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[Andresvmb]

I really don’t agree with 922 at all from you NPOM. And you never responded to my 832.

[Andresvmb]

@Datisi I don’t even know what we’re talking about. I saw I think it was Testa I can check again refuse to claim. That’s it on claims as far as I know.

[NoPowerOverMe]

You have a right to disagree. 832 was 150 posts ago. I'm not always going to be awake and able to respond to you. I would have to reread that part of the day.

[Datisi]

andres, i'm talking about janko's ping on why npom might be scum

like you're saying janko is town because your reads are aligning, but do you think his reasoning for those reads is actually good?

[VP Baltar]

I don't like that VP just gave up on the snow wagon, and janko is town reading him for it.

I gave up on the snow wagon?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I don't like that VP just gave up on the snow wagon, and janko is town reading him for it.

I gave up on the snow wagon?

Yep, when people started unvoting you had nothing to say on it. You were very anti-snow during the wagon, and now you seem ambivelent.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I really don’t agree with 922 at all from you NPOM. And you never responded to my 832.

It seems like your basic beef with me is that my reads on people are changing as the game progresses, which is, you know, what generally happens with new content.

[Andresvmb]

@Datisi I think most of what I’ve read from jankofan seemed pretty good. Is that specific post the only reason they are SR’ing NPOM? I would have to go back and check I don’t really know.

[Billy Pilgrim]

> sees a scumread who has been lurking the whole time, without addressing literally anything asked his way, jump out of the shadows to put a very fast wagon to L-1 then disappear again
> ur resoning is nOt tOwN )))))))))

pedit: lmfao yeah it has nothing to do with what testa said, i saw my scumread vote there and i'm sure as fuck pumping the breaks on that

"bussing exists" yeah sure and if janko/testa are scum together that is the literally shittiest bus in all of existence and i would sooner bet on them being s/t

i asked him something, it's somewhere in my iso, also like no comment to literally anything that's going on

Also I dont think Janko was on Snow. So thats a meaningful data point and difference.

[Andresvmb]

And @NPOM arguing that my biggest issue with them is that their reads “progress” as the game moves along is... not particularly accurate.

[NoPowerOverMe]

npom could be scum. "missing" snows claim and asking her what it was instead of just scrolling back and finding it is giving me scum pings. seems to be "active lurking".

anyway i'm sheeping koba's list and would vote to hang in {testa, ico, npom}

Very weak reasoning and flat out untrue.

[Datisi]

npom could be scum. "missing" snows claim and asking her what it was instead of just scrolling back and finding it is giving me scum pings. seems to be "active lurking".

@datisi Ok I guess? still feels like a reach but w/e i cant really say im familiar enough with the game that i know whos sring npom, but its moot anyway because the read isn't faked at all. npom dedicates three posts to talking about how he missed the claim asking snow what it was. my intuitions about time management say that a cursory look at the last page would've been a lot quicker than writing three posts but i could see scum trying to emulate that sense of being idle and casual about the situation.

@andres this is what he wrote about why he scumreads npom

and to me it just seems like the most made up reasoning ever? do you think this is genuine?

[Billy Pilgrim]

Literally everyone still on the snowblaze wagon is pretty solid town reads from most people in the game. A magical testarossa counter wagon emerges from nowhere to stop this elim?

Naw, dawg.

I need to spend some time today to closely dissect what happened, but now I'm more confident in testarossa town. Snowblaze is scum.

You think the scum play when you're being wagoned is to townread your counterwagon then try and start a counter-counterwagon on someone that left you for your counterwagon? I mean I'm missing the scum motivation in that play specifically.

[Andresvmb]

@NPOM what changed after your 922 that you decided to move away from Testarossa who is on the brink here? As in why would you decide to vote for someone who is less of a SR and who is less likely to flip currently? I also can’t figure that out.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Not noting VP because a lot of people seem to be TRing him for some reason. I initially liked the reasoning on Testarossa but liking DKK pushing it less since they OMGUSing my read list. I think Janko is more likely to flip than VP. I am willing to compromise on Testarossa but DKK is not giving me good vibes at the moment and DKK started the wagon.

[DkKoba]

Lol what the fuck are u on about

[NoPowerOverMe]

NoPowerOverMe
Datisi
Iconeum

Snowblaze
Billy Pilgrim
Alduskkel

GeorgeBailey
Andresvmb
DKKoba

jankofan
hellbrooks

Testaroosa
VP Baltar

lol im walking away and getting shit done bc this situation is just annoying rn bc no one wants to listen to the very blatant case.

idk whos the 3rd scum 100% but im fairly sure that ico/testa are 2/3 scum.

i'd say it's 50/50 in NPOM / Baltar for last

everyone else im fairly sure is town although the lack of content from GB is unfortunate but also not AI bc he even slanked once as town .

[DkKoba]

literally what ur saying is worst case is that im hard bussing my partner as scum so u still hang scum

[Andresvmb]

Oh and I did see that Snowblaze claimed VT okay I forgot about that for a minute.

I mean, fixating on that relatively minor detail is fine in my mind. I will agree that it’s a flimsy case on janko’s part. But we agree on way too many things for me to hyper focus on that one flimsy case.

[Billy Pilgrim]

vp was reacting to stuff similar to how i would in their catch up post, and I'm seeing sincere motivation and perception behind andres' posting

npom could be scum. "missing" snows claim and asking her what it was instead of just scrolling back and finding it is giving me scum pings. seems to be "active lurking".

anyway i'm sheeping koba's list and would vote to hang in {testa, ico, npom}

Please explain the second paragraph.

[Andresvmb]

DkKoba I’m like almost sure NPOM is Scum.

[Andresvmb]

And Testa is a decent flip as far as I can tell.

[Datisi]

but that's like... his only reasoning so far why npom is scum... would you genuinely not be suspicious if you saw someone say that a townread of yours is pinging them scummy because of something like that?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Wow bad reasoining is the order of the day. Normally I have more in my townpool than I do in this game D1 by this point.

[Andresvmb]

Yeah if we disagreed fundamentally on our view of the game and they put out a flimsy case on someone I was TR sure. But we very largely agree so I’m not too worried about it right now.