In post 22, Hoopla wrote: In post 20, skitter30 wrote:Also i'm intrigued that scum picked informed, i prob would have picked multitasking
you're lucky you voted correctly, otherwise i would be all over this.
The fact that she says this and then keeps pushing on skitter for it is like ???
It just felt off, it's enough to vote on at this stage of the game and I'm not sure why she didn't.
In post 133, Hoopla wrote:
enthusiastic & busy, which is usually a good sign early.
i do think a couple of his questions seem surface-level, though. in some ways that is nature of the beast for early game discussions; everyone has to start somewhere.
but these sort of questions seem like meaningless busywork:
In post 41, Uncrowned wrote:With this thought process in mind, how many scum do you think there is between myself (14) Infinity (23) and Petapan (100000)?
Ok I liked this post at first, but it's actually a problem I have with a lot of hoopla's posting. It looks nuanced on the surface, but it's not really saying much. And she doesn't really follow up on this worry; her read instead evolves to "active poster and will look at later".
In post 309, Hoopla wrote:
looks to me like he threw out a surface-level offhand 'read' on skitter, then when someone pressed him on it, he just made up some BS and doubled down on it when pressed again.
i think if this was a genuine town observation, it's more likely for him to have had this thought about me (someone who has actually posted walls).
She's clearly thinking about this and trying to get into JV's head, but the scum motivation isn't there. Like why doesn't scum!JV say this about hoopla instead? Why don't they just say nothing?
In post 576, Hoopla wrote:
dunnstral
- played a game as scum against him recently, and he was a dominant voice on D1 that seemed quite obviously town. granted, i had confirmed info that game which can sometimes trick you into thinking someone is more town than they actually are, but i haven't seen similar town energy from him yet.
uncrowned
- i'm a believer in awarding town points for super active players (as annoying as they are). a few of his posts have felt cosmetic, but i suppose when you throw out as many nets as he does, some will come back empty. i don't know. i've been skimming his posts recently, and i shamelessly admit to this fact, if only as passive-aggressive way to guilt-trip him into a "quality over quantity" mindset. regardless, as most active poster, he gets a pass for now.
infinity 324
- i think his handling of the jackson virgo episode was very level-headed (given i now realise JV is prob-town). i think he could have easily been sucked into going along with my logic, or at least not played devil's advocate in a way to throw the brakes on what could have been a fast wagon if there was less resistance. leaning town.
petapan
- i have a vague uneasiness with peta's willingness to go to bat for my parade of naked voting. a part of me feels like it's early buddying, but it could also be we both share a similar philosophy about voting/wagoning. leaning scum so far. she also tricked me into attacking a fellow member of the 4 bracket!
Clearly shows a willingness to use nuance and be thoughtful, but she uses it inconsistently. Often I use nuance/thoughtfulness inconsistently as scum because if I used it all the time, it would lead me to having scumreads on all my buddies since I have more information.
In post 771, Hoopla wrote: In post 710, TheGoldenParadox wrote:townleaning on Infinity because i think he's making valid and helpful points and his mindset seems to be solvey, with genuine attempts to find town and scum. i don't think i have any chance at successfully reading SS
because he's a very mechanical player and my reads on those are generally quite bad
- if i had to give a read, extremely light townlean. dave is slightly weird because they seem to be focusing on me to a greater extent than they should be, and null on dunnstral because i don't have enough from them yet.
ah, so that's why your radar is off about me. i appreciate your candour.
This feels like discrediting and is sort of a weird thing to bring up as town
In post 855, Hoopla wrote:current status: sipping a coffee and reading through skitter's lilith-links.
i'm trusting skitter taking the lead on this one. skitter's a good pick for town, and i'm generally willing to sheep good town players on specific meta-claims like this (particularly on D1 when my alternative is usually utility-executing).
Why is she asking for/reading lilith's meta if she wasn't going to use it? I'm willing to sheep skitter on lilith, as I've said, but hoopla's pretending that she's trying to come to her own conclusions.
In post 858, Hoopla wrote:a couple people picked up that this looked like a scumslip:
In post 840, Infinity 324 wrote:Actually town doesn’t have a tracker right? Honestly I feel like skitter is confident enough that we maybe just lim lilith here. But I think we should talk about it more.
PEdit: you didn’t need to put it to L-1 though?
turns out that was just a typo?
but!
when i was reading the latest posts
this
actually caught my eye as a perspective slip:
does this imply he knows lilith is town? or am i out to lunch here? someone help me.
I've pointed out that I didn't like this earlier, but I also don't like how easily hoopla buys that the first isn't a scumslip. Like why couldn't I lie that it was a typo? I think these two should be equally likely to be a scumslip from a town perspective.
In post 878, Hoopla wrote: In post 873, Infinity 324 wrote:Am I BoP’ing you too much? I feel like it’s such a level 0 thing that people get scumread for all the time but is just NAI. Like we’re clearly assuming she’s town for the sake of argument there, otherwise there’s no risk in limming Lilith.
i don't know. maybe? i'm definitely guilty of reading too much into things sometimes.
I've played one game with hoopla a few years ago. If I really shouldn't be expecting hoopla to use more nuance, I think she should be pushing me more on it. In reality, a lot of my expectations come from this game, but it hasn't been something I've been able to articulate until now.
