Death Curse

[Tayl0r Swift]

Well speaking for myself. I’m still null on you but what is your opinion on anyone who has Noraa in their scumpool? I don’t understand how anyone reading the game has Noraa!scum here. No way does scum!Fred put his buddy Noraa in obvious jeopardy when she’s already a consensus tr, so why aren’t you more concerned why Noraa isn’t one of her top trs? You just don’t risk a potential bus on a buddy that’s already a consensus tr.

I guess I don’t understand why you aren’t mentioning that at all.

can you answer my post please?
i mean thats part of why dgb became my sub-in scum. but its not just that take. all of dgb's takes seem to be aimed towards disrupting consensus and breaking associations.

[Gloria Cleary]

gloria what is your gun to head scumteam?

It depends on the flip but I think Fidget and Flea look pretty bad regardless based on what I just posted. If Shelley flips town then Idk.

so you think the scumteam is {fred, shelly, fidget, flea, ???}
can you provide a 5th name? and if fidget and flea look bad regardless then why does shelly's townflip make you unsure?

No, they could still be scum, especially Fidget. If you think Adorable is town which I do, then something’s definitely up with Fred’s scroll switch after she switched her scroll target. I also find it weird that Fred pushes Adorable based off of slot he claims not to be tr, when he was clearly positioning her as top town prior to that.

No, not yet. I probably wouldn’t even have 4, if it weren’t for the numerous times I keep seeing these names connected.

So, I’m suspicious of Fidget in either case but not ruling out Flea. But if Shelley is scum, then it looks pretty bad for all three based off Fred’s positioning in that hitlist plus his Adorable to LLD switch.

[Flea The Magician]

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Votecount 1.20

(FINAL)

[11] Toogeloo:

Hopkirk, MURDERCAT, Titus, Toogeloo, Theta Alpine, MUSHSHAGANA, Lady Lambdadelta, Noraa, UNOwen, shellyc, Bell

HAMMER

[2] Tayl0r Swift:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell

[2] Bell:

Tayl0r Swift, Vaxkiller

[2] shellyc:

Fidget, Flea The Magician

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear

Gloria Cleary

[1] Adorable:

Lapsa

[1] Not Voting:

Zdenek

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-28 03:35:35).

Joint moderator ISO.

@Flea, both you and Fidget were on Shelley.

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Votecount 2.5

(FINAL)

[9] Fredrick A Campbell:

Bell, MUSHSHAGANA, Flea The Magician, PookyTheMagicalBear, UNOwen, MURDERCAT, Titus, shellyc, Fidget

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] Tayl0r Swift:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Fidget:

Tayl0r Swift

[1] Adorable:

Theta Alpine

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear:

Noraa

[3] Not Voting:

Lady Lambdadelta, DrippingGoofball, Gloria Cleary

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-06 21:29:24).

Joint moderator ISO.

And all three of you were on Fred.

shellyc, Flea The Magician, Adorable and Gloria Cleary.

Then this.

And I’ve already discussed Fred’s switch from scrolling Adorable to LLD after she changed her scroll target from Noraa to Fidget. I mean it’s possible that all of this is sheer cooincidence but what are the odds?

Soo, you're using some loose VCA, WIFOM, and a gamblers fallacy.

Kewl.

[Gloria Cleary]

I see a fairly clear trajectory where shell wagon stalled until she came out with Owen being her throw. Then it picked up like nobody’s business.

Hmm . . . interesting. I don’t understand why town!Shelley yeets him over Fidget, who she keeps pushing as scum but never seems to want to kill her.

I metadived Zdeneck to see if he treats a buddy the way he did Owno here and I was expecting to find that he did but in the only scumgame of his I could find, he didn’t do that, so Pooky may be right on him.

[Tayl0r Swift]

flea could be scum, in which case id say pooky is prolly town. but dgb's actions are pretty strange coming from town. anyway i think those 6 people are a game-winning PoE.

[Tayl0r Swift]

but scum is in:

shelly/(uno)
fidget
titus
dgb
pooky
flea

[Bell]

You don’t say.

[Gloria Cleary]

I think maybe is the right response, FWIW. I've been solidly questioning Titus since her replace in and that's still the state I'm in.

I think we can definitely agree that she and Tayl0r are never buddies here. Her entire trajectory on Tayl0r makes no sense if they’re linked.

[Tayl0r Swift]

You don’t say.

i mean all the scum

[Flea The Magician]

flea could be scum, in which case id say pooky is prolly town. but dgb's actions are pretty strange coming from town. anyway i think those 6 people are a game-winning PoE.

Curious about this one too, me and pooky have had like zero interaction. I don't even remember pooky posting a read on me.

[MURDERCAT]

I have a pretty solid town read on taylor which has also led me to question Pooky for the same reason.

[Tayl0r Swift]

flea could be scum, in which case id say pooky is prolly town. but dgb's actions are pretty strange coming from town. anyway i think those 6 people are a game-winning PoE.

Curious about this one too, me and pooky have had like zero interaction. I don't even remember pooky posting a read on me.

ok but thats also common for scumbuddies

[MURDERCAT]

At least if Tayl0r is scum in this game she has not only gotten a lot better at it but her confidence in her scum game has increased a ton

[Gloria Cleary]

Spoiler:

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Votecount 1.20

(FINAL)

[11] Toogeloo:

Hopkirk, MURDERCAT, Titus, Toogeloo, Theta Alpine, MUSHSHAGANA, Lady Lambdadelta, Noraa, UNOwen, shellyc, Bell

HAMMER

[2] Tayl0r Swift:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell

[2] Bell:

Tayl0r Swift, Vaxkiller

[2] shellyc:

Fidget, Flea The Magician

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear

Gloria Cleary

[1] Adorable:

Lapsa

[1] Not Voting:

Zdenek

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-28 03:35:35).

Joint moderator ISO.

@Flea, both you and Fidget were on Shelley.

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Votecount 2.5

(FINAL)

[9] Fredrick A Campbell:

Bell, MUSHSHAGANA, Flea The Magician, PookyTheMagicalBear, UNOwen, MURDERCAT, Titus, shellyc, Fidget

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] Tayl0r Swift:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Fidget:

Tayl0r Swift

[1] Adorable:

Theta Alpine

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear:

Noraa

[3] Not Voting:

Lady Lambdadelta, DrippingGoofball, Gloria Cleary

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-06 21:29:24).

Joint moderator ISO.

And all three of you were on Fred.

shellyc, Flea The Magician, Adorable and Gloria Cleary.

Then this.

And I’ve already discussed Fred’s switch from scrolling Adorable to LLD after she changed her scroll target from Noraa to Fidget. I mean it’s possible that all of this is sheer cooincidence but what are the odds?

Soo, you're using some loose VCA, WIFOM, and a gamblers fallacy.

Kewl.

I think the associatives here are pretty compelling and instead of explaining why I’m wrong you just dismiss it. So do you have an alternative explanation or do you just chalk all of it up to sheer coincidence and why?

[Tayl0r Swift]

gloria you think scum!fidget and scum!flea were both on scum!shelly rather than town!toog?

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler:

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Votecount 1.20

(FINAL)

[11] Toogeloo:

Hopkirk, MURDERCAT, Titus, Toogeloo, Theta Alpine, MUSHSHAGANA, Lady Lambdadelta, Noraa, UNOwen, shellyc, Bell

HAMMER

[2] Tayl0r Swift:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell

[2] Bell:

Tayl0r Swift, Vaxkiller

[2] shellyc:

Fidget, Flea The Magician

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear

Gloria Cleary

[1] Adorable:

Lapsa

[1] Not Voting:

Zdenek

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-28 03:35:35).

Joint moderator ISO.

@Flea, both you and Fidget were on Shelley.

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Votecount 2.5

(FINAL)

[9] Fredrick A Campbell:

Bell, MUSHSHAGANA, Flea The Magician, PookyTheMagicalBear, UNOwen, MURDERCAT, Titus, shellyc, Fidget

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] Tayl0r Swift:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Fidget:

Tayl0r Swift

[1] Adorable:

Theta Alpine

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear:

Noraa

[3] Not Voting:

Lady Lambdadelta, DrippingGoofball, Gloria Cleary

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-06 21:29:24).

Joint moderator ISO.

And all three of you were on Fred.

shellyc, Flea The Magician, Adorable and Gloria Cleary.

Then this.

And I’ve already discussed Fred’s switch from scrolling Adorable to LLD after she changed her scroll target from Noraa to Fidget. I mean it’s possible that all of this is sheer cooincidence but what are the odds?

Soo, you're using some loose VCA, WIFOM, and a gamblers fallacy.

Kewl.

I think the associatives here are pretty compelling and instead of explaining why I’m wrong you just dismiss it. So do you have an alternative explanation or do you just chalk all of it up to sheer coincidence and why?

Cant argue against a fallacy. If youre using it, its on you.

[Bell]

At least if Tayl0r is scum in this game she has not only gotten a lot better at it but her confidence in her scum game has increased a ton

Are you unconfident as scum Taylor?

[Bell]

I believe she recently made a remark about wanting to win games while surviving and at the end of the game for everyone to say they knew she was scum but never voted her anyway because there was always someone worse.

[Tayl0r Swift]

At least if Tayl0r is scum in this game she has not only gotten a lot better at it but her confidence in her scum game has increased a ton

Are you unconfident as scum Taylor?

i certainly have been since i started playing again. i think the meta has changed a bit or maybe its just this site. but i remember being good at scum back in the day. now im pretty awful mostly.

[Gloria Cleary]

At least if Tayl0r is scum in this game she has not only gotten a lot better at it but her confidence in her scum game has increased a ton

Well Fred pushed LLD/Noraa as scum theatre, so that makes me wonder if that’s also the case with Pooky/Taylor.

That they’re both town. What I’m wondering is not one of the slots he was pushing with the exception of Adorable, wound up on his hitlist.

Why did he push those slots but keep all of them out of it?

[Gloria Cleary]

gloria you think scum!fidget and scum!flea were both on scum!shelly rather than town!toog?

Did you read the VC? I don’t understand what you’re asking me?

[Tayl0r Swift]

gloria you think scum!fidget and scum!flea were both on scum!shelly rather than town!toog?

Did you read the VC? I don’t understand what you’re asking me?

it just seems odd that scum would be so blatant in voting. i doubt based on that VC that all of fidget, flea, and shelly are scum.

[Gloria Cleary]

Spoiler:

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Votecount 1.20

(FINAL)

[11] Toogeloo:

Hopkirk, MURDERCAT, Titus, Toogeloo, Theta Alpine, MUSHSHAGANA, Lady Lambdadelta, Noraa, UNOwen, shellyc, Bell

HAMMER

[2] Tayl0r Swift:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell

[2] Bell:

Tayl0r Swift, Vaxkiller

[2] shellyc:

Fidget, Flea The Magician

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear

Gloria Cleary

[1] Adorable:

Lapsa

[1] Not Voting:

Zdenek

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-28 03:35:35).

Joint moderator ISO.

@Flea, both you and Fidget were on Shelley.

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Votecount 2.5

(FINAL)

[9] Fredrick A Campbell:

Bell, MUSHSHAGANA, Flea The Magician, PookyTheMagicalBear, UNOwen, MURDERCAT, Titus, shellyc, Fidget

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] Tayl0r Swift:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Fidget:

Tayl0r Swift

[1] Adorable:

Theta Alpine

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear:

Noraa

[3] Not Voting:

Lady Lambdadelta, DrippingGoofball, Gloria Cleary

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-06 21:29:24).

Joint moderator ISO.

And all three of you were on Fred.

shellyc, Flea The Magician, Adorable and Gloria Cleary.

Then this.

And I’ve already discussed Fred’s switch from scrolling Adorable to LLD after she changed her scroll target from Noraa to Fidget. I mean it’s possible that all of this is sheer cooincidence but what are the odds?

Soo, you're using some loose VCA, WIFOM, and a gamblers fallacy.

Kewl.

I think the associatives here are pretty compelling and instead of explaining why I’m wrong you just dismiss it. So do you have an alternative explanation or do you just chalk all of it up to sheer coincidence and why?

Cant argue against a fallacy. If youre using it, its on you.

How is it a fallacy? Do you or do you not agree that it’s interesting that the same names keep being connected? Like if I had entirely different names, would you be that quick to dismiss it?

[Gloria Cleary]

gloria you think scum!fidget and scum!flea were both on scum!shelly rather than town!toog?

Did you read the VC? I don’t understand what you’re asking me?

it just seems odd that scum would be so blatant in voting. i doubt based on that VC that all of fidget, flea, and shelly are scum.

It isn’t just based on VCs, there’s also the Fred connections. I probably wouldn’t be reading so much into it if it were just that.

I think it’s probably more likely not all but I don’t think you can entirely rule that out. I definitely do believe that Fred didn’t want Fidget yeeted for whatever reason and that’s why he switched his scroll from Adorable to LLD.

[Tayl0r Swift]

gloria you think scum!fidget and scum!flea were both on scum!shelly rather than town!toog?

Did you read the VC? I don’t understand what you’re asking me?

it just seems odd that scum would be so blatant in voting. i doubt based on that VC that all of fidget, flea, and shelly are scum.

It isn’t just based on VCs, there’s also the Fred connections. I probably wouldn’t be reading so much into it if it were just that.

I think it’s probably more likely not all but I don’t think you can entirely rule that out. I definitely do believe that Fred didn’t want Fidget yeeted for whatever reason and that’s why he switched his scroll from Adorable to LLD.

sure. i mostly agree. im just not sure that flea is scum. i think fidget is. shelly pretty clearly is. im not sure why we're waiting to hammer there tbh. if shelly is town then uno is confscum and shelly scrolls there.