Micro 952 - The Coalition: ItGBSMoD [game over!]

[Klick]

I need an early night tonight. Made it to page 20 at least. Sorry for the spam.

[Wug]

HEAL: klick

koba can you link a scum game or three

[DkKoba]

funny you ask because Klick was in my only scumgame on this site

[DkKoba]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=82562

[DkKoba]

Well I do. I re-read DC's ISO and Pooky's interaction with Koba and now those players feel town to me again. But this leaves me townreading every player in the game except Aldus/Clover. So someone's pulled a fast one on me.

imma be real w you, I have been considering the solve that excludes them too because when you asked me why I townread clover I was like "well shit I don't really atm why is this kid in my coalition"

[DkKoba]

HURT: clover
HURT: alduskkel

[DkKoba]

but now I need to figure out which of deimos/wug/sleeper to trust bc I see the merit of a clover/aldu solve but the beauty of a 4 player exception is that we can exclude 2 possible scumteams.

[DkKoba]

players I'm actually sure about being town: klick(bc votato slot, votato is incredibly easy to read ) and pooky
players that im leaning towards being town: DC(would like to see more contribution from them)
idfk anymore: everyone else

[DkKoba]

I'm no good at d1 solves, it takes flips to help me I think that I'm going to treat the coalition as a test for my top 2 scumteam reads being eliminated rather than trying to exclusively win outright because I'm only going to out-bigbrain myself that way. idk if anyone else sees what I'm saying, but trying to use the coalition for information and setting up a later solve should it be wrong is the best bet here.

[SleeperSoul]

but now I need to figure out which of deimos/wug/sleeper to trust bc I see the merit of a clover/aldu solve but the beauty of a 4 player exception is that we can exclude 2 possible scumteams.

Can you say succinctly why you don't trust deimos yet?

[DkKoba]

not succinctly but their words feel like poison

[SleeperSoul]

That is very succinct but it doesn't clarify it to me. Anything else?

[Clover Ebi]

I don't mind not being in the co it isn't a great concern to me on if it passes or fails because if I'm in it I have more time to just town tell. Although, that should mean you guys get into focus on who you do townread. It's probably way too risky to put me in the co since people don't seem to townread me and if it fails I'm on the chopping block. With that being said
HURT: all
Good luck!

[Clover Ebi]

I also don't think you guys should be looking for scum and more people who are town like Klick and Kobba are 2 people I would bet the game on being town at this point. The other 3 you can make an argument for and I'd love to hear peoples reasoning for townreading slots that aren't them. I should probably transfer to a who do I think is scum mindset.

[Clover Ebi]

I think Pooky/Don are the slots I need to reread and really look at first.

[Alduskkel]

You seem a lot like scum!you from pyp aldus

How so?

I am now noticing my main issue with this game where I thought I'd be really strong at it. Hm, noted.

What issue is that?

I liked Deimos's posts on pages 32-34 enough to solidify my townread on him.
HEAL: Deimos27

I also kinda liked wug's posts but I might be biased since she's townreading me.

i think a certain pair of people have been engaging in scum theater btw ! While its probably a dumb theory it matches up with the read i made last night on the table

What pair?

Ok, I saw a later post clarifying you meant Sleeper/Deimos. What makes it look like scum theater to you? They both look pretty town to me.

Spoiler:

it be like that sometimes

I can't really.... If I went into specifics it wouldn't be genuine because I'd be inventing specific reasons for just a general soul read. Your entire playstyle comes off as oblivious, stubborn town.

I'm unsure of koba's alignment but I am sure that they are stubborn and oblivious.

?

I'm no good at d1 solves, it takes flips to help me I think that I'm going to treat the coalition as a test for my top 2 scumteam reads being eliminated rather than trying to exclusively win outright because I'm only going to out-bigbrain myself that way. idk if anyone else sees what I'm saying, but trying to use the coalition for information and setting up a later solve should it be wrong is the best bet here.

What do you mean by this? It sounds like you're willing to accept a coalition that will probably fail, so that you can get long-term info out of it, but that doesn't sound like a good strategy.

[Klick]

To be clear, if nothing changes by the end of my catchup, Clover is in my town pile. I feel like a few people are talking themselves out of a lay-up read because they're dry on reasons. If Clover and Aldus are indeed town, ignoring them due to low evidence is shaving our chances of a D1 solve.

[Datisi]

Vote count 1.24

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-07-07 13:00:00)

coalition

PookyTheMagicalBear [5]:

Deimos27, SleeperSoul, DonCorleone, PookyTheMagicalBear, Klick

Alduskkel [5]:

Alduskkel, Klick, SleeperSoul, DkKoba, Deimos27

DkKoba [4]:

Wug, Klick, DkKoba, PookyTheMagicalBear

Deimos27 [4]:

Deimos27, Klick, Wug, SleeperSoul

Klick [4]:

Klick, SleeperSoul, Clover Ebi, DonCorleone

SleeperSoul [3]:

Deimos27, SleeperSoul, Klick

Wug [3]:

Wug, Deimos27, Klick

DonCorleone [0]:

Clover Ebi [0]:

lynch

SleeperSoul (1):

Deimos27

Wug (1):

DonCorleone

PookyTheMagicalBear (1):

Alduskkel

not voting (6):

Klick, Clover Ebi, SleeperSoul, PookyTheMagicalBear, Wug, DkKoba

flavour

mod notes

• Play nice.

[Klick]

Something to consider: I don't quite think Clover has the moxie to use 'remove myself from contention' as a scum strat here and think it will work.

[Datisi]

Prodding PookyTheMagicalBear.

[Datisi]

Prodding DonCorleone.

[Klick]

I'm bored of this already

you're using the 1000 questions defense in which you ignore the attack and just distract with a bunch of random questions until the thread of the argument is lost and the post count is too long for anyone else to follow.

I'm going to stop engaging with you as it's obviously pointless at this time.

DK's questions were pretty good and Pooky's case wasn't very good at all

[Klick]

I feel like Pooky/DK could potentially be scum theatre? Not that it's particularly likely but like I'm not townreading either of them yet and I'm not convinced they're unaligned.

[Klick]

Why are you "pretty sure" he is town

he said i'd be shit at scum and he's probably right

at least i am in irl avalon

never played scum in forum this is my third game

This isn't a valid towntell. If this is still your reason for townreading Pooky then I'd advise you to reconsider.

[Klick]

I'm feeling rather good about all of Sleeper/DC/Clover still. I need to find one more.