Mini Theme 2161: Undertale C Open - Chara's Folly

[Morning Tweet]

Yo i may be thinking totally irrationally rn or whatever but i am totally down for eliminating lavender

based on having second thoughts abt tayl0r or Krazy being scum

Also if Lavender is scum, she is probably the Chara no? That would explain why she's having so much difficulty making any content. That could also implicate her as just being scum in general too. I thought for sure she had more posts than this in the one game of hers I followed a lil while back -- crossfire.

Her partner could be a lot of ppl, but didnt Tanner try to swap the wagon off Elements to Lavender D1? Am I misremembering? I swear someone wanted us to swap to Lav but idk who.

ok that's my last input 4 tonight ty for reading

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lavendar is like this in every game ive ever played with her. if you want her opinion on something just ask.

[Hectic]

@hectic what do you think about the catboi NK not really making sense if redtea is scum? Catboi was one of the few people who was town-slotting red-tea hard - I don't see why the NK falls here when there are so many better townread players here..

Oh, really? I'd completely overlooked that.

Guess I need to do more research tomorrow.

actually it was the NKA not the meta but this is the post I was thinking about -- it feels like Hectic was like, yeah need to look into that, and then the next day forgot he made this post and returned to TunnelVision[TM]

hm.

@hectic

?

Morning said something about it which I agreed with, and then I forgot to talk about it myself.

If redtea's slot was Chara, killing a mostly consensus townread slot which townread him isn't a big deal, since redtea doesn't plan to stick around for long. The other scum player has more agency in the kill essentially.

catboi may also have been killed for other reasons, Prism has massive equity with scum!Krazy right now and catboi was one of the few who was iffy on him.

[Hectic]

(Morning is still obvtown - never FIGHT there in the event of my death somehow)

[Krazy]

Why are you shading obvtown? You're actually concerning me Hectic lol

[Hectic]

Yeah, I agree that he looks obvtown despite having a lot of equity with you, that's the problem lol
His scumgame has to be insane for how he's played this day phase. That's what worries me even more if you

are

ChArA and get away today

[Hectic]

Because then who knows who your partner is.

Feeling pretty disillusioned though, and I can't tell if it's everyone changing their minds around me, like Morning, or if I believe in it less myself.

[Hectic]

Bad timing for this game, but I need to

V/LA until 1st October

I might be able to pop in some, but I doubt I'll be able to read everything.

[Krazy]

Just detach the little guy from your head and tell him to keep you up to date

[Hectic]

Good idea. Take good care of him while I'm gone, okay?

[Krazy]

Awww he's a widdle cutie pie yes he is :3

[CantHateAPuppy]

catboi may also have been killed for other reasons, Prism has massive equity wit

yeah, thinking about it, NKA doesn't do it for me because if redtea were scum, it'd be the partner who made the kill. so never mind

[CantHateAPuppy]

lavendar is like this in every game ive ever played with her. if you want her opinion on something just ask.

@lavendar: question time!

1st obvious question is top scumread / who would u vote right now / is there a reason u aren't voting rn?

2nd, do u have an opinion on the common observation that this game seems like a strong town? if u are town then u kind of have a lot of competition to be townread against, so an impassioned "omg i am so town town town" rant could do u some good here?

3rd, who have u faced here before who u think u might have some special insight on?

[Prism]

I feel like you aren't genuinely sorting my slot, Hectic.

You say I have massive scum equity with Krazy, but just leave it at that. I'm town, but I feel like you should have figured out by now that the far more dangerous possibility is that I'm scum with not-Krazy.

You agree that I seem obvtown and my scumgame would have to be insane, but I don't think you can explain why other than insane effort the last 20/30 pages. If I'm destined to be solo scum, though, I have to put in great effort. You haven't looked into my scum meta at all, either, as far as I can tell.

[CantHateAPuppy]

prism on that 5-6 hour sleep schedule, that's a towntell

[Prism]

My presence is eternal, my gaze inescapable

[Tanner]

not sure why Hectic thinks we're in the world where Beeboy didn't give up on the game when it's pretty clear he did give up on the game.

The NK on Catboi imo is more AI for redtea!town than the beeboy vote on taylor is for taylor!town. There is also the possibility they are both town and we need to zoom out a bit more.

i heavily agree with this post but currently have no conclusions about hectic's alignment wrt this, will circle back to it in following days maybe

i don't know how i feel about the fact krazy is like... jumping around from this person to that person being scum, while still keeping the vote on me (so i'm assuming i'm still his strongest scumread), while continuously ignoring my attempts to talk to him,

while

shading hectic (1885) for refusing to work with him...

though him talking about hectic/morning tweet and that being my current tinfoil paranoia solve is not doing good things to my sanity

why does no one think lavender is scum here?

afaict everyone has them in their scumpool? do *you* think lavender is scum?

I think I know how to evaluate Lavender down the line probably and there is little info to be gained if we misfight them

i just remembered this post for some reason

@morning

is there an update on this?

i got to the bottom of page 79, i'm getting distracted, be back in a bit

[Krazy]

Which attempts to talk have I ignored? I would never ignore you Tantisi!

I am passing out at this particular moment but let me know what I missed and I'll get to it in the morn

[Tanner]

1977 - how is taylor not evil here????

what are your current thoughts/reads? who do you think we should eliminate today?

lavender or tanner. prism would be spicy but im not sure if im just tinfoil hatting or seeing things clearly

where did chara go? why are you now considering lavender? why am i scum other than ~*gut*~?

tanner doesnt feel like datisi. it could be the alt, datisi said as much. but theres definitely something off. theres none of the energy or solving you see from datisi

...? ??? ? ?? ?
you said you're not an alt, right? have you been reading my games or something? because i'm pretty sure we have literally never played together?

now i'm scum with lavender
you cannot be serious

Her partner could be a lot of ppl, but didnt Tanner try to swap the wagon off Elements to Lavender D1? Am I misremembering? I swear someone wanted us to swap to Lav but idk who.

it was me and catboi.

pedit: sure, lemme dig it up real quick.

[Tanner]

Which attempts to talk have I ignored? I would never ignore you Tantisi!

I am passing out at this particular moment but let me know what I missed and I'll get to it in the morn

ok i think it was just post 1859 but it was technically multiple questions

your meta on me is just... post-apoc and flying scumsman, right? those two are probably the worst games to meta me from

[Tanner]

HURT: lavender

i'm gonna go back to bussing i guess

[Chara]

i have a lot of confidence in the townreads i have and zero confidence in the scumreads. :<
especially Hectic, as i was reading his ISO last night before passing out and he does seem so earnest.

[Chara]

it's his reaction to the pressure, too. i expect town Hectic to react to pressure just as much as scum Hectic, and it does work to bring players more fully into the game.
that's not why i'm reconsidering the push, though... it's just difficult to put into words. i feel like i can hear him speaking with his reads.

that sounds dumb. is that what a soulread is? i'll feel even more stupid if he's scum.
HURT: Isis

[Prism]

the light has gone from my life

once again I am alone

[Prism]

I'll be curled up in bed, curtains drawn, softly looping Tame Impala and Frank Ocean on my phone speaker if anyone needs me

NOT THAT ANYONE EVER WILL