mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Tayl0r Swift]

my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.

Almost50 did. At least we got a clear from it.

uh who is clear? shelly is still only clear based on plusjoy's claim and theres no reason to think plusjoy's claim should be believed. plusjoy just made himself a target without actually creating any cops. and between 6 masons and a cop inventor and a tracker and a public cop its starting to look like a LOT of town power. something stinks.

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: DS

[TheGoldenParadox]

i'm a hard claimed 3p but you need to "reevaluate"? I call bullshit.

Titus, Mastina, and I are the same alignment. You either think we are doing a really really stupid gambit and we are all kings army pretending to be 3p or we are just all 3p and scum is getting owned.

There’s always the theory I have been kicking around that army is also 3P but op 3P and there is no group scum. This one is very moonlogicky though.

what do we define as 3p or group scum here

[shellyc]

the majority of players will be town

. everyone is multitasking. private topics will generally always be open. there is no redirection. if you can think of something similar to redirection, it's probably not in this. this is also generally unlike a role madness game - plenty of people will be vanilla or almost vanilla.

roles will flip with their name and alignment, with clarifications added for certain unfamiliar things.

makes me think some (?) masons arent masons and there is no traditional scum

[Something_Smart]

im town

That's not a flaw. If you're town, then any statement "If shelly is scum, then X" is true by default.

[shellyc]

TGP what is your read on SS and Bell

pedit: yeah, but X isn't correct

[Tayl0r Swift]

im town

That's not a flaw. If you're town, then any statement "If shelly is scum, then X" is true by default.

if shelly is scum then the moon is made of blue cheese

[Titus]

SS is unfortunately correct. I don't like his analysis coming out after shellyc and plus but a smart scum team would say she got nothing.

[shellyc]

uh who is clear? shelly is still only clear based on plusjoy's claim and theres no reason to think plusjoy's claim should be believed. plusjoy just made himself a target without actually creating any cops. and between 6 masons and a cop inventor and a tracker and a public cop its starting to look like a LOT of town power. something stinks.

shady tone, can we all use occam's, -1 townpoint

pedit: what makes you TR me? since you don't believe the claim from plus.

[TheGoldenParadox]

my read on ss is pretty clear: i don't think they're town at all, they've scumslipped and just generally seem to be giving off quite scummy vibes instead of the attempts to solve i would expect

bell is pretty scummy as well but that slot is eh for me it could go either way

tbh i'm just trying to wrap my head around the dual hailstorm and gaping hole of information and i'm not doing well at it my brain is fried

[Something_Smart]

pedit: yeah, but X isn't correct

It is true that you are not conftown via mechanics.

Argue all you want that you would have been too clueless to correctly figure out how to answer as scum, but that is another matter entirely.

[TheGoldenParadox]

SS is unfortunately correct. I don't like his analysis coming out after shellyc and plus but a smart scum team would say she got nothing.

^this

[PlusJOYED]

my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.

Almost50 did. At least we got a clear from it.

they claimed miller mason thats a joke claim

[MathBlade]

23 scum means minimum 12 town.
Assume all 3P claims are 3P that means 18 total.
23 at start means 4 scum + SK or 5 scum and town Vig
Or
We’re looking at 3P go round and round alignment go round

[shellyc]

my read on ss is pretty clear: i don't think they're town at all, they've scumslipped and just generally seem to be giving off quite scummy vibes instead of the attempts to solve i would expect

bell is pretty scummy as well but that slot is eh for me it could go either way

tbh i'm just trying to wrap my head around the dual hailstorm and gaping hole of information and i'm not doing well at it my brain is fried

ehhhhhhhhh

TGP/SS are not s/s? TGP/Bell could be s/s

this is a scumpost imo

[Something_Smart]

they've scumslipped

I don't believe you responded to this:

I don't understand why you think one way of phrasing is more likely from one alignment than the other. They are equivalent.

[Titus]

my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.

Almost50 did. At least we got a clear from it.

they claimed miller mason thats a joke claim

It's too late to go get my vodka.

[TheGoldenParadox]

the entire thing is completely nai if you look at it

if shelly is town, she legitimately did not receive anything
if she's scum, she knows there's either a loyal or a disloyal modifier. since she must have received something, and she knows that plusjoyed isn't aligned with her, she would say she didn't receive anything

any scumteam in this PL could figure this out

[shellyc]

idrt thats a scumslip from S_S, wrong wincon wording can be from town
90% of "scumslips" come from town btw

[MathBlade]

my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.

Almost50 did. At least we got a clear from it.

they claimed miller mason thats a joke claim

Almost50 is in a 3P hood with Super Bowl + 1
Almost50 claims to win with town similar to Titus’s claim.

[shellyc]

if she's scum, she knows there's either a loyal or a disloyal modifier. since she must have received something, and she knows that plusjoyed isn't aligned with her, she would say she didn't receive anything

there's a flaw
if its scum!me + loyal mod I would not have gotten anything

[MathBlade]

idrt thats a scumslip from S_S, wrong wincon wording can be from town
90% of "scumslips" come from town btw

Meh I scumread SS outside of the “scum slip”. So I am cool with them being the exe today

[TheGoldenParadox]

they've scumslipped

I don't believe you responded to this:

I don't understand why you think one way of phrasing is more likely from one alignment than the other. They are equivalent.

because it seems to me like you forgot to reread the town role pm linked on the first page, instead of your own role pm, which if town would make you more likely to say you'd check your role pm imho

it's not damning but it's a scum slip and one that seems more likely from scum

[TheGoldenParadox]

if she's scum, she knows there's either a loyal or a disloyal modifier. since she must have received something, and she knows that plusjoyed isn't aligned with her, she would say she didn't receive anything

there's a flaw
if its scum!me + loyal mod I would not have gotten anything

but the modifier isn't loyal, and scum!you therefore did get something

[Titus]

23 scum means minimum 12 town.
Assume all 3P claims are 3P that means 18 total.
23 at start means 4 scum + SK or 5 scum and town Vig
Or
We’re looking at 3P go round and round alignment go round

5 scum and a vig is my bet. It fits with Gamma's rants perfectly. 4 scum with 3 players (in two sets) who will never vote each other is two small.