Open 789: Two-Fold 2d3 [Game Over]

[Almost50]

I see both Hiraki and teacher have reached a decision. Should I hammer now?

[dramonic]

DO EET *w*

[Almost50]

Aight

VOTE: chemist

[Marashu]

Decent chance this is right, but if it's wrong, could we look at chkflip/PP tomorrow?

[TemporalLich]

VC 3.3

Chemist1422 (5) - dramonic, teacher, PenguinPower, Hiraki, Almost50

[EXILED!]

Not voting: Marashu, Chemist1422, chkflip

With 8 alive it takes 5 to exile.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2020-09-09 10:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

[TemporalLich]

Chemist1422 has been exiled! They were a

Vanilla Townie

Night 3 has begun! Please send in your night actions within (expired on 2020-09-03 08:45:00). If you want a Fast Night, all alive players need to submit Fast Night requests via PM to me.

[TemporalLich]

teacher has died during the night. He was a

Town Auditor

Day 4 has begun!

VC 4.0

Not voting: Marashu, PenguinPower, Hiraki, Almost50, dramonic, chkflip

With 6 alive it takes 4 to exile.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2020-09-13 10:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

[dramonic]

Cmon, ya coulda shot marashu :/
Now I'm gonna feel a little bit bad.

[dramonic]

Anyways, chkflip today ja?

[Almost50]

Anyways, chkflip today ja?

Does it matter much? I mean, it' either him or PP for me. On a

personal level

I like both players and hate to go hard on either (and hate more to be wrong on them, which is obviously a 50-50 shot now). However, emotions aside I can't see past them two.

I actually did ISO the slot vs the Hake slot (Jake was the 2nd player on the slot, and chk was the 3rd on his own slot). I could find any direct conversation going on between ANY of them. I may have missed something (I skimmed) but it looked to me like when one party was present the other wasn't even posting at all.

So, yeah.. I guess chkflip is the way to go. Gamma really didn't impress after a promising entrance. He just didn't live up to it.

[dramonic]

Gamma's entrance was basically pulling a shaky case out of his ass to vote me.
I'm legit surprised Chemist flipped town, but I wont speak ill of the dead

[Almost50]

I meant his very first post. This one:

Sup folks

I noticed the playerlist for this game was looking fantastic and I also took an interest in the setup since I played the first-ever 2fold matrix6 so I'm here now

no bulli pls

There's a certain tone of... enjoyment?? Excitement? I dunno.. it just felt cheerful.

[dramonic]

I suppose

[chkflip]

This is dumb. Have fun with that.

[chkflip]

Just so you're all aware, it's 5:1 and the lonely little mafiate only needs two more mislynches. Convenient that two are lined up.

[Almost50]

That's .. not actually helping. If it's not you then you need to help us see why, and/or find said last mafioso

[Almost50]

Wait! Why do you say "two mislynches"? You TR PP too? If so, please explain.

[chkflip]

Penguin always treats me like I'm a fucking moron when he's town.

Y'all still haven't explained how dramonic, when he claimed doctor, knew we were in a two goon setup. A flipped goon isn't indicative of that. Just like hard bussing your partner isn't indicative of being town.

[Almost50]

No one said he knew that. We (myself and teacher) said it was bad play. STILL, it could not have come from Scum because if we were not in column C he would have been CC'd and eliminating both would have lost him the game. Now if he was the remaining Goon then he knew he wouldn't be CC'd, but then he would NOT have retracted the claim.

[chkflip]

They know I'm lying chk, they know they're a goon and therefore there is no PR besides the dead cop.
It's not a risky CC

This implies he knew the setup.

[chkflip]

It even implies he knew that when he claimed.

He couldn't have, no?

[Hiraki]

if it helps chkflip, im pretty set on a A50->dram

i knew i should've held onto my gut there, i am so convinced dunn investigated chemist now

[Marashu]

Right now I think I'm more partial to PP over chkflip - I wasn't a fan of gypyx, and I feel like the interaction between Jake and PP earlier vs how PP tries to maneuver away later is suspicious. But I'm also really having second thoughts about dram (which is annoying because dram was my top TR D1). The stunt to get rid of wifom? It really didn't.

No one said he knew that. We (myself and teacher) said it was bad play. STILL, it could not have come from Scum because if we were not in column C he would have been CC'd and eliminating both would have lost him the game. Now if he was the remaining Goon then he knew he wouldn't be CC'd, but then he would NOT have retracted the claim.

I don't agree with your conclusion that he wouldn't retract the statement. He did it after speculation started of being in Column C and it being a fakeclaim, so after a couple misexiles, I think it would have been tested, especially when I take the bullet instead of dram. With the retraction, it removes the target and justifies why dram would be alive later. And, like, right now the other mafia doesn't really need to do anything with the WIFOM that dram introduced. I can see how the gambit comes from town, but I also see how it comes from scum, and that's the problem. And I feel like the WIFOM will remain until we can resolve that slot, unless we actually catch the last scum.

[dramonic]

They know I'm lying chk, they know they're a goon and therefore there is no PR besides the dead cop.
It's not a risky CC

This implies he knew the setup.

At that point I did. At that point everyone did.

[chkflip]

exhibit A)
If I were scum, nobody questionned my claim. I can shoot you tonight and win because we autolynch chemist, almost and hiraki.

Why has the list changed?