Silent Star 2: Menagerie

[Loki Dokie]

I think drusilla was trying to side with you on that thought, Loki

last time I played with scum!Ydrasse everyone but me had a very easy time catching her

Yeah, I don’t see why Pooky makes that post to her if she’s his buddy but the fact that she is in an unconfirmed pair is pretty damned obvious. Which scum in their right mind aligns themselves with an unconfirmed slot and the fact that it is with me, makes way more sense with Tayl0r!scum than NM!scum, because scum!NM really has no reason to get me executed first since I’ve been townreading and defending him the entire game, so I think scum!NM likely confirms me here. Why wouldn’t he?

[Loki Dokie]

But these aren't even mafia games. These are Secret Hitler games run in real time during Marathon day. You're not really comparing apples to apples here.

her lack of commitment and detachment is very scum-indicative. Mafia usually do feel detached in these nomination scenarios when they do not have anything at stake.

she doesn't have any completed longform mafia games as far as I can tell from looking at her history.

the ones you've listed are real-time ones.

If you believe she is mafia who do you think she recruits or would recruit her?

I think I play a lot differently between real-time and slow-form - but everyone is different.

like when I'm playing real time I usually have a lot harder time following the thread.

These series of posts are strange. why is he constantly waffling on his Tayl0r read?

because hes scum?

It also reads partnery. Scum usually don’t want to take a hard position on their buddy.

[drusilla]

I mean it’s obviously wifom but why does scum!Ydrasse align herself with an unconfirmed slot? She’s supposedly not terrible at playing scum, is she?

hm. why would this be terrible scumplay? you were largely townread yesterday, yes?

basically, from your point of view, you are town, but plusjoyed was chosen to be enlightened instead of you. meaning that the mafia did not want to pair two of the more scummy people together because then they'd be eliminated at the same time and they'd have less chance of winning the final battle, and that they did not want to pair themselves with plusjoyed. it seems to me is the case if you are town. making it more likely ydrasse because paired with you rather than less, which makes you stressing the unconfirmed thing strange to me.

[Ydrasse]

hi, i'm super sorry i wasn't around for deadline, i'm really tired rn and i'll be around tomorrow for Real Posting

but for now i skimmed today so far and my gut says n_m, but trying to verbalize it leads me to a mean reason to scumread someone and is a result only of this phase s: that, or it's someone trying to frame n_m but given that isis posted that she thinks n_m plays to make things less fun for her i don't know if n_m is the type of player who would go out of his way to lover someone who dislikes his play like that in an effort to get them voted out.

[drusilla]

i think not mafia would have always chosen isis if mafia in this situation end of thought.

[Ydrasse]

what do you mean by that?

[drusilla]

what do you mean by that?

i think not mafia would have chosen isis if mafia here based on her speculation at the end of day yesterday about his not being present to hammer.

[Ydrasse]

...

it feels like word salad trying to think and read that rn so ii'm going to bed and going to read that again tomorrow.

[Ydrasse]

good night thread

[Isis]

sleep well Ydrasse

[drusilla]

it feels like word salad trying to think and read that rn so ii'm going to bed and going to read that again tomorrow.

sorry i think that's probably my communicating ineffectively rather than your being tired. i will try to rephrase. so end of day isis says 'hm, weird not mafia isn't around to hammer' assumedly because not mafia seems to take great pleasure in the hammer. so if mafia, not mafia would likely want to pair himself with her. unfortunately for us, i think the other scum options would also want to pair not mafia with isis, so.

[Loki Dokie]

I hope I can show I'm town over the next few days. I'd rather manage to show I'm town rather than set out to prove pooky is scum since I don't know for sure that he is

It would be nice if one of you is scum because do we lose if both of you are town or do we just reset? With the post restrictions lifted, I probably wouldn’t vote for either of you. I know we don’t need to worry about this now but who stands out to you as scummy from the rest of the playerlist? Getting both yours and Pooky’s reads on the other players would probably be the most helpful thing either of you could do here.

i strongly expect that if Pooky and I are both town, we will get to keep eliminating players

I townread you and Ydrasse, and I lean scum on plusJOYED and Pooky. I was townreading drusilla but I'm a bit creeped out by her being dismissive about your slot townslipping.

Kanna is hard
I don't think Tayl0r has done much yet which I guess is somewhat similar to plusJOYED's status but it bothers me less from her for little reasons

its because i dont have an anime avatar, isnt it?

hm, did you read my post backwards? plusJOYED and I both have anime avatars, but I'm scumreading JOYED more than you for similar behavior, which would be a break in anime solidarity. So your question doesn't make intuitive sense to me

I agree with this, I’d vote plusjoyed over Tayl0r. I also agree with you on Ydrasse. I also like Kanna and NM.

Why do you townread Not_Mafia? I don't have anything there

Nothing about his play suggested any kind of agenda whatsoever and it’s pretty damned obvious, that scum would be the only ones totally not playing blind.

Two posts where I defend NM, so why wouldn’t scum!him confirm me?

[Loki Dokie]

I mean it’s obviously wifom but why does scum!Ydrasse align herself with an unconfirmed slot? She’s supposedly not terrible at playing scum, is she?

hm. why would this be terrible scumplay? you were largely townread yesterday, yes?

basically, from your point of view, you are town, but plusjoyed was chosen to be enlightened instead of you. meaning that the mafia did not want to pair two of the more scummy people together because then they'd be eliminated at the same time and they'd have less chance of winning the final battle, and that they did not want to pair themselves with plusjoyed. it seems to me is the case if you are town. making it more likely ydrasse because paired with you rather than less, which makes you stressing the unconfirmed thing strange to me.

Well Ydrasse has to answer this obviously. I can only tell you that I think it would be hella stupid for scum!Ydrasse to have done that, because her chances of being executed are much higher because I am literally the only one who’s seeing how suboptimal it would be for scum to do this. I really don’t understand why you think it’s strange in the slightest? Tell me why you think it makes more sense for scum!Ydrasse to pair herself with an unconfirmed slot? Because it makes absolutely no sense to me.

[Loki Dokie]

I mean it’s obviously wifom but why does scum!Ydrasse align herself with an unconfirmed slot? She’s supposedly not terrible at playing scum, is she?

hm. why would this be terrible scumplay? you were largely townread yesterday, yes?

basically, from your point of view, you are town, but plusjoyed was chosen to be enlightened instead of you. meaning that the mafia did not want to pair two of the more scummy people together because then they'd be eliminated at the same time and they'd have less chance of winning the final battle, and that they did not want to pair themselves with plusjoyed. it seems to me is the case if you are town. making it more likely ydrasse because paired with you rather than less, which makes you stressing the unconfirmed thing strange to me.

Well Ydrasse has to answer this obviously. I can only tell you that I think it would be hella stupid for scum!Ydrasse to have done that, because her chances of being executed are much higher because I am literally the only one who’s seeing how suboptimal it would be for scum to do this. I really don’t understand why you think it’s strange in the slightest? Tell me why you think it makes more sense for scum!Ydrasse to pair herself with an unconfirmed slot? Because it makes absolutely no sense to me.

[Loki Dokie]

I mean it’s obviously wifom but why does scum!Ydrasse align herself with an unconfirmed slot? She’s supposedly not terrible at playing scum, is she?

hm. why would this be terrible scumplay? you were largely townread yesterday, yes?

basically, from your point of view, you are town, but plusjoyed was chosen to be enlightened instead of you. meaning that the mafia did not want to pair two of the more scummy people together because then they'd be eliminated at the same time and they'd have less chance of winning the final battle, and that they did not want to pair themselves with plusjoyed. it seems to me is the case if you are town. making it more likely ydrasse because paired with you rather than less, which makes you stressing the unconfirmed thing strange to me.

Well Ydrasse has to answer this obviously. I can only tell you that I think it would be hella stupid for scum!Ydrasse to have done that, because her chances of being executed are much higher because I am literally the only one who’s seeing how suboptimal it would be for scum to do this. I really don’t understand why you think it’s strange in the slightest? Tell me why you think it makes more sense for scum!Ydrasse to pair herself with an unconfirmed slot? Because it makes absolutely no sense to me.

[Loki Dokie]

I mean it’s obviously wifom but why does scum!Ydrasse align herself with an unconfirmed slot? She’s supposedly not terrible at playing scum, is she?

hm. why would this be terrible scumplay? you were largely townread yesterday, yes?

basically, from your point of view, you are town, but plusjoyed was chosen to be enlightened instead of you. meaning that the mafia did not want to pair two of the more scummy people together because then they'd be eliminated at the same time and they'd have less chance of winning the final battle, and that they did not want to pair themselves with plusjoyed. it seems to me is the case if you are town. making it more likely ydrasse because paired with you rather than less, which makes you stressing the unconfirmed thing strange to me.

Well Ydrasse has to answer this obviously. I can only tell you that I think it would be hella stupid for scum!Ydrasse to have done that, because her chances of being executed are much higher because I am literally the only one who’s seeing how suboptimal it would be for scum to do this. I really don’t understand why you think it’s strange in the slightest? Tell me why you think it makes more sense for scum!Ydrasse to pair herself with an unconfirmed slot? Because it makes absolutely no sense to me.

[Loki Dokie]

hi, i'm super sorry i wasn't around for deadline, i'm really tired rn and i'll be around tomorrow for Real Posting

but for now i skimmed today so far and my gut says n_m, but trying to verbalize it leads me to a mean reason to scumread someone and is a result only of this phase s: that, or it's someone trying to frame n_m but given that isis posted that she thinks n_m plays to make things less fun for her i don't know if n_m is the type of player who would go out of his way to lover someone who dislikes his play like that in an effort to get them voted out.

i think not mafia would have always chosen isis if mafia in this situation end of thought.

Okay that part actually does make sense but not the not confirming me part. Why wouldn’t he confirm a slot that is townreading him? I guess I’m thinking if I were him, I’d confirm me because I was defending him but I guess I shouldn’t assume how other people think. I’m an extremely logical player.

[drusilla]

Well Ydrasse has to answer this obviously. I can only tell you that I think it would be hella stupid for scum!Ydrasse to have done that, because her chances of being executed are much higher because I am literally the only one who’s seeing how suboptimal it would be for scum to do this. I really don’t understand why you think it’s strange in the slightest? Tell me why you think it makes more sense for scum!Ydrasse to pair herself with an unconfirmed slot? Because it makes absolutely no sense to me.

because mafia need to survive two eliminations to win in this situation. so if one is the unconfirmeds, then mafia still need to win the one v one, in which case, why would plusjoyed have been enlightened instead of you? and the most apparent reason for this outside of you being mafia is to pair oneself with you.

[Loki Dokie]

Well Ydrasse has to answer this obviously. I can only tell you that I think it would be hella stupid for scum!Ydrasse to have done that, because her chances of being executed are much higher because I am literally the only one who’s seeing how suboptimal it would be for scum to do this. I really don’t understand why you think it’s strange in the slightest? Tell me why you think it makes more sense for scum!Ydrasse to pair herself with an unconfirmed slot? Because it makes absolutely no sense to me.

because mafia need to survive two eliminations to win in this situation. so if one is the unconfirmeds, then mafia still need to win the one v one, in which case, why would plusjoyed have been enlightened instead of you? and the most apparent reason for this outside of you being mafia is to pair oneself with you.

I already told you why but for some reason you seem to have forgotten about it. It all makes perfect sense if Tayl0r’s scum here, because I’ve been pushing her. This is seriously frustrating me that you guys aren’t seeing the obvious. If we lose this, don’t blame me.

[Isis]

Loki I promise not to blame you if we lose this game you had above average play through the game imo

sometimes I just don't always agree with someone and that's part of mafia

[Loki Dokie]

1279. I think I’ve made an extremely strong case why it’s likely Tayl0r. Pooky first tries to discredit my case due to them being marathon games and not in “real time” and then suddenly switches to oh she’s so disconnected because he knows arguing my case further would probably raise my suspicions of him and guarantee his death. He had absolutely no reaction to you pushing Ydrasse. He did mention NM but unlike Tayl0r, what he said about NM actually made sense.

[Isis]

I might vote for Taylor today or tomorrow

let's keep sorting we have lots of days to play here

[Loki Dokie]

Loki I promise not to blame you if we lose this game you had above average play through the game imo

sometimes I just don't always agree with someone and that's part of mafia

Let’s say we vote NM and game doesn’t end and Ydrasse is town, then we freaking lose.

[drusilla]

i tend to just blame myself for all losses. like i've never had a game where i was playing at highend limitation and even if i was then simply my limitation wasn't high enough. shrug.

[Isis]

drusilla you are good at mafia