Yellowstone

Noraa · Post Post #3750 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:13 am

Scum team is just :
Pig(mafia goon)
DGB(Ascetic goon)
Marky(Ascetic goon)

Jacko said something about some action going thru on DGB so DGB isn't ascetic. Ig its possible scum have a 1 shot RBer/Rolestopper or something like that?

Idk about the mech shit but ik DGB/Marky is the solve and there are no damn clears mech wise. It doesnt matter that town is underpowered. Scum might have some negative utility role or some shit.

You can't base everything on mech and there is no confirmed clear.

Noraa · Post Post #3751 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:13 am

*Marky(goon)

Noraa · Post Post #3752 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:14 am

In post 3749, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah the mason's instincts were on point, it was kind of a tinfoil but now that we have no other explanation for the missing kill n2 it has to be a gambit. If it's a gambit, scum needed to have control over the guilty for it to make sense.

yeah. it was a gambit and they wanted to guilty a townie. They wanted vax to die first and then the townie to die.

Noraa · Post Post #3753 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:15 am

In post 3752, Noraa wrote:
In post 3749, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah the mason's instincts were on point, it was kind of a tinfoil but now that we have no other explanation for the missing kill n2 it has to be a gambit. If it's a gambit, scum needed to have control over the guilty for it to make sense.
yeah. it was a gambit and they wanted to guilty a townie. They wanted vax to die first and then the townie to die.

DGB made it real clear with her Vax push even tho ya know she had a soft guilty on guillo but nah vax's claim is fake. lol wtf.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #3754 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:16 am

In post 3750, Noraa wrote:Rolestopper

This probably makes the most sense to dodge all the investigative power from town.

Noraa · Post Post #3755 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:16 am

Ok well now infinity and I are both voting DGB and if this hammers, great we got scum.

If it doesnt, either the scum team is infinity/noraa(cuz if I was scum or he was scum, our buddy would hammer and it'd be game over if DGB is town yeah?) or its marky/DGB. its really clear which one it is.

Noraa · Post Post #3756 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:17 am

In post 3755, Noraa wrote:If it doesnt, either the scum team is infinity/noraa(cuz if I was scum or he was scum, our buddy would hammer and it'd be game over if DGB is town yeah?) or its marky/DGB. its really clear which one it is.

I didnt explain this well but the logic does make sense if u think really hard about it lol.

Noraa · Post Post #3757 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:19 am

Ok I'll just explain it to the best of my ability.
If DGB is town, and two scum are on her, it won't hammer.
If DGB is town, and 1 town and 1 scum are on her, it will hammer the moment the scum buddy comes.
If DGB is scum, it won't hammer unless 3 town are on her.

So if DGB doesnt hammer, it either means both infinity an I are town(in which case scum team is DGB/Marky)
OR
both infinity and I are scum

Noraa · Post Post #3758 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:20 am

So lets just wait cuz this aint gonna hammer.

Noraa · Post Post #3759 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:21 am

And also pulling a gambit and specifically telling my partner not to hammer is stupid cuz the win is right here and I and Infinity im sure would take it if we were scum and the other town.

Noraa · Post Post #3760 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:21 am

If this doesnt hammer, the game state is narrowed down to two possibilities
Infinity/Noraa
DGB/Marky

Noraa · Post Post #3761 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:22 am

Infinity let out all your power and lets get a town win together!

Noraa · Post Post #3762 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:23 am

If town doesnt win, I'd like to say that Infinity and I won on our own by mind melding really hard at the very end and this will just be our personal win.
And we'll grab Mom as well.
If we lose this game (officially wise), I declare that Momrangal is town MVP and Infinity and I won together with her.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #3763 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:26 am

Mathblade too! Sorry masons for not listening to you earlier

Noraa · Post Post #3764 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:28 am

Math kept saying I was scum so I dont wanna give him credit :3
Ok fineeeeeeeeee

Noraa · Post Post #3765 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:29 am

In post 3754, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3750, Noraa wrote:Rolestopper
This probably makes the most sense to dodge all the investigative power from town.

I think if they have it, it might be a factional ability or a 1-2 shot type of thing.

Noraa · Post Post #3766 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:30 am

Honestly Rolestopper could fit into the flavor too. It could be like a factional ability called like "can of pepper spray"

idk something like that.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3767 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:39 am

In post 3748, Noraa wrote:This is what's happened this game:

Night 1:
Jacko killed toog
scum killed toog

Night 2:
Vax "killed" flea

scum no killed

Night 3
scum killed math

Night 4
scum killed mom

INCORRECT.

You guys N'killed Flea.

It's that simple.

And now you are trying to muddy the waters.

It won't work.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3768 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:39 am

In post 3734, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok so it's mark/DGB.

VOTE: DGB

Found Noraa's partner

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3769 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:44 am

I see both scum voting me right now.

Getting a little impatient aren't they?

Noraa · Post Post #3770 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:44 am

In post 3768, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3734, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok so it's mark/DGB.

VOTE: DGB
Found Noraa's partner

Go to ur scum pt to find ur partner.

Noraa · Post Post #3771 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:45 am

In post 3769, DrippingGoofball wrote:I see both scum voting me right now.

Getting a little impatient aren't they?

Lol hi scum!

Marky Mark · Post Post #3772 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:53 am

Well, that escalated quickly! (This is me not hammering btw to rule out some tinfoil me/infin or me/noraa scumteam)

Noraa · Post Post #3773 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:56 am

In post 3772, Marky Mark wrote:Well, that escalated quickly! (This is me not hammering btw to rule out some tinfoil me/infin or me/noraa scumteam)

its ok we know you dont want to hammer your scum buddy and that confirms you as the buddy.

Marky Mark · Post Post #3774 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:57 am

In post 3732, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3693, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 3677, Infinity 324 wrote:I haven't read up, I had a migraine today

@Mark: I don't think JV/DGB is possible because the setup wouldn't pass balance. Theoretically the other scum could be a roleblocker
So let's say DGB is scum here (as you seem to think). That would mean that they would have to have some unusual modifier or JV would be dead if telling the truth.

I can see arguments for a DGB/JV scumteam here (no kill N2 makes more sense if claimed RB is scum) or for Noraa (quickhammer d4) but I'm finding it hard to see DGB being scum here without JV. Who do you see as being a potential partner?

I was looking at some mini-normals to get an idea of how many PRs in a 13p is typical and consider this game with masons - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=83883 where there are 3 masons w/ a mason+, no other TPRs and multiple scum PRs. If that's balanced, then are you trying to tell me that 6 TPRs here is balanced?? As that is what we would have if DGB/JV are town.
You or noraa is the partner.

You keep talking about 6 TPRs, but one of those is a PGO, which is negative utility. One of those is a fruit vendor, which barely adds anything. One of those is DGB, who is scum. The masons and JV have all the power in the town. Yeah it's a decent amount of power but it's by no means super townsided.

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Ok yeah, that kinda makes sense. So, by that logic, DGB and JV both being scum would make town too weak as would be the masons, a negative PR and a semi-useless PR. It seems improbable that DGB just happens to have some funky modifier that would stop JV dying from visiting scum!them so I feel like their alignments are v likely bound up together