In post 406, shellyc wrote:IMO Redados actually looks more town to me now. their reaction to my self-vote seemed town; scum would latch onto that and quickhammer me.
Would you mind fleshing out this thought a little more? Your vote put yourself at E-2, and I already had a vote on you. If I were scum, the other scum vote could not have limmed you. So how is quickhammering relevant?
In post 410, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I'm putting this out there: we have 48 hours and some change. If we can get a Shelly elimination right now, let's dial back and start re-reading the past little bit of play and putting pressure where it needs to be for Day 2.
Caveat: UNLESS every active player can agree on a different target from Shelly when the time window is closer, Shelly MUST be the elimination.
That means we don't try and go for targets we begin to think are better. That sort of last minute cat herding is a terrible, terrible plan and will end in no-elimination.
Can we agree on that? Can we scum hunt while the clock runs down some, or do we need to start pushing for either Shelly or Rocknil as policy eliminations (since they're equal in "will be voted for gladly" numbers right now)?
I, for one, will vote Shelly to end the day with an actual elimination. I will vote just about anyone to do that, really, but I'm laying it down in writing: I will vote that wagon for an elimination. Unless there is overwhelming consensus to vote for someone else instead of Shelly just before the deadline, I will stand by that.
In the last game I played, this wasn't really an issue. In the final 48 hours or so, we got three separate people to E-1 before limming. Is this not common? We learned a lot from those interactions.
In post 414, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:I only finished going through Redados ISO and how long it took me to do so is reminding me why I usually don't go through ISOs to ascertain alignment. I have found that typically I only remember the last thing made me conclude someone is a certain alignment instead of every little detail before that that brought me to the conclusion unless I take notes while reading through, which I didn't and on second thought should have.
ISOs are pretty time consuming, and it's hard for me to
determine alignment
based on an ISO. How I used them last game was more to get reads and remind myself of certain events that happen. It's great that you're coming at it from an analytical perspective, but I'm not sure if that's efficient or optimal.
In post 418, LavarManos wrote:I think shellyc is behaving rather townily because of her utter willingness to be the hang. However, some of you have said that she played similarly in your last game with her? That doesn't make me feel as good.
Right now, I have Italiano, MUSH, and shelly(tentatively) as town. I have Redados, Frogster, and Fredrick in my null pile. I am fine with hanging either MagikHorse or rocknil. MagikHorse because I think he has been mostly unoffensive in his posts and I noticed he tends to react to other people instead of bringing up new things. I think scum would take this route more often than not because it's quite safe and it's easy to get townread for it. rocknil because he isn't doing much.
I don't think less of you for not scumreading Shelly, because I do feel that it's a meta read to some extent. However, I really would say that not wanting to be hanged is NAI (Not Alignment Indicative). No one wants to be hang, no matter their alignment. If you're town, it hurts yourself to be mislimmed. If you're scum it hurts yourself to lose a member of scum.
As an aside, I suggest that you create an avatar! It makes it easy for me to follow your posts.
