Newbie 2045: A Midwinter Night's Dream - End!

[petapan]

Jumping on wagons easily is equally as scummy imo

i guess but the way he quoted illwei doing the same routine to two different wagons doesn't feel natural

[Mikul]

agree 100 percent

[Mikul]

Not natural sums up my thoughts on his entire dp presence

[petapan]

that was actually meant to be about illwei being not natural, not quiet

[quiet]

i guess but the way he quoted illwei doing the same routine to two different wagons doesn't feel natural

are you saying that me quoting his want to E-1 routine is unnatural, or him doing the routine was unnatural? Confused on what you mean there, given you saying in the post before that it made me like me more but Illwei less.

[quiet]

asked and aswered, sorry.

[Mikul]

misinterpreted that , but yeah i feel quiet is mostly not natural

[quiet]

@Lunar: intent to hammer
please claim

would you also be willing to wait on a response from Illwei before hammering? I want to have them double down or back off before Luner is elimmed.

[BBmolla]

@Lunar: intent to hammer
please claim

would you also be willing to wait on a response from Illwei before hammering? I want to have them double down or back off before Luner is elimmed.

yeah sure I mean we gotta wait for lunar anyway

[Illwei]

I think me + a ringer partner on a first game plays pretty different than I have been.

How do you think that scum!Quiet would have done things differently so far? what would Scum!Quiet's next steps be?

that was actually meant to be about illwei being not natural, not quiet

This interaction is hilarious I love it

@Lunar: intent to hammer
please claim

would you also be willing to wait on a response from Illwei before hammering? I want to have them double down or back off before Luner is elimmed.

I mean, My silence was an "I"m fine with it". There's only so long we can talk about something until we need info.

[fferyllt]

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Lunar Martian

(4): Illwei, petapan, unwnd, safebet222

Mr Turtle

(2): BBmolla, quiet

quiet

(1): Mikul

BBmolla

(1): Lunar Martian

Not Voting

(1): Mr Turtle

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: December 27, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2020-12-27 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[quiet]

How do you think that scum!Quiet would have done things differently so far? what would Scum!Quiet's next steps be?

So far, scum quiet asks a million questions in the mafia only thread, has a less awkward opening post, and generally has more of a strategy. I think scum!Quiet is also not as overactive. Given that scum!Quiet has no previous games, I would be able to play sort of however I want, and would probably be talking a ton behind the scenes to figure out the best way not to screw up. Maybe I'm being arrogant, maybe I would have gotten caught out for something different, but I have a super hard time seeing a world where I ping like I'm doing an empathy play or whatever else Mikul thinks I'm up to day1.

Hard for me to speculate next steps. I'd have been focusing a lot more today on making sure my voting patterns/suses/etc looked correct for tomorrow; that's something that right now I havn't thought about whatsoever, but day2 I'm sure I'll be doing a lot of research on to try and determine what info we got from day1's votes and the flip.

Also, @ill, being fine with a Lunar vote is all good, but given that you havn't really updated that read at all since you started voting, I'd still be curious for your

1. updated reasons for why you think a Lunar vote is good
2. possible scum!Lunar partners.

[Illwei]

Lunar hasn't seemed to be trying that hard, and I understand that they're a new player so maybe I should be more lenient, but they haven't been doing anything really or updating us saying that they are busy/inexperienced/unsure.

[Illwei]

I'm getting a tad busy, so honeslty not hammering anything would be prefferable for me so that I can reread and post a bit more in the next few days

[quiet]

I'm getting a tad busy, so honeslty not hammering anything would be prefferable for me so that I can reread and post a bit more in the next few days

Sounds good to me. I'm excited to hear from Lunar + you over the next few days!

Mr. Turtle, where are you at w/ Lunar?

[BBmolla]

Lunar hasn't seemed to be trying that hard, and I understand that they're a new player so maybe I should be more lenient, but they haven't been doing anything really or updating us saying that they are busy/inexperienced/unsure.

they did, they said they're busy till Wednesday

so we're gonna twiddle our thumbs

[Illwei]

Otherwise i'll give my thoughts next day cycle which also works for me, unless you're the one who thinks something bad will happen off of Lunar's death.

Something i think is off about quiet, is they talk about their intent to hammer Lunar, but tag me in a way that makes me feel like they know Lunar is going to flip village, and are trying to push the blame off of them once the flip happens.

@peta what about me feels unnatural?

[Illwei]

they did, they said they're busy till Wednesday

Ah okay Did not see that coolio. Fine with me, as although these longer cycles feel so slow to me, it makes it a lot easier to juggle other things at the same time =P.

[quiet]

Something i think is off about quiet, is they talk about their intent to hammer Lunar, but tag me in a way that makes me feel like they know Lunar is going to flip village, and are trying to push the blame off of them once the flip happens.

I don't know if they're going to flip one way or the other. I read them scummy early, but they've been quiet. I just wanted to know where you were at before they got hammered. Me offering to hammer if you doubled down was a way to get you to sort yourself one way or the other. I want to know where you fall before the vote happens, I think it will help me sort you in the future. I've read you as town for most of today.

In short, it felt important to me to know your stance before the vote happened. I didn't expect/am still thinking about BB's decision to also intend to hammer.

[quiet]

I would like to state that I’m suspicious of Peta
I can try to elaborate but a Lunar flip would help me figure that out better anyway and I don’t want to elim PETA today

I want to hear more about this, but I'm fine with waiting for it. I can understand that a flip can provide info, but I'm not sure how Lunar's flip might provide info on Peta.

[petapan]

Otherwise i'll give my thoughts next day cycle which also works for me, unless you're the one who thinks something bad will happen off of Lunar's death.

Something i think is off about quiet, is they talk about their intent to hammer Lunar, but tag me in a way that makes me feel like they know Lunar is going to flip village, and are trying to push the blame off of them once the flip happens.

@peta what about me feels unnatural?

specifically the bit quiet quoted where with two different wagons you made a post that was to the effect of "it's...so tempting...to put it at E-1..."

[Illwei]

Sorry sorry I meant why about me seems unnatural?

[quiet]

In post 145, Illwei wrote:
Tbf, I was pretty tempted to vote on BBmola to put him at E-1, just...to see what would happen .

In post 368, Illwei wrote:
It's so tempting
to put him (Lunar) at E-1

I believe Peta is referring to these two interactions. I quoted them during my list of 3 reasons I had you as my strongest town read.

These two quotes were also why I was "kingmaking"/asking you to commit strongly to a read on Lunar:

Those interactions are also why I intend to hammer Lunar if Illwei doesn't unvote. I'm calling Illwei on their intent a bit.
@Illwei You placed your lunar vote first and have not changed your mind. I would like:
An updated reason why you think we should still elim Lunar today
Who you think likely partners are for scum Lunar

I almost got what I asked for? Somewhat?

[Mr Turtle]

Mr. Turtle, where are you at w/ Lunar?

A Lunar elimination seems fine to me. There are definitely worse elimination targets.

[Lunar Martian]

lunar, i was looking at your completed game, and i saw you were a day 1 elimination in that game, which is unfortunate, but what i was noticing is that you were a lot more forthcoming with your opinions in that game, where here it's been a struggle to get you to say much of anything. why is that?

Yeah I've been busy sorry. You'll notice I'm not posting anywhere on the site atm. I realize that sucks but I'll be back in a few days. Posting from my phone sucks. I'm sure I'll get more involved when I have more time. I don't really know how to defend myself because I'm not sure why people suspect me except that I'm quiet