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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:19 pm

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Will comment on Trendall's post later, in a class rn.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:02 pm

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In post 8, ben dover123 wrote: 1. Is this your first game or do you have past games? Can you link me your best scum and town games if you do have past games? In other words, what games do you want me to metadive you?

2. Favorite role? Favorite alignment?

3. How good are you at scumhunting (self-evaluation), from 1-10?
1. I finished several games on another forum years ago, but I couldn't link to them because IDK if it is still active, and it was a member's only music forum.

2. My favorite role would probably be town vigilante, as it lets you be town and try to find the scum but also take unilateral action and kill someone you think is scum. I had a game with that role but I could only shoot one time. I hit a townie :roll:

3. Pretty mediocre probably, I'd say a 5 maybe...
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:06 pm

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In post 51, Pragdoid wrote: 1. I finished several games on another forum years ago, but I couldn't link to them because IDK if it is still active, and it was a member's only music forum.
This would be your first game on this site, yes? If you have past experience that's good, Mafia is hard to pick up if you just started learning it today or yesterday. None of the experienced players want to teach everything to

clueless newbies anyways.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:12 pm

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In post 43, Trendall wrote:
In post 26, clidd wrote:VOTE: Trendall

There is a tell for ''hello'' without vote.
clidd is first mafia on the basis that he supposed loves to use meta, but didn't check back to see if this is just something I commonly do and instead thinks it's like a generalised 'tell'. These two lines of thinking aren't compatible with each other so mafia.

VOTE: clidd
Doing my quick analyzation on this post here.

I'm not 100% sure about clidd yet, but he knows a bit of meta. I'm fairly certain "Hello" is NAI, because I can see town doing it as well, people do not need to spam content in their first post, you know. So, as I see it, both


clidd and Trendall's votes are baseless, and this is a bad tell, just as bad as clidd's tell on you. Tbh this is a bit of a overreaction to such a bad tell on clidd's end, in this case I would just cast off the tell as NAI, which it is.

I'd like to hear more out of Trendall before I vote him for a micro read, which I am not confident in to say the least.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:16 pm

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Yeah, it's my first game here.

Here is a question I'd like to ask everyone:
If someone was one vote away from being lynched, and there were people who wanted to continue discussion but you were convinced they were scum, would you hammer them?
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:19 pm

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No, people here usually wait until everyone is ready to end the day.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:20 pm

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What can happen is if the person who is E-1 (1 vote before elimination/hammer) is mafia, he can selfhammer to deny time for town to speak.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:23 pm

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Btw, I like your style, Ben.

You fit the leader type.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:27 pm

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In post 53, ben dover123 wrote:this is a bad tell
not a 'tell'
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:29 pm

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Votecount 1.1
[2] clidd (ben dover123, Trendall)
[2] Trendall (Chumbo, clidd)
[1] ben dover123 (Battle Mage)

[4] Not Voting (LoneMarkhor, mars, NotAJumbleOfNumbers, Pragdoid)

With 9 alive, it is 5 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-12-12 08:30:00)
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:30 pm

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Are we going to talk about the fact that Trendal said "first mafia" instead or just "mafia" ?

It feels like he's projecting something.

Hmmmm.

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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:31 pm

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In post 54, Pragdoid wrote:If someone was one vote away from being lynched, and there were people who wanted to continue discussion but you were convinced they were scum, would you hammer them?
I dunno if I'd ever be 'convinced' of anything, but I'm happy with just hammering people I think are mafia rather than waiting for six days or whatever. Not on mylo or lylo though. Depends on various factors such as who is having the conversation and how productive it is, how likely I think the person being eliminated is to be able to talk their way out of it and so on.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:31 pm

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In post 60, clidd wrote:It feels like he's projecting something.
Only arrogance I think like 'one down, one more to go!'
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:33 pm

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Actually no, I'm open to talk.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:41 pm

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In post 8, ben dover123 wrote:Where I'm from, artofproblemsolving.com, we use RQS since our profiles do not reveal gender and specific questions like that. Here are some questions I'd like to ask everyone.

1. Is this your first game or do you have past games? Can you link me your best scum and town games if you do have past games? In other words, what games do you want me to metadive you?
This is my first forum mafia game, I have experience with live chat mafia but not forum.
2. Favorite role? Favorite alignment?
favorite alignment is town, preferably a clear power role so i don't have to worry about coming off as scummy.
3. How good are you at scumhunting (self-evaluation), from 1-10?
probably like a 4. i am not good at mafia in general.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:45 pm

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clidd wrote:Btw, I like your style, Ben.

You fit the leader type.
Thanks! :]
In post 60, clidd wrote:Are we going to talk about the fact that Trendal said "first mafia" instead or just "mafia" ?

It feels like he's projecting something.

Hmmmm.
I know people who refer to scum as "first scum" and "last scum", so this isn't that surprising to me.
mars wrote: 1. This is my first forum mafia game, I have experience with live chat mafia but not forum.
2. favorite alignment is town, preferably a clear power role so i don't have to worry about coming off as scummy.
3. probably like a 4. i am not good at mafia in general.
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In post 60, clidd wrote:It feels like he's projecting something.
Only arrogance I think like 'one down, one more to go!'
Yeah, I guessed as much. You probably like to order scum as first and last, which I do not personally agree with because scum should be treated as "we can hang them in any order", but you do you.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:03 pm

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In post 65, ben dover123 wrote:You probably like to order scum as first and last
Only chronologically in that the first person I identify as mafia is 'first mafia', once one mafia has flipped we are then looking for the 'second mafia' and so on. It's a real non-thing, I have no reason to disagree with your saying that they can be eliminated in any order and I can't think of a reason why anybody ever would.

I play like one setup on epicmafia quite a lot and on there it is very common for people to talk in terms of 'first mafia' and 'second mafia' or 'last mafia' just because of the way that the setup works. I guess just a phrase I'd picked up and had never thought about until now.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:08 pm

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Do you think I'm mafia, Trendal ?
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:12 pm

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In post 66, Trendall wrote:
In post 65, ben dover123 wrote:You probably like to order scum as first and last
Only chronologically in that the first person I identify as mafia is 'first mafia', once one mafia has flipped we are then looking for the 'second mafia' and so on. It's a real non-thing, I have no reason to disagree with your saying
that they can be eliminated in any order and I can't think of a reason why anybody ever would.

I play like one setup on epicmafia quite a lot and on there it is very common for people to talk in terms of 'first mafia' and 'second mafia' or 'last mafia' just because of the way that the setup works. I guess just a phrase I'd picked up and had never thought about until now.
Hmph. I hate games like epicmafia and mafia.gg because of the very limited claimspace and little time to talk. However, I cannot object to labeling mafia as first and second or last, because it is just a simple opinion that should

not be heavily trifled with.

Now that most people have made a post in this game, I think we start discussing over our reads now. I want to have a nice coordinated readlist between all of us. I know that it is techincally better to ensue a little more chaos

in order to try and suck some genuine reactions from scum (acting like a genuine town under pressure is a near impossible feat for scum to accomplish) but I plan to reserve that tactic for EoD, when things start to go chaotic

naturally.

Currently, I have one gentle townread, but unfortunately no more than one as there is lack of content from a lot of slots rn.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:16 pm

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tbh I'm probably going to recede my leadership and proactive role, it is quite tiring and I have other secret reasons to do so. I also want to give the newbies some time to shine brighter than me, I feel like I'm naturally

overshadowing all of them combined. If the newbies are always underneath my shadow they will never learn anything, and plus I may be missing some obvious townreads.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:21 pm

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In post 64, mars wrote:
In post 8, ben dover123 wrote:Where I'm from, artofproblemsolving.com, we use RQS since our profiles do not reveal gender and specific questions like that. Here are some questions I'd like to ask everyone.

1. Is this your first game or do you have past games? Can you link me your best scum and town games if you do have past games? In other words, what games do you want me to metadive you?
This is my first forum mafia game, I have experience with live chat mafia but not forum.
2. Favorite role? Favorite alignment?
favorite alignment is town, preferably a clear power role so i don't have to worry about coming off as scummy.
3. How good are you at scumhunting (self-evaluation), from 1-10?
probably like a 4. i am not good at mafia in general.
my bad i realize now i messed up this post
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:22 pm

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In post 68, ben dover123 wrote:it is just a simple opinion that should not be heavily trifled with.
There's nothing in the way of 'opinion' going on, it's just a turn of phrase that doesn't mean anything in terms of any deeper thinking process.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:23 pm

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In post 67, clidd wrote:Do you think I'm mafia, Trendal ?
Yes, I said already.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:28 pm

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Hum.

Idk, I was a little more sure that you were mafia but this omgus does not bring much benefit to you.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:28 pm

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There is no 'omgus', I didn't vote for you because you voted me, I voted for you for the reasons that I stated.
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