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Casey · Post Post #975 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:50 am

Italiano can you explain your blatant defense of Fred in #864?

Fred can you explain why your posts to Italiano in #863 look like they're trying to push Italiano off your back?

Lavar can you do something please? We have 3 days left and we really need you to focus.

Casey · Post Post #976 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:04 am

Fred: "I think the scumteam is ItalianoVD and LavarManos."

Lavar: "I will reconsider my reads, but the scumteam might just be Casey and Fred?" "I think Casey has been townie, but it is LYLO. A member of the mafia could be townie, so that alone does not prevent my vote from going there."

Italiano: "My scumteam is Lavar and Casey, however, I’ve been wrong on both days so far (shelly / rocknil) so I’m not real confident about placing a vote down unplanned or without logic."

Casey: Currently feeling Fred/Italiano. It may be Lavar's lack of action that has me focused there. I'm giving Lavar a pass for being a newbie.

Also this exchange:

In post 930, Frogsterking wrote:Can you give me any insight into how you approach the game as scum???

In post 932, LavarManos wrote:I think I would just try to active lurk and throw in the occasional thought or two. Nothing much.

Would a newbie maf really say how they play as maf while doing the exact same thing they say they're doing?

Fredrick A Campbell · Post Post #977 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:04 am

In post 975, Casey wrote:Italiano can you explain your blatant defense of Fred in #864?

Fred can you explain why your posts to Italiano in #863 look like they're trying to push Italiano off your back?

Lavar can you do something please? We have 3 days left and we really need you to focus.

Maybe you have to explain why you think so as I was not trying to do so when I made those posts. Instead, I just answered ItalianoVD's questions.

Casey · Post Post #978 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:11 am

Fred & Italiano how do you reconcile the quote above being from maf?? Coached by his partner to active lurk and say self-incriminating things??

Casey · Post Post #979 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:12 am

In post 977, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 975, Casey wrote:Italiano can you explain your blatant defense of Fred in #864?

Fred can you explain why your posts to Italiano in #863 look like they're trying to push Italiano off your back?

Lavar can you do something please? We have 3 days left and we really need you to focus.
Maybe you have to explain why you think so as I was not trying to do so when I made those posts. Instead, I just answered ItalianoVD's questions.

Yes but why is that

all

you did? No follow-ups, no addressing, no questioning his actions.

Casey · Post Post #980 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:13 am

In post 978, Casey wrote:Fred & Italiano how do you reconcile the quote above being from maf?? Coached by his partner to active lurk and say self-incriminating things??

By quote above I mean #976.

Frogsterking · Post Post #981 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:13 am

In post 978, Casey wrote:Fred & Italiano how do you reconcile the quote above being from maf?? Coached by his partner to active lurk and say self-incriminating things??

lol

Frogsterking · Post Post #982 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:33 am

I'm still holding off on the results of the VCA I did until A wild Charmeleon appears!

Fredrick A Campbell · Post Post #983 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:42 am

In post 979, Casey wrote:
In post 977, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 975, Casey wrote:Italiano can you explain your blatant defense of Fred in #864?

Fred can you explain why your posts to Italiano in #863 look like they're trying to push Italiano off your back?

Lavar can you do something please? We have 3 days left and we really need you to focus.
Maybe you have to explain why you think so as I was not trying to do so when I made those posts. Instead, I just answered ItalianoVD's questions.
Yes but why is that
all
you did? No follow-ups, no addressing, no questioning his actions.

Because I did not see any necessity in doing so.

Fredrick A Campbell · Post Post #984 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:44 am

In post 978, Casey wrote:Fred & Italiano how do you reconcile the quote above being from maf?? Coached by his partner to active lurk and say self-incriminating things??

He was potentially not coached when he posted that.

LavarManos · Post Post #985 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:01 am

Sorry, I do not think I have any new ideas.
Frogster, feel free to post your VCA whenever. Time is running out.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #986 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:43 am

In post 970, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:In post 951, ItalianoVD wrote the following:

"Frederick already stated his and I don’t blame him for thinking that even though it’s only halfway true."

How would you know if LavarManos was scum though?

I don’t know for sure, but it’s the same thing: given the scenario, that’s how I was responding; like it was from your point of view.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #987 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:44 am

In post 973, Casey wrote:
In post 965, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 952, Casey wrote:Awake again!
In post 895, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 885, Casey wrote:Fred are you going to continue to question the unCC'd power role or are you going to do something useful?
Are you?
No. Is there some reason I should be?
Just pointing out how you are pushing Frederick to do something you are not doing yourself.
I am literally not doing that.

You asked him if he’s going to do something useful. I asked you if you going to do something useful. I wasn’t saying are you going to stop questioning the power role.

In post 974, Casey wrote:I just looked back at my ISO and yeah I have zero clue what you're talking about.

I wasn’t talking overall, I was only talking about today.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #988 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:51 am

In post 975, Casey wrote:Italiano can you explain your blatant defense of Fred in #864?

Fred can you explain why your posts to Italiano in #863 look like they're trying to push Italiano off your back?

Lavar can you do something please? We have 3 days left and we really need you to focus.

Yeah, I thought he was town and I didn’t see why he was being universally scumread, so I was really trying to understand what others were seeing because I didn’t see it. If I townread someone I will try to protect them as best I can.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #989 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:57 am

In post 980, Casey wrote:
In post 978, Casey wrote:Fred & Italiano how do you reconcile the quote above being from maf?? Coached by his partner to active lurk and say self-incriminating things??
By quote above I mean #976.

What are you asking? If Lavar was coached to say what he said? That doesn’t make sense.

Frogsterking · Post Post #990 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:36 am

In post 985, LavarManos wrote:Sorry, I do not think I have any new ideas.
Frogster, feel free to post your VCA whenever. Time is running out.

Yikes.

Frogsterking · Post Post #991 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:39 am

Italiano do you have any thoughts on Lavar's lurking? And playing exactly the way he said he would as scum?

Frogsterking · Post Post #992 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:40 am

In post 976, Casey wrote:Fred: "I think the scumteam is ItalianoVD and LavarManos."

Lavar: "I will reconsider my reads, but the scumteam might just be Casey and Fred?" "I think Casey has been townie, but it is LYLO. A member of the mafia could be townie, so that alone does not prevent my vote from going there."

Italiano: "My scumteam is Lavar and Casey, however, I’ve been wrong on both days so far (shelly / rocknil) so I’m not real confident about placing a vote down unplanned or without logic."

Casey: Currently feeling Fred/Italiano. It may be Lavar's lack of action that has me focused there. I'm giving Lavar a pass for being a newbie.

Also this exchange:

In post 930, Frogsterking wrote:Can you give me any insight into how you approach the game as scum???

In post 932, LavarManos wrote:I think I would just try to active lurk and throw in the occasional thought or two. Nothing much.

Would a newbie maf really say how they play as maf while doing the exact same thing they say they're doing?

I'm wondering about this last bit as well.

Casey · Post Post #993 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:13 pm

In post 983, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 979, Casey wrote:
In post 977, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 975, Casey wrote:Italiano can you explain your blatant defense of Fred in #864?

Fred can you explain why your posts to Italiano in #863 look like they're trying to push Italiano off your back?

Lavar can you do something please? We have 3 days left and we really need you to focus.
Maybe you have to explain why you think so as I was not trying to do so when I made those posts. Instead, I just answered ItalianoVD's questions.
Yes but why is that
all
you did? No follow-ups, no addressing, no questioning his actions.
Because I did not see any necessity in doing so.

Not even now?

In post 984, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 978, Casey wrote:Fred & Italiano how do you reconcile the quote above being from maf?? Coached by his partner to active lurk and say self-incriminating things??
He was potentially not coached when he posted that.

That was the worst non-answer I've heard all game.

In post 987, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 973, Casey wrote:
In post 965, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 952, Casey wrote:Awake again!
In post 895, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 885, Casey wrote:Fred are you going to continue to question the unCC'd power role or are you going to do something useful?
Are you?
No. Is there some reason I should be?
Just pointing out how you are pushing Frederick to do something you are not doing yourself.
I am literally not doing that.
You asked him if he’s going to do something useful. I asked you if you going to do something useful. I wasn’t saying are you going to stop questioning the power role.

In post 974, Casey wrote:I just looked back at my ISO and yeah I have zero clue what you're talking about.
I wasn’t talking overall, I was only talking about today.

Are you still under the opinion that I'm being "useless"?

In post 988, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 975, Casey wrote:Italiano can you explain your blatant defense of Fred in #864?

Fred can you explain why your posts to Italiano in #863 look like they're trying to push Italiano off your back?

Lavar can you do something please? We have 3 days left and we really need you to focus.
Yeah, I thought he was town and I didn’t see why he was being universally scumread, so I was really trying to understand what others were seeing because I didn’t see it. If I townread someone I will try to protect them as best I can.

You said he was a "light townread."

In post 989, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 980, Casey wrote:
In post 978, Casey wrote:Fred & Italiano how do you reconcile the quote above being from maf?? Coached by his partner to active lurk and say self-incriminating things??
By quote above I mean #976.
What are you asking? If Lavar was coached to say what he said? That doesn’t make sense.

Explain how that quote comes from a maf.

Casey · Post Post #994 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:15 pm

It's genuinely impressive that Lavar is my biggest townread, and he's

emulating his mafgame.

LavarManos · Post Post #995 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:17 pm

Some might even find it a little suspicious that you are townreading me so much . . .

Frogsterking · Post Post #996 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:56 pm

So my real reports were that Fred visited no one N1 and Italiano visited Redados N2

Frogsterking · Post Post #997 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:58 pm

I'll try to post the takeaways from the VCA though I'm fairly tipsy again

LavarManos · Post Post #998 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:13 pm

In post 996, Frogsterking wrote:Italiano visited Redados N2

LavarManos · Post Post #999 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:18 pm

I'll try to partner hunt, but considering my reasons for townreading Italiano were fallacious, I might not be the most reliable.
Between Fred and Casey huh