Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[Datisi]

page 200?

[skitter30]

Why do you find a TW/SS scum-team even less likely? I don't think you've ever articulated that and I really don't get what in their play makes them so "townie" to you.

the fact that tw mechanically is very likely to be town and the fact that you're a smart dude but you're pushing for this anyways

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky my read on u is tghat u care about scum like 10x as much as u care about town, and that you're really passionate/driven and will do whatevr u can to win a scumgame, whereas u don't care as much about town
and that in coalition u didn't care about getting hammered cuz aldu was set up to win if u get voted out

i kinda think it's time. i'll address whatever's on this page cuz i'm bad at not answreing things but i really odn't think i'm changing my mind at this point

I can show you a town game in which I really tryharded really recently if you think that would change your mind.

I also did not try-hard at all in that scumgame where I replaced into Koba's slot

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What I try-hard has to do with where my focus is - not on what my role is. If I don't get into a game, I am just not going to try-hard it.

[Datisi]

sorry i had to get the pagetop. anway i've been rereading around page 126 where mod confirmed pooky's claim was fake and idk raven's reaction seemed a biiiiit... tmi? in like "i still want to execute dsjstr, but let's see what pooky claims now" and like idk?

pooky claims (4673) that he first asked to get executed in 3435 and that it was risky but shorty after the vig/bomb fiasco but before that post the tides were pretty turned around against dsjstr...

theoretically i could mabye see an s_s/raven team deciding "oh shit pooky's gonna be a great misexecture tomorrow let's get dsjstr today and pooky in lylo" but like... is this s_s/raven??? i don't think it is?????

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes that's my point - in coalition I didn't really care because the hammer on me isn't the end of the game like it is here.

[skitter30]

town game in which I really tryharded really recently if you think that would change your mind.

plz

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sorry i had to get the pagetop. anway i've been rereading around page 126 where mod confirmed pooky's claim was fake and idk raven's reaction seemed a biiiiit... tmi? in like "i still want to execute dsjstr, but let's see what pooky claims now" and like idk?

pooky claims (4673) that he first asked to get executed in 3435 and that it was risky but shorty after the vig/bomb fiasco but before that post the tides were pretty turned around against dsjstr...

theoretically i could mabye see an s_s/raven team deciding "oh shit pooky's gonna be a great misexecture tomorrow let's get dsjstr today and pooky in lylo" but like... is this s_s/raven??? i don't think it is?????

do you really think raven is lying today about how she feels super ignored trying to save me and nobody wants to listen to her? I really don't think she's lying here - there's just no reason for scum-raven to make this play unless she thinks there's a real chance I survive today or if she thinks she needs to act like a plausible partner to Pooky in order to secure the Pooky-lynch. But I just really don't see her playing it that way.

[skitter30]

sorry i had to get the pagetop. anway i've been rereading around page 126 where mod confirmed pooky's claim was fake and idk raven's reaction seemed a biiiiit... tmi? in like "i still want to execute dsjstr, but let's see what pooky claims now" and like idk?

pooky claims (4673) that he first asked to get executed in 3435 and that it was risky but shorty after the vig/bomb fiasco but before that post the tides were pretty turned around against dsjstr...

theoretically i could mabye see an s_s/raven team deciding "oh shit pooky's gonna be a great misexecture tomorrow let's get dsjstr today and pooky in lylo" but like... is this s_s/raven??? i don't think it is?????

don't think raven in ss/raven decides to align with pooky to push ss in lylo
and agree with u on raven around the bomb/vig thing, i quoted that a few pages back

[Datisi]

sorry skitt i may have missed it or skipped over it idk ughhhhhh my head hurts

[skitter30]

Notice how raven is pushing dsjstr instead of confscum

man i really should just listen to myself

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

town game in which I really tryharded really recently if you think that would change your mind.

plz

ok I msged the fogey section mod to give you access but this is the link:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=82687

[Datisi]

okay yeah you did i just didn't connect what the quotes meant at the time. i'm bad lmao.

[skitter30]

oh didn't realize it was that game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sorry i had to get the pagetop. anway i've been rereading around page 126 where mod confirmed pooky's claim was fake and idk raven's reaction seemed a biiiiit... tmi? in like "i still want to execute dsjstr, but let's see what pooky claims now" and like idk?

pooky claims (4673) that he first asked to get executed in 3435 and that it was risky but shorty after the vig/bomb fiasco but before that post the tides were pretty turned around against dsjstr...

theoretically i could mabye see an s_s/raven team deciding "oh shit pooky's gonna be a great misexecture tomorrow let's get dsjstr today and pooky in lylo" but like... is this s_s/raven??? i don't think it is?????

don't think raven in ss/raven decides to align with pooky to push ss in lylo
and agree with u on raven around the bomb/vig thing, i quoted that a few pages back

yes but there is just no way raven as my partner decides to not bus me there instead of pushing dsj instead - it's just unfathomably bad play if she and I were scum together.

[skitter30]

i mean scum don't always play optimally

[skitter30]

random aside: i feel like as my scumgame's gotten better my feel for playing town has gotten worse

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh didn't realize it was that game

I played a few games in the fogey section before venturing out into the main site - I was invited by some friends from back in the day to play mafia with them when the pandemic first started - but the game where I try-harded and the game where I got lynched in lylo are different games.

I have the tendency to really be able to focus on one thing at a time and I won't put nearly as much effort into multiple games. If you look at my scumplay between coalition and nomination mafia, they are completely different because I only cared about the coalition game - I don't really choose what to care about - some games just feel more important to me. This really is not alignment indicative in any way. I think my commitment to this game far exceeds what I put into coalition and it's not because I'm scum here - it's because I'm town and my lynch is going to end the game.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean scum don't always play optimally

yes I know scum do not always play optimally - but the EV difference between bussing and pushing someone else when your scumpartner gets called out by the moderator for fake-claiming is just so so so big that I think almost any scum player who is not a complete noob would definitely pick the bus route.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the fact that tw mechanically is very likely to be town and the fact that you're a smart dude but you're pushing for this anyways

I don't understand how TW mechanically is very likely to be town.

I haven't played much of the modern meta so I can't claim to be some kind of mech genius but could you please explain again why mechanically speaking TW must be town here?

[skitter30]

idk i'm outsourcing the mech read to a combo of tw/dats/ss cuz i'm not good at it and all 3 fo them are saying that and they can't all be scum

[skitter30]

dats what are u thinking rn?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can talk thru the mech with datisi then? I know TW/SS are the scum pushing the lie here.

[Datisi]

dats what are u thinking rn?

i'm thinking about going for a walk and trying to forget about this game for a little while longer, why?

[skitter30]

idk i'm kinda ready so just wanted to know if u wanted to talk abt anything
enjoy ur walk, don't think about this for a bit