did you check his meta?In post 372, word321 wrote:Treckos evolution is quite interesting; from joining the wagon from immediatly quitting from bears observation, questioning the wagon multipe times and joining the wagon again after metadiving himself.In post 351, farside22 wrote:It's really weird how he is fine that someone was wrong about his meta and pushes it aside like it is nothing.
Word: Why is a player scummy for fake claiming mason to you? What advantage does gob have for the claim when you are lynched and the leading wagon day 1?
From what I get, he is a somewhat volatile player, from the development above. It does contrast with his recent fixation on Mantee.
But from the antecedents on both Norwee and my pushes, he seems to have given some values on tonereading on those occasions; Norwee was townread for that reason, while I was both townread and scumread from its derivatives.
On the other hand, the push on Manatee was made on a "solid" lead. There is also the component that the lead was digged out by trecko himself, wich would make it more valid on his eyes (he cant decept himself, can he?), so it may be the reason manatee stucked out, and may justify why he was asking for a case on me. From his other reads, I can only guess he toneread Albert and Leadread Madonna.
So overall, I can understand his game; about the meta, well, again I can only speculate, but it is still plausible, for the sheer difference of ppl btw games. Ppl can make meta mistakes, and I am having a hard time with the sheer amount of players to revise and keep tracks upon, wich might translate in a less fluid style.
And on the gob/bob/farside affair:
From what I see from Bob, and what I saw on that interaction, he has played a pretty standard game, asking ppl actually good questions and all that, and his push on u, while its true it was aggresive, I wouldnt mark directly scummy. I didnt rly liked his tone, but that by itself aint a big of an indicative; it does serve as an antecedent, so he is nullish for now. On ur front, farside, I dnt think ur reaction was the greatest to tell the truth; his questions without good answer EXACTLY bc there is no reason whatsovere to question a claim, no matter wheter its true or fake. There r rly more motivations to do this as scum than as town. But alas, Ive seen too many ppl fall for that before; u being a supposedly good player is what worries me about it.
And on Gob, gob was contingent at the time and needed more attention. Ive already said before, but usually fake claims r made mostly by town (like u pointed out), but can be executed by scum, and he had no antecedents; he is still null all the way. So it can be fairly illustrative to have a grasp on his playstyle.
ninjaed by farside (for once, its relevant).
But I never played in a game with youIn post 356, NDMath wrote:The goal was more so to get thoughts out of midway because I'm more comfortable in my a ability to read him then other players. He went from a slight scumlean to probably town.
It's not like I feel left out or anything.In post 367, votato wrote:you're just upset that there isnt a wagon on you yet arent youIn post 366, Aloratom wrote:If word said that madonna's vote is easily the weakest vote on his wagon, that's scummy in itself because my vote was as weak if not weaker. As such, I'm okay with leaving it on word.In post 362, popopopopopopo wrote:but madonna never says word is scummy, never points to a post of word's or gives a reason why he thinks word is scummy, he just hops on with the reason that "noone is in dire straits". so i think you are misrepresenting madonna's position as being on a "good wagon on a scummy individual", because madonna never makes the case that it's a good wagon. i agree with word that madonna's was easily the weakest vote on his wagon.
I mean, what is this saying? If votes aren't the wood, what is? I don't get it.In post 369, word321 wrote:Their case is simply bad, ur case was nonexistant :^)In post 366, Aloratom wrote:If word said that madonna's vote is easily the weakest vote on his wagon, that's scummy in itself because my vote was as weak if not weaker. As such, I'm okay with leaving it on word.
U came and voted for the votes sake, while they came and voted in an alarmist way. Votes by emselves r not particularly bad D1, and being inactive early on may be bad, but not as scummy as adding wood to the fire.
(actively inactive while we r at it; no one is 24 hr next to the pc, but when they r and they say nothing, itsbadindee.)
On the other hand, the iso on Madonna is bad; 217, 337 and 341 in particular were kind of off with each other on the manatee thing, specifically.
Reasoning, consistency of mantality and ultimate benefits of an action as either alignmentIn post 384, Aloratom wrote:I mean, what is this saying? If votes aren't the wood, what is? I don't get it.
And who is trecko?
trecko = hoctac? Just checking because that is very confusing.
[img]NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'm having a hard time parsing your texts Word321. I think it's the mix of chat language with randomly complex thesaurus words that's messing with my brain.
I don't know about Albert's meta, but backing off the manatee read for the reason stated is Townie.In post 381, Hoctac wrote:woah word wrote stuff about a humble treecko. Alber read is he feels off in every way compared to what i've seen of his town game (sample size of 2)
manatee reads as kind of genuine explaining stuff? so i think if he is scum he feels he's been caught for wrong reasons and the contradiction is probably NAI
It checks out... Alright i'll join your push here.In post 388, farside22 wrote:town game
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The only reason I looked into the games was his questions were a lot of questions that lined up to look like busy work (which is a scum tell in my book) and I wanted to see if that was a thing for him. As you look through his town games you see a player that is sorting through things and making comments in the game. Here just more questions and lot of not saying much about anything going on in the game to sort through. Also not an agro player to going agro looks pretty much fake in my book too.
Lynching me Day 1 is never a good idea. I'm the town's best asset when I get invested into a game.In post 381, Hoctac wrote:woah word wrote stuff about a humble treecko. Alber read is he feels off in every way compared to what i've seen of his town game (sample size of 2)
manatee reads as kind of genuine explaining stuff? so i think if he is scum he feels he's been caught for wrong reasons and the contradiction is probably NAI
In post 388, farside22 wrote:trecko = hoctac? Just checking because that is very confusing.
Actually I was asking if you checked Bob's meta.
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The only reason I looked into the games was his questions were a lot of questions that lined up to look like busy work (which is a scum tell in my book) and I wanted to see if that was a thing for him. As you look through his town games you see a player that is sorting through things and making comments in the game. Here just more questions and lot of not saying much about anything going on in the game to sort through. Also not an agro player to going agro looks pretty much fake in my book too.
In post 289, farside22 wrote:I'm just holding onto this because the more I read this the less sense it makes. It reads like a trap question where no response is a good response.In post 271, bob3141 wrote:So what woudl you ahve done then farside in teh two situations
one where gooble inst fake claiming
two where gooble is genuine
?
Also why did you want to dig as to what teh claim was. Did you think it could be scum fake claiming mason. And if so why do did you think that farside?
In post 298, farside22 wrote:A very endless of bad questions.In post 294, bob3141 wrote:In post 287, farside22 wrote:Town fake claim more often then scum.In post 271, bob3141 wrote:So what woudl you ahve done then farside in teh two situations
one where gooble inst fake claiming
two where gooble is genuine
?
Also why did you want to dig as to what teh claim was. Did you think it could be scum fake claiming mason. And if so why do did you think that farside?
Is there are reason you keep posting with incorrect spelling?
That was why I put a neutral face and said I half thought the claim was fake. Am I having to repeat myself. Again it is the player associated with the claim that gives me pause. You can talk around that and hypothesis to your hearts delight but I already explain why I felt it was more truthful then not.In post 276, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This sounds off like a scumtell. Farside immediately reacts to Gobledygook's sketchy "mason claim" with a naive comment like she fully believes him to have mason claimed and outed his partner early day 1, when neither of Gobble/Word321 were in any imminent danger of being lynched. Farside, instead of staying suspicious about the dubious claim, immediately assumed Gobble did this from a town viewpoint. Which is how a scum that already knows who the mafia/town are would react in that situation.In post 262, farside22 wrote:In post 255, gobbledygook wrote:We're masons.In post 249, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You’re not saying why.In post 246, gobbledygook wrote:I think Word is probably town.
Do I really need a reason why? Are you scumreading him?
He wasn't really in danger to warrant this.
If you want to tell me why you think I'm lying about my reason and give examples of how I typically take claims from player then we could debate this further.
It is by the way NAI for me.
farside you didnt answer my question.
And if you thought gooble was fake claiming why did you want to expose it. If as you say town fake claim more than scum. What do you feel was your town motivation in trying to expose gooble as a faking claiming if you thought he was more likely to be town.
what is your read on gooble?
There called typos. Not incorrect spelling.
I don't respond I'm scum. I do respond I'm scum. Why respond at all that makes you scum. That is how all your questions are reading to me.
How can anyone get a read off a player with 2 post and say yes that is town! would be lying. If I say null then I have to explain once again what I say I typically see from mafia and how players behave.
One trap question after another from you. All why ignoring a large part of the game.
Are you a tunnel type?
