976: mystyry box of sylvyr I: isis game. day 3

[DoubtingThomas]

@godlenparadox why is me being awkward, not productive, not accurate giving you town ping? that's weird

[DoubtingThomas]

Also why is akarin in null? He's pretty towny imo

explanation for why akarin is townie, please

[Akarin]

Also why is akarin in null? He's pretty towny imo

She. And really when there are only 2 scum in the game, handing out townreads to everyone else but me and the 2 scumreads makes that null realistically a lean scum on TGP's part.

[Akarin]

@DT

I mean. I just find it less likely for 2/2 wolves to get on me 5 pages into the game. I am more likely to see at least 1 wolf is in the 3, although it's not an impossibility to have both wolves to not have voted me. regardless, i independently scum read xygypx

There's like a 64% (?) chance for any random group of 3 to have a scum in them at this size, right?

Do you actually think it's more likely than a random set of 3 players?

If you take 3 random players, 18/28 possible 2-person scumteams, or 64% will have 1 scum within a set of 3 players.

Given this, do you think your "at least 1 in 3" is

more

likely than that random 64% chance?

[DoubtingThomas]

I am not comprehending your math here. But I am thinking that the pushes on me were more >rand wolf agenda so it's higher than 64% chance non-mathematically but reading of the game wise

[Akarin]

I mean, obviously we're talking about reading the game, I just mean that if I said "Slots 1, 2, and 3 likely contain at least 1 scum" on post 1, I'd be more likely to be right than not, so the kind of logic you were doing in that post is unhelpful and kind of bad, which is what a few people have been trying to say to you I think.

Do you think any push on a town player is >rand wolf agenda?

[Akarin]

You know, I think Nic might be my biggest town read. I'm never voting Nic today.

[DoubtingThomas]

yes. >rand wolf agenda if 3 ppl (2 votes away from maj) stack up less than 3 pages into the game?

that's what i've been saying. what is the point of this question?

[Akarin]

yes. >rand wolf agenda if 3 ppl (2 votes away from maj) stack up less than 3 pages into the game?

that's what i've been saying. what is the point of this question?

The point is me trying to figure out your thought process, you were wanting me to engage with you earlier when I didn't have much to actually ask you, why the resistance to it now?

So do you think a wagon getting to DD-2 on page 3 is unusual?

[NicCage]

Gypyx, your wagon has shrunk a little, but I don't think anyone who unvoted announced a change in opinion. Additionally, Akarin earlier said she would support either you or DT.

So in a way, you didn't just make it to T-1, you already got 5 votes and you're practically launched off into space.

I wonder, what's your plan on getting out of this situation? I don't think playing it cool is going to work.

[PlusJOYED]

Akarin feels town to me

[SKYEscrapers]

Ok so thomas is making an enormous fuss about me asking about me asking questions about someone's meta, which like, is not AI in any way

Like, sure thomas's case is wordy, but he repeats his points a lot, to compensate for the lack of content in it

He's even getting to the point of not understeanding the obvious formulation of my post, which has got to be the biggest tunnel i have ever seen of simply just deliberate

And also, to anyone who's interested i have already asked open questions about someone's meta before, and i am the kind of person to forget what questions i asked / accidentally make up others

thing is, while i don't think you're question there was scummy in isolation, it's the lack of going out and interacting with people that i don't like, and so you're just sitting there making remarks about someone's posting style, and reacting to people voting you. i don't see any sign that you actually want to find the scum.

Huh, it's kinda the opposite of what you've said though, like, i'm the one starting the conversations with peoples, where have i exactly been reacting to being voted by peoples?

You haven't really done that since early on when you went after Thomas. The second part i guess isn't really accurate, so i'll modify it to say that you seem to be sitting back a little, i don't sense that you actually want to figure the game out.

mew

[SKYEscrapers]

because gypyx didn't like the way i was signing my posts, i am now signing them with

mew

please don't

ok,

The Empress

[SKYEscrapers]

@TGP

Why the town pings on thomas?

[SKYEscrapers]

Who should I vote for?

don't like this at all

Give me 5 good reasons why

yeah this seems like the best slot to lim today

this is very wrong

The Empress

[SKYEscrapers]

Also why is akarin in null? He's pretty towny imo

this is actually a gypyx post that i agree with

The Empress

[SKYEscrapers]

mew
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@thomas

did you ever think i was serious when i was voting you in RVS? What was your thought process about me then?

mew

no because you voted me before i even posted and then said i am scummy for not addressing a vote that happened when i didnt even post yet. that can't be a real scum read.

if anything gun to head i'd say that's more >rand town because it shows as excited townie trying to read people/get reaction from people but it's not crazy to think scum would do that in an attempt to look twbtaw

So, why were you reacting like it was?

The Empress

[SKYEscrapers]

actually, VOTE: thomas

please answer 159

i don't like the way you've pushed on gypyx. while there's truth in there, you exaggerate how big a deal that question from gypyx is.

and also, ari pointed out 136, which is a bad post

hmm so you vote with me agreeing independently that gypyx is scummy, gypyx doesn't do much town indicative things but come to the conclusion that my push on gypyx is a scummy push?

correct. you were being over-dramatic about it and you were emphasizing that question about nic way too much.

The Empress

[SKYEscrapers]

@godlenparadox why is me being awkward, not productive, not accurate giving you town ping? that's weird

oh hmm.

VOTE: TGP

The Empress

[SKYEscrapers]

You know, I think Nic might be my biggest town read. I'm never voting Nic today.

and with this post, Akarin becomes my biggest townread

The Empress

[SKYEscrapers]

I'm actually feeling TGP scum stronger than I've felt scum on anyone else so far.

The Empress

[Dunnstral]

I'm actually feeling TGP scum stronger than I've felt scum on anyone else so far.

The Empress

Based on what?

The Empress

[SKYEscrapers]

Spoiler: these parts

like what kind of posts is this?

no it's actually my selfie

????????????

entire interaction pings me as insanely awkward but i think i'm feeling town vibes from DT and i'll sheep mastina on skye because i haven't played with ari in far too long

Who should I vote for?

don't like this at all

Uh it's not you, it's me.

Should I be voting for this DoubtingThomas character?

That's what they all say *sniffle*

And it depends on how much you like early Day 1 Dastardly Deed -1 (DD-1?)

DT is my top scumread right now, but...

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It's 5 to Perform a Dastardly Deed

I think it’s currently at
DT (3): Akarin, Gypyx, Mastina
gypyx (2): DT, SKYE
SKYE (1): PlusJOYED
NicCage (1): Nona

Not Voting: (2): Dunn, NicCage

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For future reference, Page 2 DT vs. SKYE peak wagons were:
DT (3): Akarin, SKYE, Gypyx
SKYE (3): PlusJOYED, Mastina, DT

1 scum in akarin/gypxy/mastina

and 1 in skye/plustjoyed/nona/dunn/niccage i think

dunn and niccage not voting at this point is an alright look

this separation, while i don't agree at all with it and i don't think trying to do that is productive or accurate, gives me town pings from DT

@ PlusJOYED

What do you think of the DoubtingThomas/Gypyx/NicCage?

I agree there is most likely at least 1 scum in there. I'm not townreading any of them and they give off a bit of scum energy. Of the 3 I'd say gypx is probably a good place to go. Imo he's most likely red.

Wasn't a fan of NicCage entrance and focus on what scum do vs what town do.

Gypx has been doubtful of most posts; he's been critiquing more than he puts out which is bad sign.

Doubting seems overconfident but the rest of his stuff seems fine.

I think NicCage will be more likely to provide good insight if he's town than Gypyx being town. Lets go Gypx
VOTE: Gypyx

i think gypyx gives off that kind of vibe in general and i'd be inclined to believe that he's the most mislynch-baity out of the three
VOTE: niccage i think this is the best place to put my vote here, i'm also inclined to agree with plusjoyed that there is at least one scum in there and i feel like DT and gypyx are more likely to be town than nic

Who should I vote for?

don't like this at all

Give me 5 good reasons why

yeah this seems like the best slot to lim today

and y r u copying me

The Empress

[mastina]

Mastina, do you have an opinion on Gypyx?

Sure do!

Hello y'all i'm a kind of reflexive role, could i get visits on me in the coming nights? Kthxbye

Town.

Nothing that I've seen has changed my mind about this.

The case on Gypyx was very thoroughly 'meh'--I saw it as something that actually looks sincere from DoubtingThomas, but the sincerity I felt from it did not inspire feelings of accuracy about the case.

mastina thinks I'm scum why?

Because the you-Nic interactions scream scum-scum and your play is highly lackluster; I'd like to think I know you as a player well enough to reliably get a read on when you're town and this game I'm not seeing the town at all.

I usually can see you as town from your first three or so posts at latest, generally speaking.

You've more than that and those townvibes are nonexistent.

[mastina]

And why that? What's the incentive to not give the reasons behind your reads?

A combination of laziness (I don't like to), feeling it's unnecessary (if the game doesn't need me to explain for it to progress, then I'd argue it's counterproductive to do so due to...), and reactions; I tend to get better reactions from not explaining than I do from explaining, and it leads to better dialogs overall than if I explain things in detail from the start.

Also I like narratives; I like to slowly work things up, with a slow buildup to the full case. Where I give nothing initially, give reactive pieces of reasons when catching up, more detailed reasons in a collective post and then if necessary expanding those collective reasons with extra detail into the fullblown case.