
i don't know yet. i do like her. i like her questions and observations and i loved how she ate fried fish during her arguments with him. what say you @lilith? how can i engage you or anyone better?
So reading Freddie I don't find scum hunting, it is mostly excuses and questions about site stuff. There is very little pushes or curiosity. I also read through their ISO of Newbie 1997 and they feel very different there. For one, they replaced into that game and have nearly as many posts there as they do here. And in that game, they don't seem nearly as lost and unsure, constantly pursuing things and asking questions. This really feels like scum that doesn't know what to say.
VOTE: Freddietheladyi know im sus, its okay. its easy to pick on low hanging fruit isn't it especially when you subbed into the slot you did? copycat was pretty anxious
is this a parfait of joke posts orIn post 883, osuka wrote:Shit like this is precisely why you’re confscumIn post 872, Freddiethelady wrote:I bet you're hoping it is.In post 870, Formerfish wrote:Is this close enough to "Why me" for us to fry him?In post 863, Freddiethelady wrote:what makes you say that?In post 851, osuka wrote:freddie is confscum by the way
I think you're misinterpreting (or mischaracterizing) again hereIn post 893, Freddiethelady wrote:I didn't think my explanation was a 'sudden abandonment'...it took me days to come to that, i said that, and i didn't vote someone else...where as FF did. he just said 'freddie, youre sus cause you changed your mind'. is that how we role? that points to a lot of scummy people here - im newbie, he isn't. im being thoughtful. he shouldn't be given a get out of jail free card for that one, in my opinion.In post 877, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I think this is a pretty simplistic view of the game. Town is ignorant and paranoid, shifting focus, and constantly pursuing new leads is part of why I town read FF. Do you really think it is that simple to catch scum? That ScumFF would immediately abandon a lynch he wants because you moved off? Or is it more likely that Town!FF who has a lot less info, and don't actually know Cat's alignment, but only has suspicions would suddenly be MORE suspicious of your sudden abandonment of the wagon?In post 871, Freddiethelady wrote:"Do you think that Formerfish would have hopped off of the wagon to attack the person who left the wagon just before him whether it was your or Lilith interchangeably?"
@nauci that was what I was trying to figure out. I explained why i unvoted ironcat and fishy immediately abandoned his suspicions of ironcat to vote me. i really didn't know what to make of that, except that he wasn't committed to his vote, or he and his scumbuddy were just trying to lynch anyone...i suspect a sloppy move like that it would be a newbie thing to do, but fishy is obviously not newbie so it leaves the alternative. am i missing something?
and no, i definitely don't think finding scum is that easy. you seem to think it is though - youre picking on the new kid saying im clever enough to be scum....while i appreciate the comment, i think lots of people here can see youre just wrong on this one.